If you're a fan of listening to photography podcasts then you're probably no stranger to Jared Polin's (Fro Knows Photo) RAWtalk where Jared and buddy Stephen Eckert (an incredibly talented concert photographer) chat about all things photography. The podcast is also recorded for Youtube and is actually a pretty extensive setup.
In this behind the scenes video of RAWtalk Jared shows just what it takes to create the show. He's incredibly detailed in explaining exactly how they film the show and what gear they use. I think it's pretty awesome of Jared to give us a little insight and some tips to how to film a great show like RAWtalk.
If you want a written breakdown of everything that he uses go check out the full article on Fro Knows Photo.
Via: Fro Knows Photo
For one, the editing process in premiere pro would be much simpler and quicker to go through. I remember him boasting a picture of how "insane!!!" the editing process in, but in fact, it only looks insane because they clearly don't know how to maximize premiere pro for their workflow.
I wouldn't keep the two Kino Flows so close to each other nor would I keep them fully open with all the bulbs like that. The lighting looks unnatural in that space and has no real direction to it, it's sort of just spilling and bouncing everywhere for no reason. I would also avoid putting lenses that distort in such bad angles that only make the distortion worse. I would also adjust the camera's (or do it in post) to make sure all the colour balances are equal and even.
You are such a pro. You have made comments about how Jared thinks he is 'better than everyone else' and here you are doing the same thing over and over, "I would do this and I would do that" just shut up already. You have every right to your own opinion but you come across like a complete douchebag. Did Jared sleep with your sister and not call her back or something? I mean come on.....
lol. If I had a sister Jared wouldn't have the opportunity to sleep with her. Based off of what I see from his videos and the way he speaks about women, the guy is pathetic and exaggerates his love life to impress dorks like you.
Wow all these negative comments actually caught me off guard.
I don't know Jared at all, other than what I know of his online persona, but I do follow Stephen Eckert's work and he is an amazing photographer. I really love his concert photography.
Hi Rebecca, anonymous internet guy here. I noticed you work for fstoppers so kudos for running a nice photography site. Much better than that picklepixel place that just copies everything they find on reddit. Perhaps I can shed some light on why I tend to be negative on these forums when I'm actually a pretty nice and pleasant chap in real life.
In this case one "Fro", or Bro as I like to call him because his show has turned into a Bro Dude fest. It wasn't always like this. I started watching him mostly for the entertainment value. I also found out the story of the tragedy in his life and found him to be a likable guy who loved his grandmother. I like that side of him. Absolutely no negativity or disrespect there.
They seemed like a regular guys with their live shows and not really taking themselves seriously. It was pretty light hearted and any bit of real information was purely accidental and usually Craig's doing.
Then things turned ugly and they broke up and I think in one video he actually was reading a statement from his lawyer or something and since then I think his videos and his persona lost their "innocent fun" to me. All of a sudden they tried to look more professional like they were on Meet the Press, the live shows disappeared, and the other people showed up (who is that dude with the thick black glasses?) that were all of a sudden pretend experts but the harder they tried to be an authority, the more annoying they got.
I normally don't comment in forums and articles but i had to this time!
Are you freaking serious??!!! What's with all the negativity ?
Wow people have nothing better to do these days than critic and put down others.
Jared put all his heart and passion into his website.
He has been providing so much useful information for FREE
I owe him big time and wouldn't be where i am now in my photography without his help.
So what if he offers you to buy his t-shirts, i don't remember him sending me a bill for watching his 1000+ videos. And yes i bought his tshirt to support his website.
He got more practical and real life photography experience than most of us.
Therefore I really appreciate his professional advice which cannot be found in many other places for free.
Jared just ignore all the negativity and keep on with the great job! (Stephen too)
I feel much better now.
You all can rip on my comment, i don't care :-)
Photographers supporting other photographers? Nope. Not here. Bunch of cynical complainers.
I'm totally on your side! Thanks Jared...keep it up :D
Do you call radio stations with the old "first time caller, long time listener?"
