New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

Most of us would agree that it is quite exciting when the UPS Truck pulls up with some new gear that we purchased especially when it's a new camera body or lens. Like kids on Christmas morning we can't wait to unbox the new toy and put it to test. Sadly one photographer opened the box not to find a new camera body but floor laminate. Read on to learn about his experience, see photos and find out which nationally known dealer did this not just once, but twice to him. 

As a long time buyer and preferred member of Dell.com, Jalal of JZPhotography, was excited to learn that they would be willing to lower their price on a new Canon 5D Mark III to just about match the same prices he was finding online. He placed his order over the phone with Dell customer service and was shipped what he thought would be a new Canon 5D Mark III with the 24-105mm f4 IS lens. A huge upgrade from his current 30D camera and one that he was extremely excited about. Fortunately, Jaleel documented the unboxing and took pictures of his whole experience with his iPhone 5 which later turned into great evidence to show what he received instead of the new camera he expected.


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The following is the experience told by Jalal himself.

“I wanted to share you with my purchase experience with Dell.com.I was in the market for a new camera. I’ve been shooting with a Canon EOS 30D for 6 years, and I’m looking to get more serious with my photography and wanted to invest in something I could love for at least another 6 years. After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.

I have been a Dell customer for 11 years and have a Dell Preferred Account which is a line of credit. On January 4th, 2013, I called up Dell Customer Service to see if they would price match their 5D3 kit with other online retailers, Best Buy, B&H, and Amazon. They only could bring the price down by $200, but given that I wanted/needed the camera, I told them ok, and had them order it for me. Dell’s customer care team is completely based out of India.

January 8th comes around, the package arrives and I’m overly excited – it finally feels like Christmas. I’ve made it a habit of taking photos as I unbox large purchases because you never know what you’re going to find. But also because I’m a giant geek. Everything is packaged perfectly and looks great. I cut open the shipping box, pull out the camera box and start to unbox it…. what do I find? Wood flooring. Perfectly cut and glued together to fit the compartments of the box. No camera, not accessories, no booklets, nothing. Wood mother effin flooring! I was dejected. I went from a super high to a super low in a matter of seconds. There was definite humor in this. Quite frankly I was floored. Badoom pish!

I called up Dell customer care immediately but the department I needed to speak to was closed. The next morning, Wednesday, January 9th, I call up Dell and explained my situation. They tried to tell me Dell wasn’t to blame because they didn’t ship the item themselves. It was their distributors fault. I pointed out to Dell’s customer care that I purchased my product from Dell.com and they were the company that fulfilled my order. I wasn’t talking to their 3rd party distributor. After expressing my frustration they agreed to send me out a replacement. They wanted to make me wait a few days but I requested they should ship it next day air. I was dealing with a particular customer care representative that was to be my main point of contact. She said to give them 6 hours to get back to me which is around 4pm that afternoon. So I agreed. In that time I send 3 emails to my case manager and called her direct line several times to see if I could get updates on the situation – she was unavailable. 4pm came around and no one contacted me. I called up and spoke to a different rep who told me my order was in fact shipping overnight and he continued to give me my new order number and tracking info.

After hanging up I checked the tracking number on the FedEx website and it seems they submitted my new camera at 9am that morning! Six hours later after I hung up with Dell I received an email from my case manager with the exact information I received over the phone by someone else.

The morning of Thursday January 10th, I received a new replacement package via FedEx Priority Overnight. I opened it up, WOOD FLOORING AGAIN!!!


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At this point I knew that their distribution center’s stock of Canon EOS 5D Mark III kits was compromised and the thieves probably cleaned house. I noticed both Canon boxes had clear circular stickers placed on the box flap, and after consulting with the members of an online Canon forum (which I was a member of) they indicated that Canon never uses stickers to seal their boxes and that it sometimes was done by the vendor.

I contacted Dell’s customer service once again, explained my situation and was told at this point since I received a replacement order and received wood again they would have to investigate this situation with their Fraud and Logistics teams. They would also contact and inform their Distributor. I expressed my extreme frustration and disappointment about receiving another piece of wood instead of my Canon 5D MKIII kit and the ongoing terrible customer service. Again, they tried to say it wasn’t Dell’s fault instead it was their distribution company that was to blame. Again I repeated it was a Dell transaction and they were responsible for everything. They couldn’t push it off on someone else. Their inability to keep tabs on their distributors was not my problem at the least. The shipping labels have all said DELL on them. Not XYZ.

