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              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              January 17, 2013
              Trevor Dayley

              New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              Most of us would agree that it is quite exciting when the UPS Truck pulls up with some new gear that we purchased especially when it’s a new camera body or lens. Like kids on Christmas morning we can’t wait to unbox the new toy and put it to test. Sadly one photographer opened the box not to find a new camera body but floor laminate. Read on to learn about his experience, see photos and find out which nationally known dealer did this not just once, but twice to him. 

              As a long time buyer and preferred member of Dell.com, Jalal of JZPhotography, was excited to learn that they would be willing to lower their price on a new Canon 5D Mark III to just about match the same prices he was finding online. He placed his order over the phone with Dell customer service and was shipped what he thought would be a new Canon 5D Mark III with the 24-105mm f4 IS lens. A huge upgrade from his current 30D camera and one that he was extremely excited about. Fortunately, Jaleel documented the unboxing and took pictures of his whole experience with his iPhone 5 which later turned into great evidence to show what he received instead of the new camera he expected.


              Fstoppers Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 1 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 2 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 3 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 4 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 5 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 6 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 7 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 8 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              The following is the experience told by Jalal himself.

              “I wanted to share you with my purchase experience with Dell.com.I was in the market for a new camera. I’ve been shooting with a Canon EOS 30D for 6 years, and I’m looking to get more serious with my photography and wanted to invest in something I could love for at least another 6 years. After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.

              I have been a Dell customer for 11 years and have a Dell Preferred Account which is a line of credit. On January 4th, 2013, I called up Dell Customer Service to see if they would price match their 5D3 kit with other online retailers, Best Buy, B&H, and Amazon. They only could bring the price down by $200, but given that I wanted/needed the camera, I told them ok, and had them order it for me. Dell’s customer care team is completely based out of India.

              January 8th comes around, the package arrives and I’m overly excited – it finally feels like Christmas. I’ve made it a habit of taking photos as I unbox large purchases because you never know what you’re going to find. But also because I’m a giant geek. Everything is packaged perfectly and looks great. I cut open the shipping box, pull out the camera box and start to unbox it…. what do I find? Wood flooring. Perfectly cut and glued together to fit the compartments of the box. No camera, not accessories, no booklets, nothing. Wood mother effin flooring! I was dejected. I went from a super high to a super low in a matter of seconds. There was definite humor in this. Quite frankly I was floored. Badoom pish!

              I called up Dell customer care immediately but the department I needed to speak to was closed. The next morning, Wednesday, January 9th, I call up Dell and explained my situation. They tried to tell me Dell wasn’t to blame because they didn’t ship the item themselves. It was their distributors fault. I pointed out to Dell’s customer care that I purchased my product from Dell.com and they were the company that fulfilled my order. I wasn’t talking to their 3rd party distributor. After expressing my frustration they agreed to send me out a replacement. They wanted to make me wait a few days but I requested they should ship it next day air. I was dealing with a particular customer care representative that was to be my main point of contact. She said to give them 6 hours to get back to me which is around 4pm that afternoon. So I agreed. In that time I send 3 emails to my case manager and called her direct line several times to see if I could get updates on the situation – she was unavailable. 4pm came around and no one contacted me. I called up and spoke to a different rep who told me my order was in fact shipping overnight and he continued to give me my new order number and tracking info.

              After hanging up I checked the tracking number on the FedEx website and it seems they submitted my new camera at 9am that morning! Six hours later after I hung up with Dell I received an email from my case manager with the exact information I received over the phone by someone else.

              The morning of Thursday January 10th, I received a new replacement package via FedEx Priority Overnight. I opened it up, WOOD FLOORING AGAIN!!!


              Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 9 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 10 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 11 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 13 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              At this point I knew that their distribution center’s stock of Canon EOS 5D Mark III kits was compromised and the thieves probably cleaned house. I noticed both Canon boxes had clear circular stickers placed on the box flap, and after consulting with the members of an online Canon forum (which I was a member of) they indicated that Canon never uses stickers to seal their boxes and that it sometimes was done by the vendor.

