What Unretouched Photos From Victoria Secret Look Like

What Unretouched Photos From Victoria Secret Look Like

Victoria Secret, the company famous for selling underwear, lingerie, and overall sex appeal, is also notable for their amazing models. By the time you see the images from their catalog or campaigns, they are always retouched. Do you ever wonder what the shots look like before retouching? Here are a set of unretouched photos of V.S. Angel, Doutzen Kroes, from a recent shoot.

Victoria Secret released these shots on accident in a public area of the website.

These images were posted to a public area of the VS Web site (apparently in error). They come from the forthcoming September catalog, which explains why retouched versions do not yet exist for a side-by-side comparison. They were shot around July 21 in Turks and Caicos. Even without retouched images to compare, the raw shots are still interesting to look at. -Jezebel

Although the final shots are not released, here’s an idea of what you can expect them to resemble.

How do you feel about the shots before retouching?

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http://twitter.com/brogzzz Bree Van de Kamp
I’m really pleased I saw these photos. They make me feel a lot better about myself! I always had this idea that models were like a different species, no scars, no shave rash, just perfect but I realise they’re just (extremely beautiful) normal people and that makes me happier in my own skin. Thankyou for this article.
http://www.JettFoto.com Corey Melton
nooo, she’s pretty perfect. Im certain this unretouched model puts a lot of pressure on the same women that cry about retouching in a magazine. Its because she is beautiful, thats all. It isnt the industry’s fault that woman just tend to be insecure about their appearance
http://www.facebook.com/vagittarius Chuck Green
I almost threw up. Someone photoshop these immediately.
http://electrojams.com/ Jordan Meeter
Hard to say without seeing the touched up versions.
http://twitter.com/Jet5tar Chris Lyn
You have to look at these photos from the perspective of either for commercial purposes or for artistic purposes. Commercially, they need some retouching for the imperfections. But artistically, I think they look ok as is, maybe a bit more dramatic lighting.
Marian Jamieson
The badly fitting tops. Those poor boobies. :(
http://www.facebook.com/lukas.fisher.568 Lukas Fisher
Huh. They are all still stunningly beautiful, but the point of a picture isn’t to glorify the woman in it, it’s to sell the piece of clothing she has on.
Melissa Tate
If you go on the VS website, you’ll see that when you select different colors of an item, the same picture is used for each one. I imagine they just Photoshop the colors on there rather than try to take the same picture of the same bikini in each of its dozen colors.
http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
I would like to retouch some flesh onto these poor creatures. I find it so bizarre that this is supposed to be the feminine ideal. It makes me think I must be on the wrong planet.
It’s a little hard for me to believe the comments that say that seeing these slight skin imperfections is making women feel better about themselves. But then again, when I see models, I don’t feel bad about myself, I feel bad about the people who are attracted to this. Because, really? You want protruding bones and arms that could snap like a twig? If any of these women stand sideways and stick out their tongue they would look like a zipper. And the poses … seriously? They don’t just make you laugh? The ones on their knees look like they’re peeing. And the rest just look uncomfortable and ridiculous, neither of which is sexy to me.
But I do think it’s cute that the model in the bottom picture has panties on under the string bikini bottom. Just think, if they leave that in, and make it the next trendy look, they can start a whole new revenue stream of underbikini panties!
http://www.facebook.com/jennifer.pursey Jennifer Pursey
Women tend to be insecure because men, like you, obsess over the one percent of females who won the genetic lottery.
Crystal Clear Media
The fact that they are underexposed in many cases and appear to be no better than snapshots from an amateur is what bothers me most. Funny how some photographers make it big but are just average or below shooters.
http://twitter.com/redtearsblack Red Tears Black Wing
I don’t think that a whole lot really needs touching up, the pictures show a normal woman. However I do think it’s important to remove the scars on her legs because if they where to leave them it might be seen as the company endorsing self harm, and yes people I can promise you that they’re self harm scars on her legs they’re more or less identical to the ones that I’ve got on my leg. In fact even though its an image they can still be quite triggering, which really isn’t appropriate to send out into the world for all to see.
http://twitter.com/RhondaParrish Rhonda Parrish
That photoshop job actually makes the bikini look creepy.
viki reed
I’m amazed that they retouch any skin or body stuff. They’re so unbelievably perfect I would find it stunning just to see their real bodies. Better color and contrast sure, but leave the skin alone. On the other side, they do have the exact same bodies as my neighbor’s 7 year old daughter who’s a gymnast and who barely eats. It makes it pretty hard for the rest of us to walk around feeling that beauty is possible when the ideal is a 7 year old with boobs.
