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              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              January 17, 2013
              Trevor Dayley

              New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              Most of us would agree that it is quite exciting when the UPS Truck pulls up with some new gear that we purchased especially when it’s a new camera body or lens. Like kids on Christmas morning we can’t wait to unbox the new toy and put it to test. Sadly one photographer opened the box not to find a new camera body but floor laminate. Read on to learn about his experience, see photos and find out which nationally known dealer did this not just once, but twice to him. 

              As a long time buyer and preferred member of Dell.com, Jalal of JZPhotography, was excited to learn that they would be willing to lower their price on a new Canon 5D Mark III to just about match the same prices he was finding online. He placed his order over the phone with Dell customer service and was shipped what he thought would be a new Canon 5D Mark III with the 24-105mm f4 IS lens. A huge upgrade from his current 30D camera and one that he was extremely excited about. Fortunately, Jaleel documented the unboxing and took pictures of his whole experience with his iPhone 5 which later turned into great evidence to show what he received instead of the new camera he expected.


              Fstoppers Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 1 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 2 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 3 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 4 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 5 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 6 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 7 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 8 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              The following is the experience told by Jalal himself.

              “I wanted to share you with my purchase experience with Dell.com.I was in the market for a new camera. I’ve been shooting with a Canon EOS 30D for 6 years, and I’m looking to get more serious with my photography and wanted to invest in something I could love for at least another 6 years. After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.

              I have been a Dell customer for 11 years and have a Dell Preferred Account which is a line of credit. On January 4th, 2013, I called up Dell Customer Service to see if they would price match their 5D3 kit with other online retailers, Best Buy, B&H, and Amazon. They only could bring the price down by $200, but given that I wanted/needed the camera, I told them ok, and had them order it for me. Dell’s customer care team is completely based out of India.

              January 8th comes around, the package arrives and I’m overly excited – it finally feels like Christmas. I’ve made it a habit of taking photos as I unbox large purchases because you never know what you’re going to find. But also because I’m a giant geek. Everything is packaged perfectly and looks great. I cut open the shipping box, pull out the camera box and start to unbox it…. what do I find? Wood flooring. Perfectly cut and glued together to fit the compartments of the box. No camera, not accessories, no booklets, nothing. Wood mother effin flooring! I was dejected. I went from a super high to a super low in a matter of seconds. There was definite humor in this. Quite frankly I was floored. Badoom pish!

              I called up Dell customer care immediately but the department I needed to speak to was closed. The next morning, Wednesday, January 9th, I call up Dell and explained my situation. They tried to tell me Dell wasn’t to blame because they didn’t ship the item themselves. It was their distributors fault. I pointed out to Dell’s customer care that I purchased my product from Dell.com and they were the company that fulfilled my order. I wasn’t talking to their 3rd party distributor. After expressing my frustration they agreed to send me out a replacement. They wanted to make me wait a few days but I requested they should ship it next day air. I was dealing with a particular customer care representative that was to be my main point of contact. She said to give them 6 hours to get back to me which is around 4pm that afternoon. So I agreed. In that time I send 3 emails to my case manager and called her direct line several times to see if I could get updates on the situation – she was unavailable. 4pm came around and no one contacted me. I called up and spoke to a different rep who told me my order was in fact shipping overnight and he continued to give me my new order number and tracking info.

              After hanging up I checked the tracking number on the FedEx website and it seems they submitted my new camera at 9am that morning! Six hours later after I hung up with Dell I received an email from my case manager with the exact information I received over the phone by someone else.

              The morning of Thursday January 10th, I received a new replacement package via FedEx Priority Overnight. I opened it up, WOOD FLOORING AGAIN!!!


              Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 9 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 10 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 11 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 13 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              At this point I knew that their distribution center’s stock of Canon EOS 5D Mark III kits was compromised and the thieves probably cleaned house. I noticed both Canon boxes had clear circular stickers placed on the box flap, and after consulting with the members of an online Canon forum (which I was a member of) they indicated that Canon never uses stickers to seal their boxes and that it sometimes was done by the vendor.

