<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Did Our Post On ‘Morning After’ Photography Go Too Far?</title> <atom:link href="http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far</link> <description>Video Blog for Creative Professionals</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 12:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Arturo Paulino</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49248</link> <dc:creator>Arturo Paulino</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49248</guid> <description><![CDATA[I absolutely loved her piece and actually I thought of re-posting myself.  As you said, I read it I basically kept reading other feeds and moved on.  Thank you for giving us a chance to express our support for this post Lee! - arturo]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely loved her piece and actually I thought of re-posting myself.  As you said, I read it I basically kept reading other feeds and moved on.  Thank you for giving us a chance to express our support for this post Lee!<br /> - arturo</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Olivier Borgognon</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49233</link> <dc:creator>Olivier Borgognon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49233</guid> <description><![CDATA[Photographers are maybe focusing on their main work... photography, and a BTS, might be some kind of promo, but it&#039;s a big time/work/team investment. I think the contest of FStoppers made a huge bounce on the BTS, people were doing some because there was a prize... and it&#039;s a challenge. no pain, no gain... but no gain, why bother with pain... Even if you take a few hours to surf the net to find new BTS, it&#039;s rare, it&#039;s hard, and many are model focused and not BTS with the info and details focused. If FS would post that... the team would be taken down in fire for showing boobs or so... IMHO. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photographers are maybe focusing on their main work&#8230; photography, and a BTS, might be some kind of promo, but it&#8217;s a big time/work/team investment. </p><p>I think the contest of FStoppers made a huge bounce on the BTS, people were doing some because there was a prize&#8230; and it&#8217;s a challenge. no pain, no gain&#8230; but no gain, why bother with pain&#8230; </p><p>Even if you take a few hours to surf the net to find new BTS, it&#8217;s rare, it&#8217;s hard, and many are model focused and not BTS with the info and details focused. If FS would post that&#8230; the team would be taken down in fire for showing boobs or so&#8230; IMHO. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jr Miller</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49097</link> <dc:creator>Jr Miller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49097</guid> <description><![CDATA[Perhaps, though many BTS vids are not big budget. It&#039;s a matter of an interesting subject combined with a clear how-to that makes them attractive. Quality work always requires effort, but doesn&#039;t have to be expensive to do. They did it in the beginning  what&#039;s changed to make it harder?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, though many BTS vids are not big budget. It&#8217;s a matter of an interesting subject combined with a clear how-to that makes them attractive. Quality work always requires effort, but doesn&#8217;t have to be expensive to do. They did it in the beginning  what&#8217;s changed to make it harder?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chanes2</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49008</link> <dc:creator>Chanes2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49008</guid> <description><![CDATA[To be honest with you I didn&#039;t comment the post but : I really was surpised by this one. For me, it was one of the best. Definitly! Keep doing this! As told Richard few comments ago, I didn&#039;t even try to enter in the debate  when I saw the comments. The experience I had in the past shows that trying to debate on internet is a waste of time. Nobody change his mind. Most of the time it even reinforce their points of view... so I just let them speak without a care...Anyway keep doing FStoppers team! I love your job!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest with you I didn&#8217;t comment the post but : I really was surpised by this one. For me, it was one of the best. Definitly! Keep doing this! </p><p>As told Richard few comments ago, I didn&#8217;t even try to enter in the debate  when I saw the comments. The experience I had in the past shows that trying to debate on internet is a waste of time. Nobody change his mind. Most of the time it even reinforce their points of view&#8230; so I just let them speak without a care&#8230;</p><p>Anyway keep doing FStoppers team! I love your job!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Olivier Borgognon</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49005</link> <dc:creator>Olivier Borgognon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:07:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49005</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just amazed with the manners and how rude some people are towards the team of Fstoppers (or many others). Should I say education starts at home without being disrespectful ?Questions:  - Would you write to a newspaper to tell them you don&#039;t like their articles as a reader ?  - Would you complain in a superstore because some of their products are not to your liking ? (I.e : a vegetarian or vegan complaining that the store sells meat, or fish etc.) - Would you enter a sex shop if you are not a consumer, to tell them your thoughts and be rude to them ?  - Would you criticize a restaurant for their menu ? So... why would you criticize Fstoppers for their content ? If you don&#039;t like it, just pass your way, or take what is good for you and leave the rest no ? Please, to all you moaners and ranters, pay the team their due respect for everything they do for us. Close your eyes 1 minute, review all you have read and seen on Fstoppers, value it in terms of what it would have cost you to learn that knowledge if you had to take classes, or use your precious time to find it all and then... ...Go for the paradigm shift and be grateful, it&#039;s all here, it&#039;s a given, for free, a community based not on financial terms, paying for it, but on knowledge and appreciation of what we all like, arts, photography, technique, discovery, culture... a bit of it all. Thank you FSTOPPERS, and thank you to all of you contributors, for your time, hard work, education, will to share... you are all working really hard for us here, on top of your jobs and family lives, taking some of your precious time away from your loved ones for the sake of a bunch of unappreciative, selfish, never content moaners... and the others :)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just amazed with the manners and how rude some people are towards the team of Fstoppers (or many others). Should I say education starts at home without being disrespectful ?</p><p>Questions: <br /> - Would you write to a newspaper to tell them you don&#8217;t like their articles as a reader ? <br /> - Would you complain in a superstore because some of their products are not to your liking ? (I.e : a vegetarian or vegan complaining that the store sells meat, or fish etc.)<br /> - Would you enter a sex shop if you are not a consumer, to tell them your thoughts and be rude to them ? <br /> - Would you criticize a restaurant for their menu ? </p><p>So&#8230; why would you criticize Fstoppers for their content ? If you don&#8217;t like it, just pass your way, or take what is good for you and leave the rest no ? Please, to all you moaners and ranters, pay the team their due respect for everything they do for us. </p><p>Close your eyes 1 minute, review all you have read and seen on Fstoppers, value it in terms of what it would have cost you to learn that knowledge if you had to take classes, or use your precious time to find it all and then&#8230; </p><p>&#8230;Go for the paradigm shift and be grateful, it&#8217;s all here, it&#8217;s a given, for free, a community based not on financial terms, paying for it, but on knowledge and appreciation of what we all like, arts, photography, technique, discovery, culture&#8230; a bit of it all. </p><p>Thank you FSTOPPERS, and thank you to all of you contributors, for your time, hard work, education, will to share&#8230; you are all working really hard for us here, on top of your jobs and family lives, taking some of your precious time away from your loved ones for the sake of a bunch of unappreciative, selfish, never content moaners&#8230; and the others :)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Olivier Borgognon</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-49003</link> <dc:creator>Olivier Borgognon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:56:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-49003</guid> <description><![CDATA[I think the change might be that the BTS are not all of Fstoppers, and people, photographers etc, might not have the resources, business, capacity etc. to do as many BTS, refocusing on the core business. Thus, less to be shown and the guys are working hard on feeding us with something and I do believe the quest for them is getting much harder than before. what do you think ? ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the change might be that the BTS are not all of Fstoppers, and people, photographers etc, might not have the resources, business, capacity etc. to do as many BTS, refocusing on the core business. Thus, less to be shown and the guys are working hard on feeding us with something and I do believe the quest for them is getting much harder than before. what do you think ? </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Melanson</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-48992</link> <dc:creator>Richard Melanson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-48992</guid> <description><![CDATA[Good idea with the poll.  As you can see (overwhelmingly), the majority of readers are likely level-headed adults that have more productive things to do than pick internet fights.  I&#039;m rarely ever compelled to comment on something I disagree with, because I don&#039;t see the point, and feel like it is a waste of time (and I honestly don&#039;t think I&#039;m going to change anyone&#039;s mind on the internet). Things that inspire me, drive me, and make me think  - those are the things I DO feel compelled to comment on, regardless of the context.  Why?  Because THAT&#039;S THE CONTENT I WANT MORE OF.  I want to let the creator know I enjoyed it, and that their hard work did not go unnoticed.I&#039;m all for civil discourse (when it is civil), but get a grip people.Keep up the good work guys...]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea with the poll.  As you can see (overwhelmingly), the majority of readers are likely level-headed adults that have more productive things to do than pick internet fights.  I&#8217;m rarely ever compelled to comment on something I disagree with, because I don&#8217;t see the point, and feel like it is a waste of time (and I honestly don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to change anyone&#8217;s mind on the internet). </p><p>Things that inspire me, drive me, and make me think  &#8211; those are the things I DO feel compelled to comment on, regardless of the context.  Why?  Because THAT&#8217;S THE CONTENT I WANT MORE OF.  I want to let the creator know I enjoyed it, and that their hard work did not go unnoticed.</p><p>I&#8217;m all for civil discourse (when it is civil), but get a grip people.