Judging by the box, it looks like my camera was shipped from D&H Distributing Co.
D&H Distributing Co, 909 Katie Court, Harrisburg, PA, (717) 561-4313 - www.dandh.com.

Doing some research on the web brought up issues they have had with items shipped for other distributors. However the distributor in question wasn’t too blame. Fishy at best.
Friday rolls around and I contacted Dell again. Customer care told me they needed more time and they would contact me when they heard back from their various departments about the issue. I again explained my frustration with them. I began to explain some previous examples of my experience with them – I was promised a call on Monday 1/7 and didn’t receive a call. They also told me they’ll call the next day. I didn’t happen.

I got a call on Tuesday the 15th January and was told Dell had not heard back from their fraud team and their logistics team found nothing wrong. Further to this the distributor returned their email simply acknowledging the receipt of the news. Nothing more. They said they could try and send me another camera but they couldn’t be 100% sure that I wouldn’t receive wood again. I asked them about the compensation and they said the most they could try to give me was a $100 coupon toward a future Dell.com purchase. I refused and told them I considered it an insult and a slap in the face. Especially with all the time and the frustration that I had to deal with. I asked to speak to someone higher up about the issue. I was extremely upset with this whole situation and what they were offering me. Some have said that I should be lucky to have even received that. I’d say that some don’t have very high standards and are easily toyed with.

It’s now Wednesday January 16th and I just got off the phone with a higher-up manager from Dell customer care. The absolute best they could offer me was $100 coupon towards a future purchase and that was the most they have ever offered customer. He asked me if he wanted Dell to send me the order and I promptly asked him to cancel my order. I will never be ordering or dealing with Dell again. After 11 years, my relationship with them as a consumer is over. I will make sure to spread this word and make sure that everyone knows what I have experienced.” – Jalal

[Via F Stop Lounge]

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dell has stores?

I purchase my gear from B&H... they are fantastic and have never screwed me over.

If he is the "geek" he claims to be wouldn't he shoot video to capture the "geeky moment"? I guess the iPhone 5 doesn't do video? Could very well be a true story but as my mother used to say, "Something doesn't smell right in Denmark".

i had purchased computer from dell for my sons graphics course 3 yrs display died bad chips from nvidia not dells fault they said they continued to sell same boards for years not their fault B.S. over priced cheap crap never ever will i buy anything from dell

Lets not underestimate the wood he was sent, it obviously was very expensive flooring possibly form a old home that could be worth some money.  

Coco Bolo, Mahogany, maybe Bamboo....Might be his lucky day!  Just kidding, it sucks!

This dude is the proud owner of two 5d MKiii's and is trying to get them to refund him his money. Who's the scammer?

Wow, what a great way to get a back-up body!!!  I smell a FISH!

This is an incredibly important point you've raised and I'm surprise nobody else has pointed it out. This is nothing but hearsay at the moment, and judging by the more recent comments, some are starting to think this is pretty fishy. 

There are too many examples of someone posting an unsubstantiated complaint about a business, and rousing up a internet lynch mob, only for it to be found out later it was all lies. 

There's a pretty notorious thread on reddit where a guy blamed a computer games company for damaging his vehicle, the PR lady who handled the incident for the company got death and rape threats to her cell phone, and later it came out the guy was lying all along in an elaborate insurance fraud. 

Fstoppers is a great blog, but try and have a bit of journalist integrity, you're doing yourself no favours by publishing unsubstantiated, quite suspicious claims. You guys are better than this.

I'm a long time customer of Dell.  Bought bodies and lenses from them back in the day when they would sell Canon gear for crazy low prices.  They always took care of me.  Then I ordered a 5D III from them, same as always.  A day after it ships I get a call from some gal in India saying she needed to talk to me about my order.  I don't call her back.  Why should I?  I talked to their verification dept after placing the order.  I talked to my cc company too.  Everyone talked to everyone.  Charge has gone through.  Item has shipped.  Everything is good.  Long story short, this person recalls my package and I never get the camera.  I eventually got a refund though they wouldn't process it until they received the camera back.  Never again, Dell.

Having said that, this guy shouldn't be complaining when Dell has basically taken his word for it and, for all they know, he's walked away with two new 5D III's.  It's completely plausible that he received wood in the box.  It's also completely plausible that he didn't.  If I were Dell I'd be watching his ebay account.

