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              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              Fstoppers 5D Mark III full of wood flooring
              January 17, 2013
              Trevor Dayley

              New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              Most of us would agree that it is quite exciting when the UPS Truck pulls up with some new gear that we purchased especially when it’s a new camera body or lens. Like kids on Christmas morning we can’t wait to unbox the new toy and put it to test. Sadly one photographer opened the box not to find a new camera body but floor laminate. Read on to learn about his experience, see photos and find out which nationally known dealer did this not just once, but twice to him. 

              As a long time buyer and preferred member of Dell.com, Jalal of JZPhotography, was excited to learn that they would be willing to lower their price on a new Canon 5D Mark III to just about match the same prices he was finding online. He placed his order over the phone with Dell customer service and was shipped what he thought would be a new Canon 5D Mark III with the 24-105mm f4 IS lens. A huge upgrade from his current 30D camera and one that he was extremely excited about. Fortunately, Jaleel documented the unboxing and took pictures of his whole experience with his iPhone 5 which later turned into great evidence to show what he received instead of the new camera he expected.


              Fstoppers Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 1 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 2 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 3 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 4 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 5 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 6 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 7 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 8 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              The following is the experience told by Jalal himself.

              “I wanted to share you with my purchase experience with Dell.com.I was in the market for a new camera. I’ve been shooting with a Canon EOS 30D for 6 years, and I’m looking to get more serious with my photography and wanted to invest in something I could love for at least another 6 years. After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.

              I have been a Dell customer for 11 years and have a Dell Preferred Account which is a line of credit. On January 4th, 2013, I called up Dell Customer Service to see if they would price match their 5D3 kit with other online retailers, Best Buy, B&H, and Amazon. They only could bring the price down by $200, but given that I wanted/needed the camera, I told them ok, and had them order it for me. Dell’s customer care team is completely based out of India.

              January 8th comes around, the package arrives and I’m overly excited – it finally feels like Christmas. I’ve made it a habit of taking photos as I unbox large purchases because you never know what you’re going to find. But also because I’m a giant geek. Everything is packaged perfectly and looks great. I cut open the shipping box, pull out the camera box and start to unbox it…. what do I find? Wood flooring. Perfectly cut and glued together to fit the compartments of the box. No camera, not accessories, no booklets, nothing. Wood mother effin flooring! I was dejected. I went from a super high to a super low in a matter of seconds. There was definite humor in this. Quite frankly I was floored. Badoom pish!

              I called up Dell customer care immediately but the department I needed to speak to was closed. The next morning, Wednesday, January 9th, I call up Dell and explained my situation. They tried to tell me Dell wasn’t to blame because they didn’t ship the item themselves. It was their distributors fault. I pointed out to Dell’s customer care that I purchased my product from Dell.com and they were the company that fulfilled my order. I wasn’t talking to their 3rd party distributor. After expressing my frustration they agreed to send me out a replacement. They wanted to make me wait a few days but I requested they should ship it next day air. I was dealing with a particular customer care representative that was to be my main point of contact. She said to give them 6 hours to get back to me which is around 4pm that afternoon. So I agreed. In that time I send 3 emails to my case manager and called her direct line several times to see if I could get updates on the situation – she was unavailable. 4pm came around and no one contacted me. I called up and spoke to a different rep who told me my order was in fact shipping overnight and he continued to give me my new order number and tracking info.

              After hanging up I checked the tracking number on the FedEx website and it seems they submitted my new camera at 9am that morning! Six hours later after I hung up with Dell I received an email from my case manager with the exact information I received over the phone by someone else.

              The morning of Thursday January 10th, I received a new replacement package via FedEx Priority Overnight. I opened it up, WOOD FLOORING AGAIN!!!


              Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 9 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 10 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 11 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera Received Laminate Flooring instead of a camera 13 New 5D Mark III Box Arrives Full of Laminate Flooring, No Camera

              At this point I knew that their distribution center’s stock of Canon EOS 5D Mark III kits was compromised and the thieves probably cleaned house. I noticed both Canon boxes had clear circular stickers placed on the box flap, and after consulting with the members of an online Canon forum (which I was a member of) they indicated that Canon never uses stickers to seal their boxes and that it sometimes was done by the vendor.