Yes, I am serious.
Welcome to the internet. He puts himself out there so it's all fair game as long as it's not personal.
It's a website. Anybody can have a website. Besides, it's his business so spending time on it is part of the job.
What useful information has he put up? Shoot raw, got it. Never crop your pictures...that's not useful information. Sometimes you don't have the right lens with you but have to get the picture and with 24 MP's cropping down a little is part of the process. Not use flash? Some of us know how to use it.
If you owe him that much with photography then you have a long way to go because these are just very basic things that you should know after 2 months of shooting.
I don't mind the T-shirts but the videos are laughable. The whole show has turned into an infomercial.
Practical and real life experience in what exactly? Shooting hockey and a 2nd rate concert that comes his way every now and then? Joe McNally- he's got experience and the pictures to prove it. Zack Arias is the real deal (though a bit Emo). Jared has the hair.
What professional advice was the best?
I don't think he cares all that much judging by the youtube comments.
Well good, I hope you feel better. That's the internet for you. Some guy on there usually disagrees with you.
It's people like you that make his community unbearable and why more advanced shooters completely avoid him and his videos. It's full of fan boys who rush to his defence without any logical conversation or discussion coming from it. It's the worst. You do realize that although he has X amount of videos out, a lot of them aren't relevant, or aren't tutorials etc.? It's just a number. All the videos he does have in regards to tutorials and such, are available elsewhere FOR FREE and are more in depth and informative than anything he's ever done.
And it's assholes like you that make me dislike fstoppers. This is a community for all types of photographers, from newbies to old professionals, not somewhere people should be shamed for defending someone they like.
well, with your logic, people shouldn't be shamed for expressing their opinion of dislike of someone's work either. It goes both ways, you realize that right? Some people who see through this guy sometimes want to forewarn amateurs and newbies so they don't get sucked in and become closed minded because one guy wants to be seen as a photography god to them.
There's a difference between "expressing opinion of dislike" and posting 16 comments trashing this guy in every way you can come up with.
What I say about him is no different than what he says about others, so I don't feel bad. sorry
why don't you make videos for free to teach newbies interest in photography, Every body love cynical twats like you...
Well, I don't have time to dedicate to a Youtube channel because I'm busy making a living actually shooting. I also run workshops on the odd weekend that I'm not booked, so I like to think I'm doing my part to help the photography community.
It's the holidays , of course I have time to reply to comments.
Sadly, none of those are my website.
http://www.daveyjphoto.com
Nice try with your attempt to trash on my website.
Would you like to share your website for me to criticize now?
Have you not seen him do his best to belittle the great Ken Rockwell without realizing both of them are the same?
People tend to overlook things that make things they like look bad. Ken Rockwell isn't the only person he belittles, not by a long shot, but I agree, people should be looking at that too.
At least Jared is not an racist... Sure, the show is not perfect, you might not like it, I don't even watch it any more, but when I start to learn about photography it was really helpful for me. In the way is helpful to ask something to your class mates in the university instead of ask your teacher, your class mate might not be the expert but it just make it easy. sorry for my English by the way
Actually, Jared objectifies women constantly in his videos.. CONSTANTLY. He's also made remarks about african-americans' who watch his show. Don't believe me? Go re-watch his video for yourself, you'll feel really stupid.
I agree with you, I like fstopers but assholes like p lester are so annoying.
I can express my opinion just as much as anyone else, call me an asshole, Im not hurt by it, no one here is yet to properly articulate why my opinion is wrong. Small minded people I guess.
Paul, it isn't so much so that your opinion is wrong. It is after all, just an opinion. It is very much so how you went about expressing your opinion the first five posts before actually getting into why you had that opinion.
Sure, he doesn't have a thousand tutorials. What is wrong with that? Chase Jarvis Live doesn't always have on photographers. That doesn't mean the show isn't enjoyable for photographers.