              I contacted Dell’s customer service once again, explained my situation and was told at this point since I received a replacement order and received wood again they would have to investigate this situation with their Fraud and Logistics teams. They would also contact and inform their Distributor. I expressed my extreme frustration and disappointment about receiving another piece of wood instead of my Canon 5D MKIII kit and the ongoing terrible customer service. Again, they tried to say it wasn’t Dell’s fault instead it was their distribution company that was to blame. Again I repeated it was a Dell transaction and they were responsible for everything. They couldn’t push it off on someone else. Their inability to keep tabs on their distributors was not my problem at the least. The shipping labels have all said DELL on them. Not XYZ.

              Judging by the box, it looks like my camera was shipped from D&H Distributing Co.
              D&H Distributing Co, 909 Katie Court, Harrisburg, PA, (717) 561-4313 – www.dandh.com.

              Doing some research on the web brought up issues they have had with items shipped for other distributors. However the distributor in question wasn’t too blame. Fishy at best.
              Friday rolls around and I contacted Dell again. Customer care told me they needed more time and they would contact me when they heard back from their various departments about the issue. I again explained my frustration with them. I began to explain some previous examples of my experience with them – I was promised a call on Monday 1/7 and didn’t receive a call. They also told me they’ll call the next day. I didn’t happen.

              I got a call on Tuesday the 15th January and was told Dell had not heard back from their fraud team and their logistics team found nothing wrong. Further to this the distributor returned their email simply acknowledging the receipt of the news. Nothing more. They said they could try and send me another camera but they couldn’t be 100% sure that I wouldn’t receive wood again. I asked them about the compensation and they said the most they could try to give me was a $100 coupon toward a future Dell.com purchase. I refused and told them I considered it an insult and a slap in the face. Especially with all the time and the frustration that I had to deal with. I asked to speak to someone higher up about the issue. I was extremely upset with this whole situation and what they were offering me. Some have said that I should be lucky to have even received that. I’d say that some don’t have very high standards and are easily toyed with.

              It’s now Wednesday January 16th and I just got off the phone with a higher-up manager from Dell customer care. The absolute best they could offer me was $100 coupon towards a future purchase and that was the most they have ever offered customer. He asked me if he wanted Dell to send me the order and I promptly asked him to cancel my order. I will never be ordering or dealing with Dell again. After 11 years, my relationship with them as a consumer is over. I will make sure to spread this word and make sure that everyone knows what I have experienced.” – Jalal

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              • TSY87

                I never considered ordering camera gear from dell and now I definitely won’t ever.

                That is RIDICULOUS.  I can’t believe they sent you wood BOTH times.  I would contact your local news stations, blast it EVERYWHERE.  I also can’t believe they pathetically offered you $100 toward your next purchase, what BS. 

                I sincerely hope you get your 5d3 eventually and that dell gets what they deserve for dropping the ball so many times with you.

                Good luck!

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=823125853 Paul Kremer

                You know, I don’t understand why companies do stuff like this. We as consumers have easy access to social media and blogs and Youtube, and people love exposing things like this. Wouldn’t it have just been easier for Dell to take care of this situation before blogs start picking it up and reporting it? Then Dell’s PR department will finally get involved and do the right thing, but only AFTER they’ve allowed their image to be damaged. I don’t get it.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001726084324 Denis Fotógrafo Toranzos

                I love dell, but i purchase my camera directly from canon

              • http://www.facebook.com/charlotte.photographer Lenn Long

                Have you noticed the quality of photos over on LumberLiquidators.com have gotten really good recently….(coincidence?)

              • http://twitter.com/JamesRphoto James Robertson

                Haven’t ordered from dell since I had a laptop screen completely fall off (like, the screen half broke off from the keyboard half completely, hanging there by wires) 2 months after I purchased it, called CS and was told it wasn’t their fault and my extended warranty wouldn’t cover it. Visa however did refund me.

              • http://kibblesbits.wordpress.com/ Ann

                D and H, huh? Instead of B and H? Sounds like the company was shady from the get go…

              • http://twitter.com/Spacenoodle Spacenoodle

                How do we know this guy is telling the truth? 

              • http://twitter.com/AngieWheeler2 Angie Wheeler

                PLEASE tell me you got a full refund at least. How crazy!