</p><p>Keep up the good work guys&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian Lynch</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-48961</link> <dc:creator>Brian Lynch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-48961</guid> <description><![CDATA[It honestly makes me sick to read the comments on here sometimes.Regardless of whether you agree with her opinion or not, respect the writer and argue your point like an educated adult -- which the majority of these people are. Being on the internet doesn&#039;t mean you get free reign to be a complete moron. Lauren (I assume) spent a great deal of time writing that article and I think she did a good job.In short: People need to grow up. She wrote an article. You disagree. Life sucks. FS is not a news organization, they don&#039;t claim or need to report straight facts all the time. You wouldn&#039;t visit here if they did. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It honestly makes me sick to read the comments on here sometimes.</p><p>Regardless of whether you agree with her opinion or not, respect the writer and argue your point like an educated adult &#8212; which the majority of these people are. Being on the internet doesn&#8217;t mean you get free reign to be a complete moron. Lauren (I assume) spent a great deal of time writing that article and I think she did a good job.</p><p>In short: People need to grow up. She wrote an article. You disagree. Life sucks. FS is not a news organization, they don&#8217;t claim or need to report straight facts all the time. You wouldn&#8217;t visit here if they did.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason Born</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-48915</link> <dc:creator>Jason Born</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-48915</guid> <description><![CDATA[I also agree with amanduca. As the polling is showing so far, few are opposed to opinion pieces on Fstoppers. Many readers are sympathetic with the author&#039;s position. But I am not that suprised that the tone used by Lauren drew out the trolls. Starting with the title &quot;... absurd&quot;, other select gems just within the first paragraph &quot;needs to die&quot; , &quot;and to me it is narcissistic, unnecessary, and absurd.&quot; I suspect this was done for effect, not deliberate malice.  But really, while not directed at a specific individual by name, how is this type of attack language any different than what folks put in the comments? If I were a provider or aficionado of this type of photography, how do I not interpret the start of the article as a personal attack on my beliefs?  Lee – The key question here is not ‘should we do OpEd’ – the polling is clear, go for it.  The question to you is, “what is your OpEd standards?”.   Do you want a free-for-all, use any language you want, no-logic-required type of ‘rant’ or do you want to keep the standards more similar to a newpaper, where the OpEd expresses an opinion, but still maintains some standards of decorum and purpose and, dare we say, logic. Suppose Lauren had written the article as: Title: “Does ‘day after’ boudoir photography make sense?  For me, no.”First paragraph: There is a growing trend…it is this… -Think of all the things that can go wrong here (it goes on Facebook, do we want the kids to see it… do our customers realize that at least some folks are going to find this offensive?)Have we as photographers thought through all the implications here?-What does it mean to have this work mixed into your portfolio?-Do we have a duty to protect our customers from themselves or is anything goes, ring that register, the rule? I bet you that such an article would have started a healthier discussion.  And is more fitting with the community you have created at Fstoppers. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with amanduca. As the polling is showing so far,<br /> few are opposed to opinion pieces on Fstoppers. Many readers are sympathetic<br /> with the author&#8217;s position. But I am not that suprised that the tone used by<br /> Lauren drew out the trolls.</p><p> </p><p>Starting with the title &#8220;&#8230; absurd&#8221;, other select<br /> gems just within the first paragraph &#8220;needs to die&#8221; , &#8220;and to me it is narcissistic, unnecessary, and absurd.&#8221;</p><p> </p><p>I<br /> suspect this was done for effect, not deliberate malice.  But really, while not directed at a specific<br /> individual by name, how is this type of attack language any different than what<br /> folks put in the comments? If I were a provider or aficionado of this<br /> type of photography, how do I not interpret the start of the article as a<br /> personal attack on my beliefs? </p><p> </p><p>Lee – The key question here is not ‘should we do OpEd’ – the<br /> polling is clear, go for it.  The<br /> question to you is, “what is your OpEd standards?”.   Do you want a free-for-all, use any language<br /> you want, no-logic-required type of ‘rant’ or do you want to keep the standards<br /> more similar to a newpaper, where the OpEd expresses an opinion, but still<br /> maintains some standards of decorum and purpose and, dare we say, logic.</p><p> </p><p>Suppose Lauren had written the article as:</p><p> </p><p>Title: “Does ‘day after’ boudoir photography make<br /> sense?  For me, no.”</p><p>First paragraph:</p><p> </p><p>There is a growing trend…it is this… -Think of all the<br /> things that can go wrong here (it goes on Facebook, do we want the kids to see<br /> it… do our customers realize that at least some folks are going to find this<br /> offensive?)</p><p>Have we as photographers thought through all the<br /> implications here?</p><p>-What does it mean to have this work mixed into your portfolio?</p><p>-Do we have a duty to protect our customers from themselves<br /> or is anything goes, ring that register, the rule?</p><p> </p><p>I bet you that such an article would have started a<br /> healthier discussion.  And is more<br /> fitting with the community you have created at Fstoppers.</p><p> </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim Krueger</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/did-our-post-on-morning-after-photography-go-too-far/comment-page-2#comment-48904</link> <dc:creator>Tim Krueger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=48531#comment-48904</guid> <description><![CDATA[ well said ithacermike! ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> well said ithacermike!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>