              I contacted Dell’s customer service once again, explained my situation and was told at this point since I received a replacement order and received wood again they would have to investigate this situation with their Fraud and Logistics teams. They would also contact and inform their Distributor. I expressed my extreme frustration and disappointment about receiving another piece of wood instead of my Canon 5D MKIII kit and the ongoing terrible customer service. Again, they tried to say it wasn’t Dell’s fault instead it was their distribution company that was to blame. Again I repeated it was a Dell transaction and they were responsible for everything. They couldn’t push it off on someone else. Their inability to keep tabs on their distributors was not my problem at the least. The shipping labels have all said DELL on them. Not XYZ.

              Judging by the box, it looks like my camera was shipped from D&H Distributing Co.
              D&H Distributing Co, 909 Katie Court, Harrisburg, PA, (717) 561-4313 – www.dandh.com.

              Doing some research on the web brought up issues they have had with items shipped for other distributors. However the distributor in question wasn’t too blame. Fishy at best.
              Friday rolls around and I contacted Dell again. Customer care told me they needed more time and they would contact me when they heard back from their various departments about the issue. I again explained my frustration with them. I began to explain some previous examples of my experience with them – I was promised a call on Monday 1/7 and didn’t receive a call. They also told me they’ll call the next day. I didn’t happen.

              I got a call on Tuesday the 15th January and was told Dell had not heard back from their fraud team and their logistics team found nothing wrong. Further to this the distributor returned their email simply acknowledging the receipt of the news. Nothing more. They said they could try and send me another camera but they couldn’t be 100% sure that I wouldn’t receive wood again. I asked them about the compensation and they said the most they could try to give me was a $100 coupon toward a future Dell.com purchase. I refused and told them I considered it an insult and a slap in the face. Especially with all the time and the frustration that I had to deal with. I asked to speak to someone higher up about the issue. I was extremely upset with this whole situation and what they were offering me. Some have said that I should be lucky to have even received that. I’d say that some don’t have very high standards and are easily toyed with.

              It’s now Wednesday January 16th and I just got off the phone with a higher-up manager from Dell customer care. The absolute best they could offer me was $100 coupon towards a future purchase and that was the most they have ever offered customer. He asked me if he wanted Dell to send me the order and I promptly asked him to cancel my order. I will never be ordering or dealing with Dell again. After 11 years, my relationship with them as a consumer is over. I will make sure to spread this word and make sure that everyone knows what I have experienced.” – Jalal

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              • Terence Pereira

                Seriously! FStoppers is a site I respect and get some of my photography news from. Please don’t post incredible stories unless you can prove these as fact.

                Yes, they make for sensationalist headlines and attracts more users to your site, but don’t stoop to these levels to get more hits. You guys are better than that.

              • http://twitter.com/antodechav Anto de Chav

                Best bet is stick to your local camera store if possible… I do

              • http://twitter.com/antodechav Anto de Chav

                When will Canon and Nikon get real and add iPhone type tracker to body’s,it would be a real bonus to owners if they could track their stolen gear,Leica have added GPS receivers to the new S,if they added transmitters then it would be a brilliant solution.. 

              • http://www.facebook.com/markal.firenzi Markal Firenzi

                jalaaaal. jackaaaal. defamation, calumny is free.
                +1 @David Leyland

              • http://www.facebook.com/stefan.parol Stefan Parol

                He may got his packages from a anonymus storage somewhere in Asia, and then it would be unlikely to recive woodflooring twice, I agree. But it is also possible, that, as he was ordering from what is not exactly a camera distrubitor, he got this packages from somewhere, anywhere, in the US. Could be some small retail store. How could anyone proof that these cameras disappeared there, and not at UPS or somewhere else? More likely, a big company like Dell compensates the order in the end, without further investigation. Golden opportunity for some, right? I don´t really know who to belive.

              • http://www.facebook.com/ditata James Jones

                If you look at the tape on the box in the first picture, then look at the tape in the picture where the guy is opening it wit the knife, half the tape is already torn off?

                Not saying the guy is lying but you’d think there would be loads of other people coming forward with similar stories to back this up.

                Where is the distribution center in relation to the guy, does he know some one that works there who’s in on it with him? I dunno, he’s either very unlucky or is trying to score a couple of free cameras.

                I wonder if theres anyway of getting the serial codes of the phantom cameras then doing a search online for photo’s with that serial number in the EXIF data?