              • Kenith Leung

                You know, I’ve always had good experience with Dell customer service.

                But this is beyond insane.

                Definitely blow it up, contact a news agency, and perhaps ask a lawyer for assistance.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=752745153 Jimmy Kuhn

                Something is fishy….Wood flooring, twice? If it had not been sent to him it would have been sent to someone else. So it seems there should be more than one person complaining about wood flooring being delivered instead of a camera…It has only happened twice and both times it was to him? Is anyone else complaining about the same thing happening. I mean what are the odds he gets wood flooring twice and no one else gets wood flooring?

                Not saying this happened but. A person could very easily accept an order from UPS, carefully open the box and take out the contents. Then replace it with floor tiles, place it back in the box and go down to the post office or Fed Ex and get another box or envelope, put it in there and seal it….and then open it on camera or while taking pics…..

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501501987 Kristian Colasacco

                That’s exactly right.

              • http://twitter.com/Spacenoodle Spacenoodle

                Exactly, also the guy doesn’t come across as either the most understanding or the most patient, or easy to deal with. Having worked in customer service during my uni years, there was something all too familiar about this type of customer. Some of the things just made me cringe.

                “… she said to give them 6 hours to get back to me which is around 4pm that
                afternoon. So I agreed. In that time I send 3 emails to my case manager
                and called her direct line several times to see if I could get updates
                on the situation – she was unavailable. 4pm came around and no one
                contacted me.”

                They say ‘ok we’re on it we’ll get back to you’, and he sent 3 emails in 6 hours anyway? It’s this type of behavior that will almost guarantee sub-standard service from someone feeling bullied and harassed,  while earning minimum wage answering phones.

              • Rachelle Diaz

                When you go after them, note that it is also ILLEGAL to use those Priority Mail materials (as in the second shipment photo) for anything other than shipping via that method.  Clearly, they are in violation.  The materials (in this case, the padded mailing envelope) are provided free of charge for the sole purpose of USPS Priority Mail shipment.

              • http://twitter.com/DArthurPhoto David Arthur

                Everyone should tweet this to @dell and @michaeldell:twitter 

              • Chris Helton

                 I think they dont care. Like a lot of big tech companies they have contracts with other big companies and Gov. They dont care that one guy is upset, or if 1000 people dont order from them. just my thoughts though. pretty shitty none the less!!
                B&H and Amazon all the way. AWESOME support!

              • http://www.facebook.com/richard.mcgibbon Richard McGibbon

                I think Dell equipment is great but I have had nothing but trouble with their delivery service. Nothing this bad though. 

              • http://twitter.com/DArthurPhoto David Arthur

                Patient? I would a little impatient if they sent me wood instead of expensive camera equipment! What do you think YOU would do?

              • http://www.facebook.com/veneta.britt Veneta Britt

                ir you paid with a credit card call the company and request they refund your money and deduct it from dell;

              • http://www.justintibbittsphotography.com/ Justin Tibbitts

                What was the weight ratio on the tracking slip? Every package must be weighed precisely…

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=752745153 Jimmy Kuhn

                They sent him wood twice? Did not happen. You know how many boxes Fed Ex or UPS handles and the time frame involved? No way someone had time to look through every box to find the camera, not once but twice.  Or that he is the only one complaining about receiving flooring, not once but twice. 

                 And they took his word for it the first time and just sent out a replacement. How many companies just up and agree to send out merchandise without any return or proof. This is not a $30 shirt, it’s a $3,000 camera…..oh, sorry sir about the box of wood, we will just take your word for it and send you a replacement box of wood…thats what about $7,000 of taking his word for it….Seems pretty good customer service to me. To just replace a 5D MIII based on his word that he did not get a camera….

              • PugLover66

                I had the exact same thought. I also Googled D&H Distributing Company and over the last 3 years, they have only had 3 complaints to the Better Business Bureau. If this is true, there should be a lot more than 3 complaints. 

