Comments on: Man Records a First Person POV of Plane Crash

By: Kevin Stiller

Kevin Stiller — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:13:00 +0000

Photography and VIdeography isn’t always about having a beautiful image or fancy lighting set up

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:10:00 +0000

We can make judgments, because there are procedures he was supposed to follow and the NTSB will indeed make similar judgments after the investigation. It is good everyone got out alive, but I believe from what IS shown in the video that he had other options besides running the plane into the ground. Based on what is shown in the video.

I have had similar experiences and had I not taken action to avoid a forced landing, everyone on-board would be dead.

I fly out of Boulder City, NV 61B and as you can see at the END of this video

http://youtu.be/ARCrVePsVag

just as I am on Left Base, there are about 300 108 foot tall High Voltage Towers with intersecting High Power Cables between them which makes a forced landing on approach to Runway 27L virtually unsurvivable once you have committed to the TPA.

The words “FRIED” and “TOAST” are usually mumbled by passengers when I turn final.

As is part of every pilot’s responsibilities, during the flight one must constantly be selecting possible landing options should the engine fail, right here, right now.

I have found myself talking to myself out loud, “Could I make it over there? Is that free of poles and wires?” even when there is no condition of concern. I was taught to do that, not everyone was.

People ask me, “Are you having as much fun as we are?” my answer is, “No! I am busy trying to keep us all alive, every moment we are in the air. My ENJOYMENT comes in knowing YOU had a good time!”

But that’s just my view…

By: Mark Bianco

Mark Bianco — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:31:00 +0000

You have a baby on the plane, tend to the baby and your wife. IDIOT.
still after landing wants to film, your baby, check your baby. MORON.

By: Sean Behm

Sean Behm — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:09:00 +0000

Yup. He was in the right place at the right time to capture something that not many people get to survive. Luckily my dad survived a plan crash WAYY worse than this. I will definitely NOT be showing this video to my dad.

By: Roger Harman

Roger Harman — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:22:00 +0000

I didn’t hear him attempt a restart, but maybe that happened before the video started? I would guess that was the case. I also thought about the roads but wasn’t sure about any roadsigns or lamposts… It’s all very well, making a judgement on a video of an event that’s life threatening… We all have the benefit of hindsight, something the pilot wasn’t afforded. I just hope that no-one on here finds themselves in a similar situation. A friend of mine had an engine seize in his Bulldog on take-off, even after pre-flight checks… Fortunately he had gained just enough height to make a circuit and land back on the runway.
To summarize: everyone got out pretty much unscathed – Good job, to my mind. You do what you can to survive… Many don’t make it unfortunately.

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:25:00 +0000

Burt, he had way too much altitude and opportunity to clear the carbs, there should not have been a forced landing at all. The plane is designed to clear the carbs, I’ve done it, adding C-Heat and leaning should have been the first thing he did. If the engine died, C-Heat and allow it to thaw, then lean and attempt a restart and yes… lots of roads to choose from, unknown deep snow with fixed gear would have been my second choice. Glad everyone lived… his piloting skills need to be reevaluated before he can fly again.

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:22:00 +0000

I have seen this video, have not read the details about it, but it looks like the typical overloaded plane attempting to take off with a Density Altitude too high for the plane to actually fly. The only reason it flew as far as it did was because he was in GROUND EFFECT, once he climbed out of ground effect, the plane no longer wanted to fly with that much weight on a hot day. Either that, again, not having read the details… either it was Density Altitude or one thing I noticed is the engine did not seem to be at an RPM that would indicate full power on the take off. It just did not sound like he had the throttle wide open to me… as he should have until he reached TPA. Weird watching that one! I suspect Density Altitude miss or no calculation, but that engine sound is disturbingly quiet.

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:14:00 +0000

The pilot did a lousy job! With all the altitude he had, he only had to move a lever to apply carburetor heat, if the engine was running at all, he would have to lean the fuel mixture. If the engine had stopped, he had so much altitude he had plenty of time to initiate a restart once the ice had melted, leaning the fuel allows the fuel to ignite and there were in my opinion from what I saw, other options for a safer landing other than a field of snow with an unknown depth, especially with a fixed gear plane which is without question going to get hung up in the snow and flip. BEST BET IN VEGAS! I saw roads everywhere, surely one of them had to be free of power lines and poles.

He did get everyone home alive and as we are taught, any landing everyone walks away from is a good landing, but that is not saying this pilot acted responsibly, he clearly did not.

He did not have to crash in the first place. He is required by FAR to ensure all control functions on that plane are operable before taking off, including checking to make sure the carb heat works.

I’ve iced carbs, the fix is easy and does not require a forced landing unless someone is not doing what they should do.

Glad they are alive! Hope he is not allowed to fly again at the very least until he has had a major and lengthy review of emergency procedures.

PPSEL 37 Years.

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:06:00 +0000

Exactly Dan! Something is wrong here, this was a simple fix that did not have to end in a crash. Even in his PRE-FLIGHT he is required to make sure he has carb heat. Irresponsible pilot!

By: Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN

Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:04:00 +0000

I saw many safer landing zones he could have chosen, unless he saw powerlines or obstacles I did not see, there were many roads he could have landed on, but… as Bert said, he had not planned on landing on snow, he was sure he would land on a runway, but he clearly did not have enough experience to know, all he had to do was to apply carburetor heat and begin leaning the engine and with the high altitude he had, he surely could have corrected the carburetor icing without any major issues. A senseless crash! It did not have to happen.