              • http://twitter.com/BenicioMurray Benicio Murray

                 and pay 30%+ more. No thanks, I’d rather risk a box of floor tiles!

              • Dave_Aa

                Another reason not to buy from Dell, in case this isn’t enough to stop people:  http://elektronista.dk/kommentar/dresscode-blue-tie-and-male/

              • http://www.facebook.com/ldmedia.ireland.9 LdMedia Ireland

                can’t belive this story..

              • http://www.chromaticaversion.com/ Kyle Sanders

                you could always make a wood laminate pin-hole camera, and I bet it wouldn’t have green cast!

              • OldPlop

                Bugger… I ordered a box of floor tiles and got this big u ugly camera instead. Eos 5 or something it was called…

              • Patrick Larson

                Would love to see the EXIF data on these photos. Alas, it’s not there.

              • http://twitter.com/mommytantrum The mom

                Are you saying the author is fishy? Because there is one labeled box in the back and I believe that’s what the first camera box came in.   

              • christian lacasse

                Agreed: this looks fishy. It’s written like an essay rather than out of pure frustration. There is a lot of details and even jokes (I was floored!? really… and words like: I knew their warehouse was compromised). I dunno. What about this other forum he refers to about new bodies shipping with round stickers or not? And what about an imminent future purchase of a 5DMKIII as it is cheaper elsewhere, and he mentioned he “needed” it. Stay tuned FStoppers investigation team :-)

              • http://twitter.com/Feuza Feuza@unjerseybride

                jaw dropping appalling 

              • http://twitter.com/SNPhotog Sarra Nelson

                Since they shipped it overnight, it seems to me that he would still have the packaging/Canon box from the first shipment hanging around. That isn’t suspicious to me at all.

              • Benjamin Schaper

                 Believe it or not, youtube is full of videos from people unboxing stuff, it’s not THAT uncommon….

              • http://twitter.com/SNPhotog Sarra Nelson

                If he is indeed telling the truth, I’d say there will be many more people coming forward. Not saying he isn’t lying or trying to score, but what if he is merely the first person to receive his shipment? 

              • http://www.facebook.com/leftyguitar Michael McClure

                “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.”

                Should have bought it at the store then instead of buying from Dell!  Using the local camera store to first vet the camera of choice and then buying off the web is crappy treatment of your local store(s) and their personnel.  You’re a time waster, so you had your time wasted.  Seems fair enough to me.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/YN3QE6S765P4ZUTEII4SPYKMWA Taylor

                The part that bothers me the most is that they have such terrible customer service.  I always dread calling an online retailer when the need arises because so often now-a-days, companies would rather give customers the run around and otherwise deflect them than give them the service they deserve. It looks like Dell is no different. I won’t be buying from Dell now.

                In contrast, I have had the best customer service you could imagine from B&H Photo.  I recommend purchasing from them.  I have spent thousands of dollars with them over the past few years and never had a problem.  I’ve done a fair bit of returning and/or exchanging too.  I was unlucky enough once to discover a manufacturer defect in a brand new printer model and had to learn by exchanging it several times and calling the OEM tech dept. to help troubleshoot when the same problem presented.  B&H never asked questions or argued, they just kept accepting the return and sending out replacements. I’ll never deal with anyone else becuase they have earned my business. Go to B&H!

              • http://www.facebook.com/dynamitus Andrew Kowalyshyn

                I totally agree.  Who takes that many detailed photos of a box opening?  The whole thing seems weird.  Sounds like Jalal is trying to scam his way in to a free camera.  Sorry bud, fork over the cash like the rest of us.  

              • JLI

                I have a sneaking suspicion something will come out in the wash about this being a hoax. I rather hope it is, for both Jalal and Dell’s sake. To document the opening of the boxes every step of the way in photos – claiming to do this every time a big purchase is a made – is almost divulging “too much” info explaining the one aspect of this whole story that would be suspect to most people reading it. There’s no telling if these boxes weren’t stuffed and packaged by this fellow. And for Dell to only offer a $100 voucher instead of refunding the purchase in full? That really doesn’t make any sense. Things just aren’t adding up.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1351230005 Kane Giblin

                OR Foto Care!