                And seriously, why on earth would you order a camera from a computer company? When it comes to camera equipment I stick with B&H or Adorama. Not even Amazon will do when it comes to that.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=33401538 Stephen Bradford

                Coincidently he was “documenting” his new purchase by taking photos that ended up being “great evidence” of the fraud…

                hmmm. I don’t think I have ever taken photos of myself opening a box, step by step….

              • http://twitter.com/onelittlemister Nicole Kossum

                That’s a very good question! Would love to know the answer as well. Maybe it’s a legit weight…maybe that’s why the “perps” chose wood?? Maybe not… Something is very strange about this story but I cannot fathom someone going so public with this if they weren’t being truthful….right!?! I can imagine he could get in quite a bit of trouble for making something like this up. I’ve dealt with Dell before too….Idk that I’ve ever had an ideal experience with them and don’t do business with them anymore. Anywho, none of really know the truth right now…..but I’d love to hear Dell’s side!

              • http://www.lemagnifiqueblog.com/ Damaris Mia @ Le Magnifique

                This makes no sense at all. It’s mind-boggling to me.. something about this guy’s story is just off…

              • PugLover66

                Am I the only one who finds it fishy that something that was supposed to be INSIDE the box containing the camera, is wrapped in a priority mail envelope? And note all the boxes with shipping labels in the background on the very last picture. Some thing is definitely fishy about this.

              • alphotography

                This honestly doesn’t shock me. I ordered a new computer two years ago from them and when I got it it was broken. and I dont mean there was a glitch or anything I mean the computer was actually busted and it looked like someone had torn open the box that it came in. I took it into the store and demanded a refund or that they send me a new computer immediately and I was refused any service I was given a $30 gift card ….for the $800 computer I had ordered brand new……….

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003848253807 Michael Leonard

                I purchase my gear from B&H… they are fantastic and have never screwed me over.

              • http://twitter.com/ShutterbugDoug1 ShutterbugDoug

                If he is the “geek” he claims to be wouldn’t he shoot video to capture the “geeky moment”? I guess the iPhone 5 doesn’t do video? Could very well be a true story but as my mother used to say, “Something doesn’t smell right in Denmark”.

              • johandrwil

                i had purchased computer from dell for my sons graphics course 3 yrs display died bad chips from nvidia not dells fault they said they continued to sell same boards for years not their fault B.S. over priced cheap crap never ever will i buy anything from dell

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1119656650 John Johnson

                Call me a skeptic, but I thought the same thing–why would a person take pictures at each step of the unboxing process? I mean, I’m a gear geek, but I wouldn’t do that. Why would you take so many pictures of each step of the unboxing process if you were simply just getting to the goodies? And it doesn’t prove anything. A still shot is a still shot. If you had video of the whole process, it would be a LITTLE more convincing(but not un-fakeable). As an honest observer, I don’t think his case is proven. If I were Dell, I would be sending it insured… 

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1119656650 John Johnson

                Excellent point! I’d love to hear the answer, too! And good point from Nicole about “Why go public with it”…unless he thinks it will go nowhere unless he brings the heat…let’s see the shipping bill!

              • http://twitter.com/Jimmy_Schaefer JimmySchaefer

                Lets not underestimate the wood he was sent, it obviously was very expensive flooring possibly form a old home that could be worth some money.  

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/HSC22MEHVYCURRCY7S3BNQAOWI Ralph The Cat

                This dude is the proud owner of two 5d MKiii’s and is trying to get them to refund him his money. Who’s the scammer?

              • ADWheeler

                Wow, what a great way to get a back-up body!!!  I smell a FISH!

              • Julian Chung

                This is an incredibly important point you’ve raised and I’m surprise nobody else has pointed it out. This is nothing but hearsay at the moment, and judging by the more recent comments, some are starting to think this is pretty fishy. 

                There are too many examples of someone posting an unsubstantiated complaint about a business, and rousing up a internet lynch mob, only for it to be found out later it was all lies. 

                There’s a pretty notorious thread on reddit where a guy blamed a computer games company for damaging his vehicle, the PR lady who handled the incident for the company got death and rape threats to her cell phone, and later it came out the guy was lying all along in an elaborate insurance fraud. 

                Fstoppers is a great blog, but try and have a bit of journalist integrity, you’re doing yourself no favours by publishing unsubstantiated, quite suspicious claims. You guys are better than this.

