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              August 28, 2012
              Lauren Jonas

              Why ‘Morning After’ Boudoir Photography is Absurd (NSFW)

              A new “trend” seems to have rolled into the photography world. What is this trend? It’s called the “morning after” wedding photography session, and to me it’s a little absurd.

              So you already know my opinion on this subject, yet the rational part of my mind is still able to diverge the topic in two somewhat logical paths (even the path that I think is absurd):

              1) If I were the bride and groom getting the images done, I wouldn’t care what anyone else thought because clearly I am are already vain in the first place. I obviously see the need to have photo documentation right after I’ve consummated my marriage. This is important – my ruffled and unkempt hair, smeared makeup, disheveled sheets, clothes strewn everywhere. My ass is hanging out of my scantily clad “bride” underwear. Now that is a work of art.

              2) But let’s get real: Do I really need images of this? What is the point of having them? Nowadays the only reason us of this present generation take pictures of ourselves is to share online – more importantly, Facebook. Facebook is heavily, and somewhat unhealthily, ingrained in our lives- don’t deny it. It IS the ultimate scrapbook. Scrapbooking places we’ve eaten, friends we met, places we’ve gone, and epic parties that we’ve been too. We even use Facebook to validate marriage. Now all of a sudden the new trend is to document where and how many times we’ve had sex? I bet Mark Zuckerberg never saw that coming.

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              An article in Jezebel that originally discussed this topic references an image of Kate moss and her husband Jamie Hince. Despite my previous tirade, I have no problem with Kate moss doing this. I feel like the standard is completely different for celebrities, as they are in front of the lens 95% of their lives. It was probably impossible for them to keep the images to themselves in the first place because 1) they are narcissists at their finest and 2) they make money and remain in the spotlight by releasing the photos to the press.

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              In this video from Good Morning America, the bride states she plans to have the images framed and put up all over their room. I honestly don’t see anything wrong with doing that – your bedroom should be your sacred place for just the two of you. The room and all its decorations are just for you and your significant other. What I can’t grasp is why you would want something so sacred to be strewn all over the internet for your coworkers, perhaps boss, friends, and relatives to see. One of the couples stated they were so delighted with the results of the shoot, they posted the photos on Facebook and said they were going to show their children when they were old enough. You don’t want to see mommy and daddy gettin’ it on, why the hell do you think they want to see YOU doing that? They got the images taken because they want to show everyone how in love they were? Isn’t that the reason for wedding photography in the first place?

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              I think some of these images can prove to be tasteful and sweet, but an image of you and your significant other lying naked all over the dining room table is way over the top. Just imagine your relatives getting a hold of this image knowing they’re about to come over for Thanksgiving dinner. I’m pretty sure they just want to eat their meal and not have to think about the two of you having sex all over the house. Sure, maybe in the image weren’t actually having sex but who is to say you haven’t before or will later down the road. I’m no prude but this should all be kept private!

              All images © Michelle Jonne

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              • http://www.facebook.com/varda.lobanov Varda Evenstar Mercurio Lobano

                 You think brides-to-be aren’t aware of boudoir shots?  What about maternity pics?

              • ametallichick

                 I really thought it was a good idea as well. I love it!

              • Thewirehead

                Read the title of the article. In fact read the article. She’s quite clearly making it out that she thinks this whole idea is absurd. Opinion noted, but the client wants it, they’re getting it.

              • http://profiles.google.com/mi1stormilst Garrett Graham

                I am 100% on board with your thoughts…in that I don’t want to see them or take them. In my opinion it is generally distasteful, self absorbed and in some cases even disgusting. I put them on the same maturity level as the teen lip pucker bathroom mirror images. I am not so prude as to not appreciate the human form, but I believe there is a time and a place and a way to present it. I suppose that our society is so enamored with themselves that nothing is sacred or personal anymore? Is it always about me, us and what we are doing every 15 minutes? I think not…and it never will be a healthy approach .

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=748308861 Casey Colomb

                 I don’t think this sight was set up solely for YOUR viewing pleasure. This is a website about photography, videography and basically all things creative media. Boy there sure are alot of brats on here. Funny to read though.

              • Jon-Mark Wiltshire

                Gotta say, personally I think this genre is a bit strange and wouldn’t do it myself, but how are these sexualized, semi nude images being shared online or on facebook any more “offensive” than the millions of other sexualized, semi nude images being shared online or on facebook? Why is it suddenly more inappropriate when it’s within the context of marriage? If you’re going to push for a standard, at least be consistent with it and speak out against all publicly shared sexual images, or none of them.

                /confused

              • http://twitter.com/JoeTallsalt Joe Tallsalt

                I remember the outraged that surfaced when SOPA was a hot topic and it seemed everyone screamed, “no censorship”. By attacking a form of photography that some people might see as a form of art isn’t that just another form of intent to censor? 

                I fully respect your right to your opinion and thankfully we have this thing called the 1st Amendment so bravo for your work regardless of the fact that I do not share your opinion.

              • http://twitter.com/IAM_THE_KGB KGB

                First the “trash your dress” photography.