WOW... way to go DELL... idiots!  That is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!  What an insult and HORRIBLE business practice!

WOW... way to go DELL... idiots!  That is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!  What an insult and HORRIBLE business practice!

What I'm puzzled about is:

Why did you order your Canon camera through Dell? You may be a Dell Preferred Customer, but Dell is not your concierge.

Buy your stuff through the proper channels please, else don't blame them if they just get fed up and decides to screw you over.

Not once, but twice.

Boy, you must be such a pain in the ass to them for Dell to do such a thing.

I'm astounded at the number of people here, not just yourself, that ignored the whole section about being a Dell preferred customer, with a Dell line of credit. Why buy on a credit card and pay their interest rates, when Dell's credit terms are better for products bought directly from them?
Dell are Canon and Nikon authorised distributors. It's no different than buying from Amazon, on an Amazon credit card - other than the actual distribution centre the final item is shipped from (but not always since Amazon warehouse products for hundreds of companies).I see no fault of Dell here, other than maybe customer service reps that didn't fall over and do everything exactly as this guy demanded.Their fraud department is investigating, how a downchain partner (D&H distributing in this case) can have boxes of wood flooring in their warehouse in place of cameras. Supply chain investigations are not normally completed in just a few days - it takes that long to just accumulate all the relevant paperwork / signatures for every step in the supply chain of these items. That's before you go into any CCTV footage from the warehouse for the period where it is believed these boxes were sitting there.

On-line checks for images posted by cameras with the serial numbers for the missing cameras are also done. Yes this is easy to get around if you know the camera is stolen, but if the guys that stole them from the warehouse (a theory) have sold them to someone else, they are not likely to bother stripping all that data from anything they post on-line and those people become an avenue for investigation.

I wouldn't expect much of a comment from Dell, other than "This matter is being investigated", since any internal investigation is likely to be handed over to law enforcement at some point.

Nice scam dude... He got 2 free 5D MK IIIs. It's very easy to open the box from the bottom replace the items then flip the box over and make it look like its an unopened box, I feel like calling the police on this guy.. I think at $4k a pop times 2 we are talking felony and jail time.

I don't buy this story for a second. I want to see the EXIF from those original photos to find out when exactly those were taken. And why would someone document an "unboxing" with bad stills instead of video, unless the pictures would need to "prove" something later. 

And all the fuzz so he can shoot mediocre images of pimped cars.  

Everyone Just retweet this story and add @Dell I will

Notice the crappy WB in the first shipment, and the perfect WB in the second. :P

Has anyone noticed  in the second delivery shots the guy still has the 5d box in the background from the first delivery yet it appears to be photographed on a bed or a sofa!! And I agree with others why on earth would you carefully photograph the knife cutting the tape! I can only guess he has a nice laminate floor in the other room!

It's funny as you read all these comments how quickly everyone believes he is ripping Dell off yet you all have convinced me to second guess this story now lol

OMG!!! your so right!!! @David Leyland

still better than a nikon :D 

you could always make a wood laminate pin-hole camera, and I bet it wouldn't have green cast!

poor you... then you don't have an idea what brand the pros preferred...

Major purchases should always be made in person I think. This article is a perfect example of WHY.

Complete rubbish there is no way it could happen twice to the same person, he's at it, why take photos of every step of opening the boxes? when he could have set video up on a tripod and done it that way, it's clearly a load of rubbish and if you think this guy is being genuine then well shame on you.

I hope they investigate him.

Hope you got your money back ok. A few years ago I bought a 5D II with the 24-105 from an eBay private seller (with decent feedback on high value items) and a few days later I received a big box with something rattling about inside. My first thought was that he had just put the camera box inside another box without any padding, but when I opened it I was shocked to find that it was in fact a sack of...potatoes! £2400 for a 2.5 kilos of potatoes!

The seller denied any knowledge but thankfully eBay refunded me the full amount...

2.5 kg = 10 lbs. Pretty heavy fro a 5D

2.5 kg= ~5lbs.... just sayin...

I am a bit perplexed! Is this perhaps an attempt at a joke or was the weight of the potatoes I received really what you thought was the most interesting part of my story? :-) Btw, they were Maris Piper potatoes if that makes any difference!

Seriously! FStoppers is a site I respect and get some of my photography news from. Please don't post incredible stories unless you can prove these as fact.