Jennifer Jurca
sorry, but that is total bullshit. I do a lot of retouching and I think every final photo ought to be retouched to some extent but you are ridiculously ignorant.
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
Good women never tried to look like Picasso’s models ;)
http://www.JettFoto.com Corey Melton
nah, it’s just part of most women’s emotional makings. and I am glad you have me so figured out …
http://www.JettFoto.com Corey Melton
who said a photo shouldn’t be retouched? ignorance is in the eye of the assumer
gmarley
I’ve noticed, through first hand observance, that women tend to be much harsher on each other when it comes to looks. Watching awards shows with females, some of them self-professing feminists, there’s a constant barrage of “Her boobs look weird.” or “Ew, she looks ugly, what’s wrong with her?” commentary, while the men usually just think “Uh, she’s pretty hot.” Not a hard and fast rule, and men can be brutal no doubt, but we don’t have the monopoly on shallow nitpicking.
http://www.facebook.com/kindra.kinnamanreeves Kindra Kinnaman-Reeves
Wow…..I don’t see the need for retouching here. I just don’t. As a photographer’s daughter yes I see small imperfections, but nothing so drastic it absolutely needs retouching. If I looked like these women I would be very happy with myself. The retouching just makes them look so fake and it puts so much pressure on woman who don’t look like that that they do whatever it takes to look like that whether they starve themselves or are anorexic. They should release a catalog at least one month where the photos aren’t retouched and get feedback. I bet it would be a lot better.
Marco Stix
It looks so flat. Especially the short! Almaost without shades …
An intern? ;o)
Ron Parida
I’m not looking to fight or anything, but who says women don’t do the same? I know TONS of women who droll all over Abercrome models, Actors such as Ryan Reyonlds, Ryan Gosling, etc… Aren’t they part of the 1 percent? Are men also not expected to have six packs and bulging biceps and dress in immaculately tailored clothing because of the same media women are pressured by? The difference is that men’s insecurities aren’t brought under a social spotlight because men are stereotypically (and falsly I might add) “emotionally stronger”, and “don’t care as much” or however you want to put it. :) Just a thought.
We’re all under pressure, but its how one deals with that pressure that makes us who we are, and we ALWAYS have to accept ourselves. I’m KNOW women check out guys JUST AS MUCH as men check out women. You don’t get attracted to someone’s personality from across a room when you’ve never spoken to them before :P We’re all superficial to a certain extent so we may as well accept it and try to present ourselves in the best way possible rather than complain all the time about how society is creating this pressure to look like genetically gifted individuals. I like it, I think it is because of this social pressure that I can look, act, and a work as the BEST VERSION OF MYSELF. Seeing all these “perfect” depictions of people is what fuels me to better myself every day.
http://www.facebook.com/domain.darling Calli Walton
Nothing needs to be retouched here! A little armpit bra bulge happens to the best of us. A little bikini zone redness, no biggie either. Some scars on her leg? Whatever, it’s a sign of an exciting life! If anything else, the only thing this girl is really in dire need of is a sandwich!
http://www.facebook.com/domain.darling Calli Walton
Genetically as humans we’re attracted to people who would make suitable mates to reproduce with. For instance, men are usually attracted to wider hips and bigger breasts because they suggest fertility and successful childbearing. Women who are ovultaing are generally attracted to a more “buff” hunter type (to breed strong, verile kin) whereas those in non-ovulatory phases of their cyle are primarily attracted to men who may be less muscled but gentler and more stable looking (ie. good husbands/fathers). Obviously this isn’t saying that men who work out can’t be good providers for a family or vice versa.
However, the shameful thing in all of this is science has learned to stack the genetic deck with cosmetic surgery and photoshop.