              • http://www.facebook.com/spectaclephoto Richard Johnson

                Looks like D&H’s CEOs were in the shipping house around that time! 
                http://www.cepro.com/article/dh_co_presidents_get_their_hands_dirty/

              • http://www.kevin-geary.com Kevin Geary

                It’s a scam. Dell is right to only offer $100 because they know the story is impossible.

              • Lori Appleman

                Perhaps buying local would have been a far better idea.  Most local stores will at least budge on online prices (if not a full on match) and you wouldn’t have wasted all this time trying to get it right.  

              • http://www.facebook.com/jcumisky John Cumisky

                 

              • Rory McLean

                I’m astounded at the number of people here, not just yourself, that ignored the whole section about being a Dell preferred customer, with a Dell line of credit. Why buy on a credit card and pay their interest rates, when Dell’s credit terms are better for products bought directly from them?
                Dell are Canon and Nikon authorised distributors. It’s no different than buying from Amazon, on an Amazon credit card – other than the actual distribution centre the final item is shipped from (but not always since Amazon warehouse products for hundreds of companies).I see no fault of Dell here, other than maybe customer service reps that didn’t fall over and do everything exactly as this guy demanded.Their fraud department is investigating, how a downchain partner (D&H distributing in this case) can have boxes of wood flooring in their warehouse in place of cameras. Supply chain investigations are not normally completed in just a few days – it takes that long to just accumulate all the relevant paperwork / signatures for every step in the supply chain of these items. That’s before you go into any CCTV footage from the warehouse for the period where it is believed these boxes were sitting there.

                On-line checks for images posted by cameras with the serial numbers for the missing cameras are also done. Yes this is easy to get around if you know the camera is stolen, but if the guys that stole them from the warehouse (a theory) have sold them to someone else, they are not likely to bother stripping all that data from anything they post on-line and those people become an avenue for investigation.

                I wouldn’t expect much of a comment from Dell, other than “This matter is being investigated”, since any internal investigation is likely to be handed over to law enforcement at some point.

              • http://www.facebook.com/jcumisky John Cumisky

                He looks happy enough…

              • http://www.facebook.com/jcumisky John Cumisky

                But joking aside, is this really F stoppers worthy material?

              • Rob Sargent

                Ordering a camera from a computer company probably because he had a “line of credit” there…people do it every day, if NOT, Dell wouldn’t be selling cameras, ya think?

              • Rob Sargent

                When I order something expensive, I’m like a kid at Christmas…ripping the paper to get to the goodies!

              • Rob Sargent

                The distributor  should be investigated…might possibly be a theft ring…but twice is too much of a coincidence.

              • Rob LaRosa

                And this is why I have never and will never order anything from Dell.com – I’ve heard too many horror stories. (Not as bad as this one though!)

              • Rob Sargent

                Coco Bolo, Mahogany, maybe Bamboo….Might be his lucky day!  Just kidding, it sucks!

              • morrisdrew82

                Why the crap would anyone order camera gear from Dell? 

              • Rob Sargent

                If he is truely confident he was ripped off and doesn’t mind the investigation….call his local news channel and have their “troubledshooter” bring it to the publics attention. Maybe he has or maybe he’s afraid of a REAL investigation!

              • brokerthanajoker

                I ordered a computer from Dell ONCE and only ONCE, and I received the wrong computer. Called customer service in India, very nice man, but also very hard to understand. He ships me a new computer and oops wrong one. I had 3 computers sitting here before the right one arrived! They then put in a order for UPS to pick up the others. So don’t be so hasty to call something fishy if you’ve never dealt with the situation.

              • brandoncordell

                Seriously? Go to youtube or google and search for “unboxing”. Hundreds of thousands of people take pictures and videos of them unboxing a new piece of awesome gear. I did it with my first MacBook Pro Retina, my Thunderbolt Cinema Display, my iPhone5, and probably 10-20 other items that I’ve received.

                And how is he trying to scam for a free camera? He obviously paid for it to have it shipped. He didn’t ask them to send it again and refund the price of the camera, he ended up just canceling the order altogether.

              • http://twitter.com/NobilisBellator Nobilis Bellator

                 That would be two cameras, not one…;-) I also am somewhat suspicous and frankly in front of a judge this guy would lose his case. I don’t care how many photos he has to share, even if he had made a Timelapse sequence. There remains the doubt that something was changed between photos. Only a video could have proven him right, because there are ways to see if a video timeline was tampered with.