              I contacted Dell’s customer service once again, explained my situation and was told at this point since I received a replacement order and received wood again they would have to investigate this situation with their Fraud and Logistics teams. They would also contact and inform their Distributor. I expressed my extreme frustration and disappointment about receiving another piece of wood instead of my Canon 5D MKIII kit and the ongoing terrible customer service. Again, they tried to say it wasn’t Dell’s fault instead it was their distribution company that was to blame. Again I repeated it was a Dell transaction and they were responsible for everything. They couldn’t push it off on someone else. Their inability to keep tabs on their distributors was not my problem at the least. The shipping labels have all said DELL on them. Not XYZ.

              Judging by the box, it looks like my camera was shipped from D&H Distributing Co.
              D&H Distributing Co, 909 Katie Court, Harrisburg, PA, (717) 561-4313 – www.dandh.com.

              Doing some research on the web brought up issues they have had with items shipped for other distributors. However the distributor in question wasn’t too blame. Fishy at best.
              Friday rolls around and I contacted Dell again. Customer care told me they needed more time and they would contact me when they heard back from their various departments about the issue. I again explained my frustration with them. I began to explain some previous examples of my experience with them – I was promised a call on Monday 1/7 and didn’t receive a call. They also told me they’ll call the next day. I didn’t happen.

              I got a call on Tuesday the 15th January and was told Dell had not heard back from their fraud team and their logistics team found nothing wrong. Further to this the distributor returned their email simply acknowledging the receipt of the news. Nothing more. They said they could try and send me another camera but they couldn’t be 100% sure that I wouldn’t receive wood again. I asked them about the compensation and they said the most they could try to give me was a $100 coupon toward a future Dell.com purchase. I refused and told them I considered it an insult and a slap in the face. Especially with all the time and the frustration that I had to deal with. I asked to speak to someone higher up about the issue. I was extremely upset with this whole situation and what they were offering me. Some have said that I should be lucky to have even received that. I’d say that some don’t have very high standards and are easily toyed with.

              It’s now Wednesday January 16th and I just got off the phone with a higher-up manager from Dell customer care. The absolute best they could offer me was $100 coupon towards a future purchase and that was the most they have ever offered customer. He asked me if he wanted Dell to send me the order and I promptly asked him to cancel my order. I will never be ordering or dealing with Dell again. After 11 years, my relationship with them as a consumer is over. I will make sure to spread this word and make sure that everyone knows what I have experienced.” – Jalal

              [Via F Stop Lounge]

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              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Adam in my comments just above you will see that I mention he bought it online because he had a preferred line of credit with Dell. I think we would all agree that it’s good practice to buy from local camera stores though when it’s possible. 

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Adam in my comments just above you will see that I mention he bought it online because he had a preferred line of credit with Dell. I think we would all agree that it’s good practice to buy from local camera stores though when it’s possible. 

              • http://www.clenndesigns.com/ Clenn

                poor you… then you don’t have an idea what brand the pros preferred…

              • http://www.clenndesigns.com/ Clenn

                poor you… then you don’t have an idea what brand the pros preferred…

              • http://www.clenndesigns.com/ Clenn

                poor you… then you don’t have an idea what brand the pros preferred…

              • http://twitter.com/JDennisThomas J. Dennis Thomas

                Fist thing that crossed my mind was that this was fishy as hell. Sorry, but the pics of the first “unboxing” are too posed. Then he receive a SECOND camera and it’s in what looks like a Refurb box?

                He gets TWO boxes of wood, yet Dell fraud investigators find NOTHING? C’mon. What are the odds of a scammer packing wood in ONE retail box and also in ONE Refurb box? ONLY 2 boxes? And the only 2 boxes that were tampered with ended up in the hands of ONE person? A week apart?

                You shoulda left it alone at pulling ONE scam Jalal. 

              • http://twitter.com/JDennisThomas J. Dennis Thomas

                Fist thing that crossed my mind was that this was fishy as hell. Sorry, but the pics of the first “unboxing” are too posed. Then he receive a SECOND camera and it’s in what looks like a Refurb box?

                He gets TWO boxes of wood, yet Dell fraud investigators find NOTHING? C’mon. What are the odds of a scammer packing wood in ONE retail box and also in ONE Refurb box? ONLY 2 boxes? And the only 2 boxes that were tampered with ended up in the hands of ONE person? A week apart?

                You shoulda left it alone at pulling ONE scam Jalal. 

              • http://twitter.com/JDennisThomas J. Dennis Thomas

                Fist thing that crossed my mind was that this was fishy as hell. Sorry, but the pics of the first “unboxing” are too posed. Then he receive a SECOND camera and it’s in what looks like a Refurb box?

