<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Shooting a Martin Schoeller Inspired Portrait</title> <atom:link href="http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait</link> <description>Video Blog for Creative Professionals</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 16:04:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Seagram Pearce</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66917</link> <dc:creator>Seagram Pearce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66917</guid> <description><![CDATA[I stumbled across this lighting setup the same afternoon I became a proud owner of a few strips. Had a friend at the studio &amp; I insisted on using them for a portrait. Eventually tried the same setup &amp; got this (2nd &amp; 3rd last images) http://seagrampearce.com/portfolio/portraits/]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled across this lighting setup the same afternoon I became a proud owner of a few strips. Had a friend at the studio &amp; I insisted on using them for a portrait. Eventually tried the same setup &amp; got this (2nd &amp; 3rd last images) http://seagrampearce.com/portfolio/portraits/</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ghislain Leduc</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66776</link> <dc:creator>Ghislain Leduc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66776</guid> <description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a great article but I think most of people who wrote a comment here read too many sites and heard it all. Go outside and take pictures instead. You&#039;re getting nasty for no reason. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great article but I think most of people who wrote a comment here read too many sites and heard it all. Go outside and take pictures instead. You&#8217;re getting nasty for no reason. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joel Palmer</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66647</link> <dc:creator>Joel Palmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66647</guid> <description><![CDATA[That was painful! With some practice you can look at a picture and in just a few seconds figure out most of the setup. In this case, you can look at Emma&#039;s eyes and have 80% of the lighting figured out. Fortunately in the picture of her, just about all the lights were very clear and obvious.  It shouldn&#039;t take anywhere near that long to make a similar image by a bunch of trial and error. Here was my thought process when I looked at the original:In the original picture, there are 3 lights visible. And the photographer&#039;s head. There are 2 vertical soft light sources (softboxes, stripboxes, whatever, doesn&#039;t really matter) on the left and right. They&#039;re pretty large, making them very soft. They&#039;re probably placed about 1-2ft away from each other. You can see the photographer&#039;s head because it&#039;s partly obscuring the 3rd light source, which appears to be about a fraction of the size of the soft side lights. It&#039;s probably a beauty dish or small umbrella. It&#039;s just above the top of the side lights, creating just a touch of separation on her eyes and nose, and also brightening her forehead a tad. It&#039;s also the same brightness as the side lights.All the lights aren&#039;t terribly close to Emma - you can tell because of the size of the softboxes reflected in her eyes, but also because of how the light falls off so quickly towards the back of her head. This also shows that there are no backlights or rim lights.The background is lit with a light source from the left side as it&#039;s a touch brighter than the right.  She&#039;s far enough from the backdrop that there is no rim light caused by the background.And there you have it.  3 lights on Emma, 1 on the background, and no guessing around. Starting off with 2 light sources next to and slightly behind their subject is like starting a test without reading the instructions! Even in the final shot, you&#039;re missing the beauty dish, and the side lights are entirely too close. The back of his head isn&#039;t lit nearly enough.That brings me to the lens used. Just look at the ears. You can see Emma&#039;s ears, but not Chris&#039;s. That simply says you&#039;re not using a long enough lens. Also, Chris&#039;s nose is huge (no offense Chris, it&#039;s just because of the way it was taken, I&#039;m sure your nose is fine in real life!) and way too out of focus. That&#039;s all because it was shot with a relatively wide lens, rather than a more portrait style lens. I&#039;m guessing she was shot with either an 85 or 100mm lens. Those lenses have excellent compression, but not too much (such as a 200) to make her look too flat.And for the settings, Martin definitely didn&#039;t use such a wide aperture! Her nose is almost completely in focus, and her ears are just barely out of focus. The back of Chris&#039;s eyebrows are just out of focus, whereas Emma&#039;s are crystal clear.  I&#039;m guessing he probably shot at 2.8, especially if it was shot with a 100mm lens, but maybe even a touch higher than that.As far as editing, she&#039;s a lot brighter (I want to say close to 2/3 of a stop, if not a full stop!), but a lot of that is because of the missing beauty dish and the side lights being too close to the front. Her eyes also have an incredible amount of sharpening done to really get them to pop.   Also having a smaller aperture would help sharpness and clarity, especially with that 50 1.4 (I try not to shoot it less than 2.0, just for that reason alone).So even though this took me about 15min to write up, understanding another photographer&#039;s setup should really only take about 30 seconds. Understand the characteristics of light and how they show up on a subject, and you won&#039;t be guessing when you try to duplicate it.So as far as this being a duplication of Martin&#039;s picture, it&#039;s pretty far off in the details.  However, all that being said, this is still a great picture! There&#039;s really not a thing wrong with it, and it would look great as a bio picture!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was painful! With some practice you can look at a picture<br /> and in just a few seconds figure out most of the setup. In this case, you can look<br /> at Emma&#8217;s eyes and have 80% of the lighting figured out. Fortunately in the<br /> picture of her, just about all the lights were very clear and obvious.  It shouldn&#8217;t take anywhere near that<br /> long to make a similar image by a bunch of trial and error. Here was my thought<br /> process when I looked at the original:</p><p>In the original picture, there<br /> are 3 lights visible. And the photographer&#8217;s head. There are 2 vertical soft<br /> light sources (softboxes, stripboxes, whatever, doesn&#8217;t really matter) on the<br /> left and right. They&#8217;re pretty large, making them very soft. They&#8217;re probably<br /> placed about 1-2ft away from each other. You can see the photographer&#8217;s head<br /> because it&#8217;s partly obscuring the 3rd light source, which appears to be about a<br /> fraction of the size of the soft side lights. It&#8217;s probably a beauty dish or<br /> small<br /> umbrella. It&#8217;s just above the top of the side lights, creating just a touch of<br /> separation on her eyes and nose, and also brightening her forehead a tad. It&#8217;s also<br /> the same brightness as the side lights.