If I may point out how drastically the “ideal woman” has changed over time, look at figure a) the Victoria’s Secret model above as a rough ideal of present time. Please examine figure b) “The Birth of Venus” from 1486. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_Venus_%28Botticelli%29) Obviously not a photo due to a distinct lack of cameras, but widely portrayed as the ideal woman of the time and for quite a few centuries afterwards. In this day and age she might be looked at as fat and small-chested. Possibly even undesirable due to having red hair (we’ve all heard of kick a ginger day).
The ideal man at the birth of our genetics is very similar to the ideal mate of today. Toned, tall, thick hair… all the various signs of healthy testosterone levels (ie. more chance of impregnation due to a higher sperm count). However the ideal father for those children has subconciously changed in the underlying psyches of women as the “desk job” was invented and men no longer had to kill food with their bare hands in order to feed their young.
I do feel the need to point out that women’s standards for an ideal man have changed mainly due to the evolution of the homo erectus into the homo sapiens you see now, who are a far more civilized bunch (or so I’d like to believe). Men’s standards for women have changed for their own sexual purposes as opposed to reproductive purposes. One would think that as we progress on the evolutionary timeline that it would be harder to decieve a man with implants and liposuction, but alas my hopes for the men of mankind are dashed once again. Photoshop is merely a more seamless, less expensive, less noticable method of crafting women into something ridiculously far from the evolutionary core of where we’re supposed to be as far as health is concerned.
http://twitter.com/georgesocka George Socka
Dont understand teh griping. VS is selling clothes, not women. And women obviously buy those clothes in huge volumes to impress mainly men.. According to Limited’s financials, VS sales for 2011-2012 are $6 BILLION. All based on the look created by their garment designers. And their photographers and videographers and in store stylists. The stores, the advertising material and the models in it are there for only one reason. To get people to buy their stuff. And if an extra stretch mark, and extra skin discoloration, a shifty shoulder can all be corrected with Photoshop to make the garment stand out and scream “buy me”
then that is what must be done. People who don’t like that can always shop at Wal-Mart. But, have you looked at a Wal-Mart flyer lately? Pretty perfect people looking selling their stuff too. And if that keeps a bunch of designers, stylists, photographers, videographers and retouchers employed, in the Us and Canada, then BRAVO. Where do I apply?
　
http://twitter.com/georgesocka George Socka
but you DO cook them.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=531857440 Criss Fowler
As someone who was a lingerie model once (literally only one time, ha), I can tell you that they do it primarily for sanitary reasons. We were trying on products that we couldn’t keep, and like all lingerie/bikini bottoms, you’re supposed to try them on with garments on underneath. I also imagine there isn’t a place to change on the beach, so it could have a second purpose.
http://twitter.com/Esmertina Esmertina Bicklesnit
Point taken. If you’re selling a product that doesn’t look good on anybody, you have to disguise how unflattering they are, and that even supermodels wear panties under the bottoms because they are too skimpy. And then count on the fact that most people won’t bother to return the swimsuit they never wear because it looks awful on them. That’s just good business right?
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
it´s not only skin retouching.
it´s “body morphing”.
and especially young girls get a wrong impression from these retouched images. why do you think 14 year old girls want a breast implant today?or why beauty operations are booming in the USA?
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
even the beautiful girls live under the pressure.
ask me … i do modelling myself. :)
look at you… i mean males.
males too feel more and more the pressure to “look good”.
look at “real” males from the 60s or 70s.. and look at the metro males from today.
my last boyfriend had as much deodorant, parfum as i have. LOL
i would like to know how many men shaved their chest or armpits in the 1970s…..
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
yes.. because this is what the media shows us.
and believe me MALES care!!
look at how the look and behavior of males changed over the last 40-50 years.
what kind of men shaved his chest or armpits 40 years ago?
sure none of the now 60 year old men i know…..
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
Yes. In USA. These pictures are all over the world but the problem is in USA. Retouching is not a problem. Education is a problem. Parents don’t have time for their children. Young people are growing up undervalued. So they are trying to “fix” themselves.
Americans always try to fix the effect of the problem not seeing origination of it. You can notice it throughout the US history. Latest and funniest was limit on sugar-drinks in NYC. Or ban on pit bulls in Miami-Dade county becouse one stupid owner made the dog aggressive. Like that is only one breed that can be raised aggressive.