                He gets TWO boxes of wood, yet Dell fraud investigators find NOTHING? C’mon. What are the odds of a scammer packing wood in ONE retail box and also in ONE Refurb box? ONLY 2 boxes? And the only 2 boxes that were tampered with ended up in the hands of ONE person? A week apart?

                You shoulda left it alone at pulling ONE scam Jalal. 

              • Leigh Diprose

                Hi Nobilis, you have every right in questioning the correctness of this post. I was the original publisher of the story. I can reveal there will be a follow up post on story including some updated images showing both camera boxes and the like. I haven’t published the story yet as I am still waiting an official reply from Dell Management. The follow up story will be posted on http://fstoplounge.com

              • Leigh Diprose

                Hi Nobilis, you have every right in questioning the correctness of this post. I was the original publisher of the story. I can reveal there will be a follow up post on story including some updated images showing both camera boxes and the like. I haven’t published the story yet as I am still waiting an official reply from Dell Management. The follow up story will be posted on http://fstoplounge.com

              • Leigh Diprose

                Hi Nobilis, you have every right in questioning the correctness of this post. I was the original publisher of the story. I can reveal there will be a follow up post on story including some updated images showing both camera boxes and the like. I haven’t published the story yet as I am still waiting an official reply from Dell Management. The follow up story will be posted on http://fstoplounge.com

              • http://www.facebook.com/lordbeaker Eric Lilly

                lol… Classic!

              • http://www.facebook.com/lordbeaker Eric Lilly

                lol… Classic!

              • http://www.facebook.com/lordbeaker Eric Lilly

                lol… Classic!

              • Karen Kerr

                My favorite line is “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.” How about giving them your business….

              • Karen Kerr

                My favorite line is “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.” How about giving them your business….

              • Karen Kerr

                My favorite line is “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens.” How about giving them your business….

              • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mcdevitt Dan McDevitt

                I had a customer donate an entire brand new Dell computer system with surround sound speakers etc. because of his anger at Dell’s customer service to charity then buy a brand new Sony system. Not shortly after I could write a book about the worst customer service ever just trying to replace a simple power supply through Dell support. Done. I have never used them since. Worst customer service EVER.

              • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mcdevitt Dan McDevitt

                I had a customer donate an entire brand new Dell computer system with surround sound speakers etc. because of his anger at Dell’s customer service to charity then buy a brand new Sony system. Not shortly after I could write a book about the worst customer service ever just trying to replace a simple power supply through Dell support. Done. I have never used them since. Worst customer service EVER.

              • leethecam

                Is this story verified or just passed on as true…?  It’s dangerous territory putting a story out there when reputations are at stake without such.

              • leethecam

                Is this story verified or just passed on as true…?  It’s dangerous territory putting a story out there when reputations are at stake without such.

              • leethecam

                Is this story verified or just passed on as true…?  It’s dangerous territory putting a story out there when reputations are at stake without such.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Karen I address this question in my comments above.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Karen I address this question in my comments above.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1070235626 Trevor Dayley

                Karen I address this question in my comments above.

              • Michael Murphy

                i will be sure to share this post. i know exactly the feeling of the new gear arrival, very much like xmas morning as a child. i waited 6 months for my d4 to arrive and when it did, it was glorius. i couldn’t imagine what a kick in the balls it would be to open a box of wood.

                if our author here was trying to scam dell, well, i suppose it’s a solid effort. lol.

                as for ordering gear, i stick to my dependables, Calumet, B&H, Adorama. no body else, period.

              • Cindy Teter

                that is exactly what I was thinking, ummmmm, really?

              • http://davidsutphin.com/ David Sutphin

                I particularly like the photo of the knife poised to begin cutting open the box. Very convincing.

              • http://davidsutphin.com/ David Sutphin

                I particularly like the photo of the knife poised to begin cutting open the box. Very convincing.

              • Teodor Östlund

                Will never by from Dell. Thank you for the warning.

              • Teodor Östlund

                Will never by from Dell. Thank you for the warning.

              • http://www.facebook.com/tylerburns1 Tyler Burns

                I definitely mourn for you and am sorry for your troubles, but I think your first problem was when you ordered professional camera gear over the phone from Dell of all places.