For the record, I have no idea about his community. I just subscribe to his videos on youtube and watch them. It is nice to turn on a Rawtalk and give it a listen while getting some work done. I subscribe to about 10 different photography channels on youtube and they are all a little bit different. They all have their things, good and not as good. It is really tough to have a perfect format. As you note, more advanced shooters may not pick up much from him, but what about the people that aren't as advanced? Toss them into an advanced workshop with (choose workshop leader here) and they don't know what the heck he means when he says shoot wide open, well now that entire segment of viewers is completely shut out. Maybe Jared isn't for you. That's fine. But it seems like you have really gone out of your way to trash him and his product on this article.
I believe Chase was getting the business on here last week too when he posted the idiotic video of himself eating a sandwich on camera and dumping a camera into the ocean with that grin on his face. He's another one of those "Look at me!" people who contribute very little content in favor of self promotion.
Yeah, Chase Jarvis contributes very little content (except for that whole Creative Live thing that he started).
Who exactly does contribute in your mind?
Jared, like Chase, are walking products and commercials.
Aaron Nace from Phlearn has a vested interest in helping people learn. Nearly all his videos are detailed tutorials on how to capture and post-process images, he has no secrets that he needs to sell to his viewers. He does give viewers an option to purchase an extremely detailed video that goes through literally every detail of that shoot, from pre-production, to the shoot, to post-production, etc. That's something worth paying for (especially since it's inexpensive) because it has a lot of care and detail in it. His intention with his youtube videos isn't to completely avoid speaking about something that might be revealed in a tutorial video, no, his videos are there to inform and teach people. Jared's videos are all mini plugs and commercials for his own shirts, brand, videos, sponsors, etc. It's a joke.
I love Phlearn and what Aaron and crew are doing. They rule.
I do find it strange that Chase is a walking product and commercial, but Phlearn isn't in your mind. Creative live has tons of free content out there all of the time. Phlearn has tons of free content out there all of the time. Both sell products and tutorials. Where is the difference?
The content that is free that Phlearn releases is actually useful , relevant, detailed / in depth and doesn't hold back on anything because they want you to buy something. The stuff you pay for from Phlearn is MUCH MUCH MUCH more detailed and in depth than anything Jared is selling, period.
Chase has become a photography novelty with stupid videos like the squint and such, utterly stupid and a marketing ploy to further his brand. His headshot video would have been a massive waste of money had I paid for it (luckily I didn't have to). The information is so basic and lacks real depth. He sits there with a Hassy , in a large studio, with professional models and tells you that you need to talk to them and make them comfortable, and to make sure their nose / chin look out into a certain direction. NO WAY? REALLY CHASE? I'm glad people paid hundred of dollars to watch you tether images from your Hassy to your computer while listening to you say how beautiful all your images look and how great of a camera and lens you have. If people want to pay fort things like that they are better off doing a hands-on workshop or taking a photography class at that price.
As mentioned above, creative live was once a great resource for photographers to get sometimes free information from great photographers. Now, it's mainly a platform for photographers to come in and try to sell themselves. Sometimes you will get a great gem, like Aaron' Nace's creative live video on composite photography, but again, that's because Aaron is awesome and he approached it the same way he would his Phlearn Pro Tutorials.
I challenge you, honestly, to go and purchase Jared Polin's creative live video and watch it in its entirety. I have never cringed so much in my life watching a video. That video will show you the direction that creative live is going into and it's not a good one.
If you are willing to buy it for me, I will watch it. Otherwise, I will pass.
I'm confused here, sounds like you don't know the difference between chase Jarvis and Peter Hurley....and thanks for telling point blank that you stole from me :)
Whoops, yup, I confused the two, probably because they are equally the same in terms of commercializing a brand. I don't understand why people want to walk around with logos and catch phrases that promoter other photographer's and their brands. Boggles my mind.
Also, just because I didn't buy the video doesn't mean I stole it. You seem to be jumping to conclusions and making a poor attempt to label me something I'm not.
You're a mod to this website and are supposed to be professional I thought? Your sarcasm and tone seem to be a real representation of who you are.