              • http://twitter.com/NobilisBellator Nobilis Bellator

                 When Dell agreed to cancel the order he would not have been charged for it, and at that point if he was the thief, he already had two cameras in his possession. I agree though with you, had he made a video of the unboxing, his credibility would not be suspected.

              • http://twitter.com/manviln Nicole Manville

                What got me as this being untruthful is that the “second order” the wood is directly in the flat rate envelope… not a Canon box.. they would have had to actually pack the wood in the envelope upon order- they dont just keep priority envelopes with cameras pre packaged like that in the warehouse. 

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                I am surprised at the comments on this story. Let me address a couple of the points. 

                1. It is actually quite common to photograph or film when opening boxes where you expect expensive merchandise to be inside. Google it or search on YouTube and you will find many instances of this. I will definitely be doing it in the future to protect my own rear if something like this were to ever happen to me. 

                2. If Jalal was really trying to scam Dell, why would he be reaching out and sharing his story with news agencies which he has been doing. He is trying to get someone to take notice at Dell. Up till now all he has been able to do with them there is speak with people in their customer service which operates out of India. He has not felt like there has been any real connection or that anyone really cares to handle the situation. If in fact he now is the owner of two new Canon 5D Mark III’s I would believe that at this point he would lay low and not try to draw any attention to himself. 

                3. It is sad to see how easy it is for so many people to call him names when all he is trying to do is share his message so it does not happen to others in the future. If you want to make a comment, please keep your personal feelings to yourself. 

                4. I have been in communications with Jalal and he has promised to let me know when/if he hears back from Dell or D&H about the matter. I will update the article as we receive any communication. 

                5. People are acting as if nothing like this has ever happened before. Again Google it and you will find that in just the last few months there have been some major news stories that are very similar. An iPad was purchased and was full of notepads, a Nintendo 3DS was purchased full of rocks. Ultimately, my hope and I am sure Jalal’s as well, is that by getting the word out about his experience the distributors of these products will do a much better job in their checks and controls to ensure that none of us have to experience a situation like this in the future. 

                6. Lastly, he is getting blasted for not purchasing at a local camera store. We all hope that these camera stores will stick around forever and of course love purchasing from them. The advantage he had with Dell as a preferred customer was a line of credit. Therefore he chose to make the purchase through them rather then at the local dealer. 

                Hopefully DELL takes notice of the story and does some internal investigations into their distribution. It would also be interesting to see if anyone else has experienced something similar recently. If I were in DELL’s shoes I would most definitely look into it. I also know that Jalal has reached out to Canon to share his story as well. 

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                  Odd

              • crachal

                I used to work in the Fulfillment department of an online retailer, and we’ve had cases in which we ordered electronics from distributers, only for dozens of boxes to be filled with wood flooring. They do this because it’s easy to correctly match the weight while also being able to fit into the original box. 

              • http://www.facebook.com/donald.b.miller.5 Donald B Miller

                  I don’t know about the rest of you, but at the bottom of the comments section here I’m getting an ad from BuildDirect for 80% off laminate flooring! Seems this would be cheaper and quicker than ordering a 5Dmk3, twice. You can’t get much flooring in those boxes!

              • http://www.facebook.com/farphotography Chris ClearImages

                I was JUST saying this to someone!!! HAHAHAHAH

              • http://www.facebook.com/adamcphotography Adam Correia

                I’m most upset about him checking out his local stores, wasting a salesperson’s time and expertise only to buy online. If this is true, you deserve to get boxes full of wood. I would be absolutely offended and pissed that you wasted my time looking at 5DMkIII only to go buy it online. Unfortunately, this is happening more and more these days. You buy online…you get what you pay for then. Don’t be cheap, part with a bit more money and realize that person helping you is worth the extra bit of dough. You want gadgets to play with in a store before you buy? You need to actually buy something from that store so they can continue to be your playground.

              • Alok_Gupta

                Be right back, going to procure 2 new 5dmk3′s from Dell and say they sent me granite countertops. Free cameras FTW!!!!

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Adam in my comments just above you will see that I mention he bought it online because he had a preferred line of credit with Dell. I think we would all agree that it’s good practice to buy from local camera stores though when it’s possible. 

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