</p><p>All the lights aren&#8217;t terribly<br /> close to Emma &#8211; you can tell because of the size of the softboxes reflected in<br /> her eyes, but also because of how the light falls off so quickly towards the<br /> back of her head. This also shows that there are no backlights or rim lights.</p><p>The background is lit with a<br /> light source from the left side as it&#8217;s a touch brighter than the right.  She&#8217;s far enough from the backdrop<br /> that there is no rim light caused by the background.</p><p>And there you have it.  3 lights on Emma, 1 on the<br /> background, and no guessing around. Starting off with 2 light sources next to<br /> and slightly behind their subject is like starting a test without reading the<br /> instructions! Even in the final shot, you&#8217;re missing the beauty dish, and the<br /> side lights are entirely too close. The back of his head isn&#8217;t lit nearly<br /> enough.</p><p>That brings me to the lens<br /> used. Just look at the ears. You can see Emma&#8217;s ears, but not Chris&#8217;s. That<br /> simply says you&#8217;re not using a long enough lens. Also, Chris&#8217;s nose is huge (no<br /> offense Chris, it&#8217;s just because of the way it was taken, I&#8217;m sure your nose is<br /> fine in real life!) and way too out of focus. That&#8217;s all because it was shot<br /> with a<br /> relatively wide lens, rather than a more portrait style lens. I&#8217;m guessing she<br /> was shot with either an 85 or 100mm lens. Those lenses have excellent<br /> compression, but not too much (such as a 200) to make her look too flat.</p><p>And for the settings, Martin<br /> definitely didn&#8217;t use such a wide aperture! Her nose is almost completely in<br /> focus, and her ears are just barely out of focus. The back of Chris&#8217;s eyebrows<br /> are just out of focus, whereas Emma&#8217;s are crystal clear.  I&#8217;m guessing he probably shot at 2.8,<br /> especially if it was shot with a 100mm lens, but maybe even a touch higher than<br /> that.</p><p>As far as editing, she&#8217;s a lot<br /> brighter (I want to say close to 2/3 of a stop, if not a full stop!), but a lot<br /> of that is because of the missing beauty dish and the side lights being too<br /> close to the front. Her eyes also have an incredible amount of sharpening done<br /> to really get them to pop.   Also having a smaller aperture would<br /> help sharpness and clarity, especially with that 50 1.4 (I try not to shoot it<br /> less than 2.0, just for that reason alone).</p><p>So even though this took me<br /> about 15min to write up, understanding another photographer&#8217;s setup should<br /> really only take about 30 seconds. Understand the characteristics of light and how<br /> they show up on a subject, and you won&#8217;t be guessing when you try to duplicate<br /> it.</p><p>So as far as this being a duplication of Martin&#8217;s picture, it&#8217;s<br /> pretty far off in the details.  However,<br /> all that being said, this is still a great picture! There&#8217;s really not a thing<br /> wrong with it, and<br /> it would look great as a bio picture!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hadafoto</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66624</link> <dc:creator>Hadafoto</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66624</guid> <description><![CDATA[It&#039;s easy to copy, there are many behind the scenes fro Martin. I have no idea with why not show something  personal and not copycat . Lame?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to copy, there are many behind the scenes fro Martin. I have no idea with why not show something  personal and not copycat . Lame?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Emil Guldmann Christensen</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66621</link> <dc:creator>Emil Guldmann Christensen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66621</guid> <description><![CDATA[You shouldn&#039;t have used a wide-angle lens. You will loose the ears]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have used a wide-angle lens. You will loose the ears</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alistair Nicol</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66607</link> <dc:creator>Alistair Nicol</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66607</guid> <description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t edit with flux on - agreed!!!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t edit with flux on &#8211; agreed!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shawn Collie</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66598</link> <dc:creator>Shawn Collie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66598</guid> <description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZTGXhWjAf4]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZTGXhWjAf4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZTGXhWjAf4</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Furyo Biagioni</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66599</link> <dc:creator>Furyo Biagioni</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66599</guid> <description><![CDATA[I tried to do the sema thing once. This is the result http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301711_10200317070038850_1399764783_n.jpg]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to do the sema thing once. This is the result<br /> <a href="http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301711_10200317070038850_1399764783_n.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301711_10200317070038850_1399764783_n.jpg</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alex Masters</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66587</link> <dc:creator>Alex Masters</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66587</guid> <description><![CDATA[If you can see the photographer in the reflection, and VERTICAL light sources immediately left and right of him ..why would you put strip lights - horizontally - immediately left and right of the subject?The logic is lost on me.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can see the photographer in the reflection, and VERTICAL light sources immediately left and right of him ..why would you put strip lights - horizontally - immediately left and right of the subject?</p><p>The logic is lost on me.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Joshua Lee Penrod</title><link>http://fstoppers.com/shooting-a-martin-schoeller-inspired-portrait/comment-page-1#comment-66526</link> <dc:creator>Joshua Lee Penrod</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://fstoppers.com/?p=71827#comment-66526</guid> <description><![CDATA[cool article]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool article</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>