You are out of your mind and your arguments are so invalid it makes em cringe when I read your comments. There is a purpose to what they do and guess what...it works for every single one of them!
I was talking about his own hipster videos which are usually in black and white where he talks about how great he is using rad new terms kids are using these days.
While on topic of Creativelive, it started out being informative, but quickly grew tiresome with the exact same formula - usually some know-it-all sitting on a chair with a powerpoint slide talking about how great they are. I mean come on, Jasmine Star was on there so that should tell you all you need to know about the quality of photography.
The only thing Chase and Jared are bringing to the mainstream of photography (and to the mind of amateurs) is that it's important to commercialize yourself and your brand and to hold all your secrets unless someone is willing to pay for them. These kind of guys are what draw photographers away from each other instead of having them help one another. They clearly fear the competition and need to use stupid tactics to try and stay interesting and relevant because their work doesn't speak volumes when compared to other shooters.
Paul, Mansgame I think you just come off as bitter and shallow because of the aforementioned point, they are commericializing their brand. Photography is about your own vision and for some that has nothing to do with your talent as one, but your vision to become a monetary success. For the record Chase Jarvis is a talented business person as well as a photographer. Jared not so much a photographer but has built a recognizeable brand and for that he should be commended. That is probably what bothers most of you on here that over criticizes is that they have developed something that has monetary gain that isn't strictly photography. I do think Fro takes a few too many jabs at other people/places but to each their own and CJ Live is great, he has interesting people on and he has used his success as a commercial photographer to catapault to bigger things. Zack Arias is trying to do that with DedPixl and so on... Just my two cents but if you choose to be bitter about someone else's success you're not paying enough attention to your own.
It's a farce that in this day and age being a youtube star makes people believe you are on par with professional photographers who make a good living without having to create youtube content.. I can list off several pros who don't even have a youtube channel or youtube following who are creating amazing work and making a great living. Branding and Marketing are important, yes, but creating tutorial videos for a living isn't photography.
Paul, once again I think you're missing the point. You don't have to be a top notch photographer to make monetary gains within the industry, Whether it be youtube or any other medium. I am simply someone who enjoys photography and has a bit of skill but would never want to make it a full time profession. My words are coming from a different point of view than someone else's.
There are several pros that make monetary gains thru their work, but you need to keep in mind there is a reason why sites like FStoppers, SLR lounge etc run these blog sites. It's hard to really take it to the next level, to do more than just simply earn a living. I think Chase Jarvis is a pretty good photographer, but he's also a damn good business person. Is it wrong that he chooses to promote his brand and himself versus his photography, not at all. I think your opinion comes from a person who has been taking photos for a very long time and it upsets you to see someone financially gain from it and not technically be a very good photographer (which is completely subjective anyways).
My advice to you would be to simply keep doing what you do and if Polin or any of these other guys bother you that much, start your own informational site that represents photography in a way that you feel just (especially if you have enough passion to rip someone else over what they do)...
lol you don't seem to get what I'm saying. As a full time professional shooter I don't need to waste my time and efforts making an informational website to appease novice photographers, it's pointless and a waste of my time (hell, I wouldn't even have the time to do that if I wanted to).
/ I find it ironic and hypocritical that you say I have a passion for ripping on someone else over what they do when Jared Polin has made his followings by doing that, give me a break, have you seen what he's said about Ken Rockwell? Do some research before putting these clowns a pedestal.
I'm not ripping anyone and I think you're making my point for me. You don't have time to because you choose to make your living my taking pictures. Which is not what a guy like Polin does... there is no right or wrong way, but you're not going to have a 7 figure income photographing weddings/families/commerical shoots etc unless you're in the half percent of people in your profession (like most professions). People like Polin, Hobby, Arias, Jarvis (who I really dig) are simply monetizing in a different way that's photographically related. There is a guy named David Jackson in Wisconsin that I discovered years ago that does great work as well....
I don't know what type of photography that you do, but in meeting other people who are full time shooters, I come away with the notion that it's a grind and they find themselves not getting as much out of it on a personal level because they are always working (meeting/marketing/lining up shoots etc).