I could go on and on.
Another example: is ban on guns that gov is working on. Like criminals will start respecting the low and will stop buying illegal weapon because it is illegal.
Seeing problem in retouching or body morphing in the pictures as a social problem is at least an IGNORANCE!!
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
im so happy that i now know that…. :)
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
look beyond your small horizon!
you will see that in other societies people need no guns to protect them and per capita they have WAY LESS gun violence.
fact is america is a violent society and it´s stupid to give citizens in such a society free access to weapons.
i really can´t hear that stupid “but then only the criminals have guns” argument anymore. i feel much safer when not every jerk and wacko has easy access to guns.
not seeing that it works better in societys with stricter gun laws…. that is real ignorance.
and back to the topic… the problem is not only noticed in the USA:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14304802
http://www.anza.co.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2094440/Rachel-Weisz-advert-banned-LOreal-admits-airbrushing.html
http://suite101.com/article/body-image-and-beauty-a95673
“The media is currently at war with women’s body image. This war generally takes on two fronts. The first is the media’s portrayal of only one type of woman in magazines, leading film roles, modeling circuits, and television. Often, these women are airbrushed, digitally altered, surgically altered, or suffering from eating disorders. Through this constant portrayal of only one kind of woman as the way women ought to look if they want to be beautiful, a powerful concept is burned into the minds of impressionable men and women. The second front is the constant encouragement for women to lose weight if they wish to be seen as beautiful, coupled with the media and society in general’s general disdain for any women who is even a few pounds “overweight.”
young girls are easily influenced. it´s a fact. look at highschools and peer pressure.
that´s how it is.. and whisful thinking that it will be different and everyone bursts from self-confidence .. yes that is ignorance.
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
I agree that in advertising of cosmetics they shouldn’t manipulate the
picture. In ad of mascara you can clearly see that lashes are Photoshopped. I think in TV, News and Ads lying should be prohibited in a first place
:D Let’s see how the world would look then!
You are focused more about fighting the argument then thinking thru the facts. BTW It is one of the sources of the problems…
Guns are like a Pandora’s box. Ones it is open it is there. You can’t reverse it, but you can think how to deal with it. Prohibition of alcohol didn’t stop people from drinking, just send more to jails. Drugs are illegal and I see people taking, buying and selling drugs every day.
Also, that you feel safer does NOT make you safe. It just makes you FEEL better, until you will get robbed or shot in place, that guns are not allowed. Do you think, if that Colorado shooter new, that people in the theater may be armed, would he even try to open fire? He didn’t shoot to armed police officers…
Just think about it.
I was growing up in Poland. It is extremely hard to buy a legal gun there but I’ve met criminals with hand guns. Maybe junkies don’t have easy access to firearms but still everyday someone is being terrorized with a knife, rapped or stubbed. And victims usually feel safe until that moment. These junkies know that these people are defenseless.
The point is, there is no easy fix. Prohibition doesn’t work even with children.
In civilized countries people can read and write but they can’t think for themselves.
BTW do you believe that RedBull gives you wings? :D Just kidding ;)
http://profile.yahoo.com/T2UYH5CNEQKGCAAKU4J27NI5YA Clyde
But posing in super seductive positions with your legs open doesn’t draw attention away from the product?
http://twitter.com/rolandogomez Rolando Gomez
As a pro photographer whose written six books on photographing women, these photos make me feel good because they lack some simple photographic principles that I can’t believe were not followed–not to discredit the photographers, but the simple, keep the horizon line level was overlooked in several of the photos. While the models are pretty, following simple photography guidelines, or in this case, not following them, is what leads to “retouching” or correcting the image.
I’m actually shocked that the lighting could’ve been better too! Harsh lighting can be softened with scrims, lack of lighting filled with reflectors–the sand and water can only do so much. While I know the model is only the “coat hanger” in fashion photography, they are squinting which causes the lines in the forehead–this can be eliminated by using “black” cloth reflectors, yes, black will absorb some of the light and reduce the squinting. You can also place black tule over a zebra, silver or gold reflector to reduce squinting in the models eyes. Just my two centavos worth, as yes, it’s about selling the product, but the more you get it right in the camera, the less retouching you actually need.
http://www.facebook.com/domain.darling Calli Walton
One could argue the same for women. What women shaved their legs in 3000 BC? One could also argue from a hygene and comfort perspective as well… But I do see your point.