              • t_linn

                I’m a long time customer of Dell.  Bought bodies and lenses from them back in the day when they would sell Canon gear for crazy low prices.  They always took care of me.  Then I ordered a 5D III from them, same as always.  A day after it ships I get a call from some gal in India saying she needed to talk to me about my order.  I don’t call her back.  Why should I?  I talked to their verification dept after placing the order.  I talked to my cc company too.  Everyone talked to everyone.  Charge has gone through.  Item has shipped.  Everything is good.  Long story short, this person recalls my package and I never get the camera.  I eventually got a refund though they wouldn’t process it until they received the camera back.  Never again, Dell.

                Having said that, this guy shouldn’t be complaining when Dell has basically taken his word for it and, for all they know, he’s walked away with two new 5D III’s.  It’s completely plausible that he received wood in the box.  It’s also completely plausible that he didn’t.  If I were Dell I’d be watching his ebay account.

              • http://www.facebook.com/klditmer Kristi L. Garber Ditmer

                WOW… way to go DELL… idiots!  That is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!  What an insult and HORRIBLE business practice!

              • http://www.facebook.com/klditmer Kristi L. Garber Ditmer

                WOW… way to go DELL… idiots!  That is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard!  What an insult and HORRIBLE business practice!

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=784356596 Randy Hong

                What I’m puzzled about is:

                Why did you order your Canon camera through Dell? You may be a Dell Preferred Customer, but Dell is not your concierge.

                Buy your stuff through the proper channels please, else don’t blame them if they just get fed up and decides to screw you over.

                Not once, but twice.

                Boy, you must be such a pain in the ass to them for Dell to do such a thing.

              • Charles Como

                Nice scam dude… He got 2 free 5D MK IIIs. It’s very easy to open the box from the bottom replace the items then flip the box over and make it look like its an unopened box, I feel like calling the police on this guy.. I think at $4k a pop times 2 we are talking felony and jail time.

              • http://twitter.com/bitterer Andy Bitterer

                I don’t buy this story for a second. I want to see the EXIF from those original photos to find out when exactly those were taken. And why would someone document an “unboxing” with bad stills instead of video, unless the pictures would need to “prove” something later. 

                And all the fuzz so he can shoot mediocre images of pimped cars.  

              • http://twitter.com/JPsPhotography JP’s Photography

                Everyone Just retweet this story and add @Dell I will

              • http://www.facebook.com/alex.recupero Alex Patience Recupero

                Notice the crappy WB in the first shipment, and the perfect WB in the second. :P

              • David Leyland

                Has anyone noticed  in the second delivery shots the guy still has the 5d box in the background from the first delivery yet it appears to be photographed on a bed or a sofa!! And I agree with others why on earth would you carefully photograph the knife cutting the tape! I can only guess he has a nice laminate floor in the other room!

              • http://twitter.com/JPsPhotography JP’s Photography

                It’s funny as you read all these comments how quickly everyone believes he is ripping Dell off yet you all have convinced me to second guess this story now lol

              • http://twitter.com/JPsPhotography JP’s Photography

                OMG!!! your so right!!! @David Leyland

              • http://twitter.com/VidVorsic Vid Vorsic

                still better than a nikon :D 

              • joemiangelo

                Major purchases should always be made in person I think. This article is a perfect example of WHY.

              • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.dick.7792 Thomas Dick

                Complete rubbish there is no way it could happen twice to the same person, he’s at it, why take photos of every step of opening the boxes? when he could have set video up on a tripod and done it that way, it’s clearly a load of rubbish and if you think this guy is being genuine then well shame on you.

                I hope they investigate him.

              • RealTNT

                Hope you got your money back ok. A few years ago I bought a 5D II with the 24-105 from an eBay private seller (with decent feedback on high value items) and a few days later I received a big box with something rattling about inside. My first thought was that he had just put the camera box inside another box without any padding, but when I opened it I was shocked to find that it was in fact a sack of…potatoes! £2400 for a 2.5 kilos of potatoes!

                The seller denied any knowledge but thankfully eBay refunded me the full amount…

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