From a personal perspective I'd much rather enjoy photography then use it as my form of making a living and if I had to I would try to monetize it such as sites like Fstoppers/SLR Lounge and others have done,
That being said I am neither for or against Polin, I think what he does is what he does.. If you're upset about him having a following because you are a "real photographer" and a real photographer looks down on people who aren't part of the clan.......then don't pay attention to him and keep making work that you're proud of. By the way I'd like to check out your work..
here you go - http://www.daveyjphoto.com/
I can monetize through photography and still enjoy it. Again, the world of photograph is continuously getting flooded with know-it-all youtube photo stars, it's both annoying and distracting resources that are actually useful to learn something without someone inputting their opinion and talking about mostly irrelevant topics.
I like your work, and yes you can be a pro and enjoy it, but the point is this...you're annoyed because you consider yourself a professional photographer and it annoys you that people who you don't feel are on your level are making money by building a brand. There are things that are completely irrelevant to me on this site and others, but I don't bag on it. I simply move on to find something that is relevant to my skill level..
A good comparison is Steve Huff and Ming Thein, they both write distinctly different blogs/sites. Steve isn't a guy making his money as a paid photographer, he's making it thru his site and Ming is somewhere in between. I follow both of their writings because they provide different perspectives. I don't really follow Fro because what he's sharing isn't relevant to me but that doesn't mean I don't commend him for what he does. The same way that Ken Rockwell (who in my opinion takes mediocre photos) does his thing - he provides basically a gaggle of data without much substance or images for that matter....
Personally, Paul you do good work but you may want to get off the high horse. There is plenty of crap out there and it's only annoying if you let it be annoying. The guy/gal with a EOS T3 and a Kit Zoom (and thinks spending $400 on a lens is a lot of money) loves watching Fro - the guy who is a full time pro probably doesn't. Just change the channel if you don't like it.
Good stuff, Jared! Love watching your stuff!
I find it ironic that you love him yet he trashed you in one of his videos implying that you're not a real photographer and you're too much of a photoshop user. I remember you making him look like a complete idiot when you edited that one file in real-time while he watched. You're better than this guy common.
Haha. I like to think of myself as a man ;) Anyone can jockey back and forth and trash who they like. I can take it just as much as I can dish it. Jared's a good dude, I like his style :D
If you think I'm a better guy... thanks? :D Thanks man :P
What episode was that?
Most of the photo stuff out there is all rehash. If you connect with Jared so be it, some of his stuff has helped me. Some of it was annoying. Same with :insertnamehere:. Lots of stuff to love and hate. I can't see a reason to trash the guy who is doing what he wants and not pissing on anyone's lawn. It takes more effort to listen to his stuff than it does to ignore it.
Fro owes a debt of gratitude to Mr. Paul Lester. In this age of social media, the worst possible thing that could happen to someone trying to make a living online is to be ignored. Jared has openly admitted on more than one occasion that people either love him or hate him. To put him in the same category as Ken Rockwell and Chase Jarvis (for better or worst) is perhaps the best possible compliment one could pay to him and his marketing efforts. All three of these guys have a huge following and the income to prove it. As for the likes of Mr. Paul Lester and the other people that have the spare time to endlessly post their hatred for Jared and other internet photography successes, something tells me that your tribes are just a tad bit smaller than Jared's. So no matter how good your photographic skill set may be, its not doing your or any of us much good if you don't have a large group to share it with. This requires a successful marketing effort; Rockwell, Jarvis and Polin are very, very good at that. Good photography combined with bad marketing gets you nowhere.
I suggest that Fstoppers dedicate a post to the photographic genius of Mr. Paul Lester and the other hypercritical folks that like to post on this site. Unleash the genius on your soon to be adoring fans! And one comment to Mansgame: When Chase Jarvis stuffed that sandwich into the flight case, I laughed big time. Would everyone please lighten up a bit? Success in photography requires better marketing than photo skills.