ScriptureZealot
Love your comment. She could use some food.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=670412785 James Workman
All that HYPE! and no Camel Toe? whats the point of this again?
http://www.FiveBucker.com/ FiveBucker
These are great shots as is, but as a previous poster commented the product IS the bikini, not the model and the focus ultimately should be on that… not any imperfections the model may have.
xsaint
Stretch marks? Don’t see any, closest thing is the 2 scars on the right thigh… and if your calling those “stretch marks” you are really not qualified to part of this conversation.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=632649576 Margaret Gore
You are an idiot and history speaks for it self… Look at Washington, DC’ violent crime rate statisticks when they had their hand gun ban…and look at Scotland…one of the top 5 most violent countries in the world (GUN BAN) Not too mention Mexico (GUN BAN)
Think b4 you speak!
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
i know you probably have only a public school education but look beyond your limited horizon… look at other nations that are more civilizised.
i said it´s stupid to give free access to guns in a violent society. that some morons in america will then use knifes to kill…. i don´t doubt it. but it´s easyer to kill with a gun then a knife.
that there are other examples of violent societys.. well what a suprise.. you are a genius!!
that crime rate rised in DC.. well…. they rised in other US states too in that periode. because it was an overall increase in crimes and had nothing to do with the gun ban.
but the gun wackos in the USA believe everything the GUN LOBBY (NRA) tells them… they want too believe.
beside that…. im speaking about homicides caused by guns!!
but only stupid americans can think that more guns make a nation safer.. dumb rednecks.. but hey they voted for g.w. bush twice….. so what shall we expect?! LOL
but hey it´s not my life that is in danger because of wackos carrying guns… i could not care less what happens in america. :)
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
well i have never seen anyone with a gun here… except hunters and the police.
i don´t live in fear like most american that someone at work runs amok and shoots me. and yes … i prefer to live without that fear.
we don´t have ~12000 homicides with guns a year.
we have only a fraction of homicides per capita caused by guns (compared to america).
so im not only feeling safer.. i am safer.
so why is that?
because we have less guns or because a lot of americans are animals that like violence?
not a great choice to make .. eh?
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
You are very angry person. Aren’t you?
http://www.facebook.com/tanja.schulte.7923 Tanja Schulte
LOL…. well i hope you are a photographer not a hair model or psychic…. because you would make no money…. :D
if you care to notice.. she called me IDIOT.. but i guess you just ignored that because it fits you…
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
Call me an idiot and I will ignore you ;) “Only public school education”, “your small horizons”… if insulting people makes you feel better, that means you’re an angry person ;)
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
I wrote one replay and it disappeared.LOL
I don’t know where do you live and what are statistics in your region but what is the difference between murder committed with a gun vs knife or rope or rock?
Guns don’t kill !! People do!
I don’t like guns myself but it doesn’t change reality. The point is, you can’t fix this problem simply prohibiting guns. I wish it was that simple.
The same thing is with the pictures. You can’t blame “industry” for peoples low self-esteem. These people have a problem with themselves in a first place. They learned from 1class that the pretty girl is getting more. Teachers treat her better.
It is a big subject. To big for this small forum. :) Fix education. Educate parents how to raise their kids… choose true educators for a teachers… It is long process but here is a problem end here it has to be fixed. If people from young ages will have a high self-esteem, no picture will make them feel bad about themselves.
You, and many like you, put their anger in a wrong place :)
http://www.flexiblevision.com Roman
“and now you walk around with a gun all day, in case you met a junkie with a gun? i doubt that!”
I want to address this.
The idea is not to walk around with a gun. The idea is to HAVE A RIGHT to carry a gun. If criminal knows that you may be armed he will think twice before he will attack.
If Japan had a nuclear weapon during WWII, USA would not attack Hiroshima or Nagasaki. That is why they never attacked Russia. Because they feared of counterattack. It is basic psychology of equal power.
But this is far from the subject of conversation and I came back to the point in the post above ;)

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