                Now the “morning after” photography.

                You know the “wedding night” photography is next.

                The sad degeneration of wedding photography continues it’s ugly chase for ca$h.

              • http://profiles.google.com/simon.lynchsae Simon Lynch

                You should read a few post by Z. Arias….

                Categorizing your work makes sens AND help the viewer “follow” your work..

              • http://www.facebook.com/timgallo84 Tim Gallo

                I am thinking the point being of this topic is that “morning after” photography does not belong to “wedding photography” genre? If it is so – than its ok, its your opinion man. 
                But who you are to say: “It’s not good for photographers, for viewers, or for those in the image.”?
                Yeah, try to tell that Araki Nobuyoshi (i wonder if you heard of him) or to Terry. 
                Why not “morning after”, it may not belong to “wedding photography”, but it definitely belongs to “realism”. 

                “The room and all its decorations are just for you and your significant other. What I can’t grasp is why you would want something so sacred to be strewn all over the internet for your coworkers, perhaps boss, friends, and relatives to see.”

                Yeah, why do self-portraits? Why do nude self-portraits? Why portrait naked wives as in Araki`s series? Or why do what Antonio D`Agata does?

                I mean you can take it on facebook or people who like to show-off and show there stuff on it. But don`t take it on photography… don`t narrow it down. 

              • robinwoodphoto

                I had 5 messages today from clients about this.  They all thought it was absurd.  I would have to agree.  I work too hard to be a photographer who creates timeless, beautiful images.  I think this is a fad and I am not jumping on board.  

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=602117972 Kevin Younger

                Actually an opinion piece, by it’s very definition, is NOT news. Some “news” outlets seem confused about this.

              • Glenn Marsh

                Almost eveything that is involved with the  marriage and wedding process is aburd. Their are only two exceptions, the cocktail hour(s) and when they serve the wedding cake. I agree with Lauren leave the porn to the professionals, amateur porn is both ugly and boring,.

              • http://www.facebook.com/ziazon Jason Lei

                Wow guys, what’s with the nasty comments? Chillax aye, it’s an article, and I thought it was funny. Just chill! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion’s and just because someone’s opinion doesn’t seem to align with your’s it doesn’t mean you should shit on their parade aye.

              • Robertt1

                Unfortunately, stupidity is part of “realism”, too. Does this make it “art”?

              • Robertt1

                Maybe that should remain on brain memory, not a memory card. Having someone photograph you in these moments doesn’t alter your “meaningful and beautiful” experience?

              • Robertt1

                Distasteful things are also “part of life”. So… get over this silly argument.

              • Robertt1

                 Why don’t you follow your own logic? If you don’t like the article, “shut up about it.”

              • http://www.facebook.com/timgallo84 Tim Gallo

                Aah, you see – this is a matter of definition of word “stupid”?  Does it have anything to do with the topic of conversation? lol
                Actually I think that this pictures says about “human” so much more than any “staged” wedding photography, but i never said that “morning after” pictures are art… i said that it is too much to say that “it is not good for photographers and viewers” 

              • Robertt1

                 Very well said. A part of the beauty of sex comes from the profound intimacy of the act. Having another person around making photos, or other persons viewing it, alter the experience.

              • Robertt1

                “If you are too open minded you brain might fall out”.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=524288146 Matt Palmer

                I wasn’t aware that this kind of photography is done, and now I know, it should all be burned. Burned I say!

              • Robertt1

                To summarize the “beliefs” of the biggest part of the commentators:

                1. Being paid is the supreme criteria.
                2. If it’s “part of life”, it must be photographed and even posted on Internet. (I wonder what is not “part of life”?)
                3. The only wrong thing in this world is to have an opinion about what others do. But when someone commit this supreme sin, you can (must) have an opinion about him and knock him down.
                4. Other than the above, there is no right or wrong.

              • http://twitter.com/sandervdveen sandervanderveen

                I bet Mark Zuckerburg is the biggest prude with his FB censorship! :-D

              • http://twitter.com/Luthman Bengt Luthman

                Jeezzuz what a freaking outrage. The staff on this site does a hell of a job to bring you great material, and at the first sign of something that is not what you expect, your head starts to spin and your asses start to talk.

                I think that it’s great with more opinionated texts on this site and not just the bts and news, it makes for a more complete product.

                It’s like when Canon or Nikon release a camera that isn’t perfect for your specific needs, then you think it’s a piece of crap. If you’d think a wee bit further than the length of your own moustasches you’d see my point.

              • http://www.facebook.com/timgallo84 Tim Gallo

                maybe that was her intentions but she writes:
                “. It needs to die now. It’s not good for photographers, for viewers, or for those in the image. ”
                i think when you write such passages you have to take responsibility… because now we talk about everyone :)

              • WinonaGrey

                Because…you don’t want me to?

                I like having photos of the things I want to remember.

              • http://chrishoffmann.smugmug.com/ Chris Hoffmann

                To quote South Park: “Really???? Really???? Really??????