              • http://www.facebook.com/tylerburns1 Tyler Burns

                I definitely mourn for you and am sorry for your troubles, but I think your first problem was when you ordered professional camera gear over the phone from Dell of all places.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXTBJFSHDIX3JCGT2B4OR6XMR4 Terry Parilla

                Adam is likely referring to the line “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens”.  That means he went to the local stores and likely wasted someone’s time checking it out before deciding what he wanted. Who cares about the preferred line of credit? It’s still rude to go into a brick & mortar and waste their time when you have no intention of giving them a sale.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/OXTBJFSHDIX3JCGT2B4OR6XMR4 Terry Parilla

                Adam is likely referring to the line “After hitting up my local camera stores I decided on a Canon EOS 5D Mark III kit with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS lens”.  That means he went to the local stores and likely wasted someone’s time checking it out before deciding what he wanted. Who cares about the preferred line of credit? It’s still rude to go into a brick & mortar and waste their time when you have no intention of giving them a sale.

              • http://www.facebook.com/Distahs Darrell Steven Hass

                As a Dell support tech of 4.8 years 6 years ago before they closed there business in my town I can personally agree with you that passing the buck and taking no responsibility to the problem with there equipment was encouraged. 

                Just Google the Dell Optiplex GX270 or GX280 capacitor problems.

              • http://www.facebook.com/Distahs Darrell Steven Hass

                As a Dell support tech of 4.8 years 6 years ago before they closed there business in my town I can personally agree with you that passing the buck and taking no responsibility to the problem with there equipment was encouraged. 

                Just Google the Dell Optiplex GX270 or GX280 capacitor problems.

              • Adam Cole

                Obvious scam is obvious.

              • Adam Cole

                Obvious scam is obvious.

              • Kyle McCoy

                The best part about this post is when I viewed it the bottom banner ad was for wood flooring! Proper product placment.

              • Kyle McCoy

                The best part about this post is when I viewed it the bottom banner ad was for wood flooring! Proper product placment.

              • http://www.direct2dell.com LionelatDell

                Thanks to bringing this to our attention. Sorry to see that something like this occured. Our teams are working with the Jalal to address the issue.

                Thanks again,
                LionelatDell

              • http://www.direct2dell.com LionelatDell

                Thanks to bringing this to our attention. Sorry to see that something like this occured. Our teams are working with the Jalal to address the issue.

                Thanks again,
                LionelatDell

              • myshopping

                I had something similar happen to me with an iPod Nano 3 yrs ago. Apple sent a replace. They must’ve reported it to FedEx, filed a claim or something because when the replacement arrived, the FedEx guy said I had to agree to open the package in front him before he can hand it to me, and we both had to sign off on it.  He also said it’s been happening quite often, that most likely the issue was at the Apple distribution center.  Dell should probably do the same with replacing missing items, have the delivery person wait for the package to be opened to verify that it is indeed in the box.

              • myshopping

                I had something similar happen to me with an iPod Nano 3 yrs ago. Apple sent a replace. They must’ve reported it to FedEx, filed a claim or something because when the replacement arrived, the FedEx guy said I had to agree to open the package in front him before he can hand it to me, and we both had to sign off on it.  He also said it’s been happening quite often, that most likely the issue was at the Apple distribution center.  Dell should probably do the same with replacing missing items, have the delivery person wait for the package to be opened to verify that it is indeed in the box.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=699912088 Grisel Castrejon

                Hey, I think they switched the packages! I ordered wood floor and got a Cannon camera!!! LOL! J/K! I hope you got your refund, if not don’t pay the bill, never buy anything else from Dell and let them call you…you’ll see  how they’ll call you EVERY DAY this time! Ha! ;P

              • Reow

                I call bullshit. People don’t photograph unboxings unless A) there’s something wrong with the box or B) they’re an online journalist. It’s obvious that Jalal couldn’t afford (or didn’t want to pay for the camera), so tried to get it for free. When Dell wouldn’t refund after the first ‘botched’ order, he pulled the same stunt a second time so he could force Dell’s hand. I hope they investigate him for fraud.

              • Mister PrimeMinister

                There are in fact so many unboxing videos on youtube, that there are videos that make mockery of unboxing videos.

              • http://www.facebook.com/Seed.Arbach Greg Sullivan

                It’s not like Dell is selling knockoffs…

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/I2PZC63ECFFKKO42YLETEZQ4NM Heaven

                I was about to say exactly what Reow said.  Seriously folks, who takes pics of themselves opening up a box?  really?  He’s trying to get a free camera from Dell.

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