Yes, they make for sensationalist headlines and attracts more users to your site, but don't stoop to these levels to get more hits. You guys are better than that.

Best bet is stick to your local camera store if possible... I do

 and pay 30%+ more. No thanks, I'd rather risk a box of floor tiles!

When will Canon and Nikon get real and add iPhone type tracker to body's,it would be a real bonus to owners if they could track their stolen gear,Leica have added GPS receivers to the new S,if they added transmitters then it would be a brilliant solution.. 

jalaaaal. jackaaaal. defamation, calumny is free.
+1 @David Leyland

He may got his packages from a anonymus storage somewhere in Asia, and then it would be unlikely to recive woodflooring twice, I agree. But it is also possible, that, as he was ordering from what is not exactly a camera distrubitor, he got this packages from somewhere, anywhere, in the US. Could be some small retail store. How could anyone proof that these cameras disappeared there, and not at UPS or somewhere else? More likely, a big company like Dell compensates the order in the end, without further investigation. Golden opportunity for some, right? I don´t really know who to belive.

If you look at the tape on the box in the first picture, then look at the tape in the picture where the guy is opening it wit the knife, half the tape is already torn off?

Not saying the guy is lying but you'd think there would be loads of other people coming forward with similar stories to back this up.

Where is the distribution center in relation to the guy, does he know some one that works there who's in on it with him? I dunno, he's either very unlucky or is trying to score a couple of free cameras.

I wonder if theres anyway of getting the serial codes of the phantom cameras then doing a search online for photo's with that serial number in the EXIF data?

Another reason not to buy from Dell, in case this isn't enough to stop people:  http://elektronista.dk/kommentar/dresscode-blue-tie-and-male/

can't belive this story..

Bugger... I ordered a box of floor tiles and got this big u ugly camera instead. Eos 5 or something it was called...

Would love to see the EXIF data on these photos. Alas, it's not there.

Agreed: this looks fishy. It's written like an essay rather than out of pure frustration. There is a lot of details and even jokes (I was floored!? really... and words like: I knew their warehouse was compromised). I dunno. What about this other forum he refers to about new bodies shipping with round stickers or not? And what about an imminent future purchase of a 5DMKIII as it is cheaper elsewhere, and he mentioned he "needed" it. Stay tuned FStoppers investigation team :-)

jaw dropping appalling 

If he is indeed telling the truth, I'd say there will be many more people coming forward. Not saying he isn't lying or trying to score, but what if he is merely the first person to receive his shipment? 

"After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens."

Should have bought it at the store then instead of buying from Dell!  Using the local camera store to first vet the camera of choice and then buying off the web is crappy treatment of your local store(s) and their personnel.  You're a time waster, so you had your time wasted.  Seems fair enough to me.

The part that bothers me the most is that they have such terrible customer service.  I always dread calling an online retailer when the need arises because so often now-a-days, companies would rather give customers the run around and otherwise deflect them than give them the service they deserve. It looks like Dell is no different. I won't be buying from Dell now.

In contrast, I have had the best customer service you could imagine from B&H Photo.  I recommend purchasing from them.  I have spent thousands of dollars with them over the past few years and never had a problem.  I've done a fair bit of returning and/or exchanging too.  I was unlucky enough once to discover a manufacturer defect in a brand new printer model and had to learn by exchanging it several times and calling the OEM tech dept. to help troubleshoot when the same problem presented.  B&H never asked questions or argued, they just kept accepting the return and sending out replacements. I'll never deal with anyone else becuase they have earned my business. Go to B&H!

I have a sneaking suspicion something will come out in the wash about this being a hoax. I rather hope it is, for both Jalal and Dell's sake. To document the opening of the boxes every step of the way in photos - claiming to do this every time a big purchase is a made - is almost divulging "too much" info explaining the one aspect of this whole story that would be suspect to most people reading it. There's no telling if these boxes weren't stuffed and packaged by this fellow. And for Dell to only offer a $100 voucher instead of refunding the purchase in full? That really doesn't make any sense. Things just aren't adding up.

Looks like D&H's CEOs were in the shipping house around that time! 
http://www.cepro.com/article/dh_co_presidents_get_their_hands_dirty/

It's a scam. Dell is right to only offer $100 because they know the story is impossible.

Perhaps buying local would have been a far better idea.  Most local stores will at least budge on online prices (if not a full on match) and you wouldn't have wasted all this time trying to get it right.  

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