              • http://chrishoffmann.smugmug.com/ Chris Hoffmann

                All news today is op-ed… IMO

              • http://chrishoffmann.smugmug.com/ Chris Hoffmann

                Interesting article Lauren. Can’t wait to see more!

              • DafOwen

                Not keen on the article – comes across as an over opinionated tirade.

                Anything that is extra business for photographers is good right ?
                What do we care if they’re narcissists. I’d guess the same for people who do an engagement shoot.

              • Christian C Kotze

                News is an opinion. The opinion of the photographer/writer/editor. The moment a writer/photographer/editor makes a decision to include something but exclude another he/she decides what is seen/read – thus an opinion of what happened/will happen. Turn the camera around/change word choice/run story/don’t run story  and it can be quite different.

                All ‘news’ outlets do this. Some more, some less. There is actually no confusion in this.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000804800066 Staverous Cardini

                I have mixed feelings on this one and to be fair will share them both.
                I will agree with Laurens’ opinion because that is how I feel, but at the same time if someone wants to go do this and there is a photographer that is willing to do it all the better. My take on that is I will never take a job that I don’t morally agree with. Money to me isn’t the end all in the world and I am not willing to drop my standards just to pay the bills, I would get a second job over doing something like this. Mind you I also will never shoot a wedding :P

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=651997358 Aaron DuRall

                I really do not get what the fuss is about. What I can deduce from this article is that it’s OK for a super model to do such a thing, but not an average person because models are already undeniably narcissistic? Flawless logic…

                I understand the qualms with a couple sharing these on Facebook. To me, just like a regular boudoir session, these types of images should be kept intimate, and Facebook is anything but. Having said that, you’re investing way too much into what others choose to do with themselves. Even if they choose to post them on a social networking site, which is tacky, it is still none of your business, and really, who are you to judge?

                Many photographers make a living off of photography. I know, it’s a total shocker, right? And, for me personally, it’s my job to give my clients what they want. If this is what they want, so be it. For Heaven’s sake, we aren’t exactly talking porn here. It’s implied intimacy. Just get over it. It’s simply a boudoir session for couples.

              • Matt Lucas

                spent a long time writing my first comment and it didnt show up? are they moderated now?

              • gmarley

                You were saying something about crooked horizons?

                http://www.huronphoto.com/Senior-Portraits/Senior-Portraits/11543573_wtnW24#!i=1893248968&k=mR47278&lb=1&s=L

              • amanduca

                Did your Pastor tell you that? Or your mommy? 

                “A mind is like a parachute. It doesn’t work if it is not open.”  

              • RMcL

                What if I’m a photographer that sells Bridal and Boudoir packages (pre wedding shoots – not morning after) almost exclusively?
                Is it so wrong for me to include, exactly what I sell, in my portfolio?
                Is it wrong to advertise the work I am known for and people recommend me for?

              • Jake

                From the article: “Nowadays the only reason us of this present generation take pictures of ourselves is to hang on the mantle and most importantly, share on Facebook.”

                Generalize much? I’m not sure what “present generation” you’re referring to, but I’m assuming you’re really saying “people 20-30 or so”. Of course, not really sure that matters one way or the other. 

                There’s a great deal of social psychology that goes into responding to your broadly incorrect, and downright silly generalization, but suffice to say that humans have always been storytellers. It’s why campfire stories exist. It’s why fiction books are written. It’s why movies are produced. It’s why the first and the current pictures were taken. We’re documenting our lives in a why never possible until the last few years. We’re telling stories for a vast number of reasons, not all of them narcissistic as you imply. 

                I think many of the shots shown above are beautiful, impressive work. I don’t think that nudity or even post-sex photography is gross. The context and the background of *when* these photos were taken is between the models and maybe, maybe the photographer. 

                Personally, I think the idea of sharing such content (with future kids or on facebook, for instance) is silly and not something I’d do. But then again, I also think that the plethora of 20-something girls taking pictures with their girl friends with their faces smashed together are ridiculous too. I think that people who commission an oil painting of their family to hang above the fireplace is ridiculous.  But so what? This isn’t for me to decide in either case, except where I’m part of the composition and/or part of the decision to share/post/mount. 

                There are really two strains of thought this article is based on: 

                1. We shouldn’t be posting/sharing/hanging/mounting as much as we do today
                2. Wedding night/next day photography is creepy

                Both of those topics would make an interesting *individual* article, but when you combine both into one conversation, you short sheet both topics. 

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1374609376 Tim Krueger

                I find most times the comments on FS are either super negative or super positive.  Seems like a lot of arrogance in the photographic community and I am not sure why.  Just because you have something to say does not mean you should say it.  

              • http://twitter.com/e11world Eddie11

                So basically what this article and some of these comments are saying is to also stop shooting porn videos right?
                People have money and desires and it’s up to them to do whatever they want as well as it is up to you to watch these. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to.

              • johnbp123

                What’s the problem? It’s all good.

              • Robertt1

                Your “parachute” is obviously too small to be useful, even opened.

              • pevanesce

                This is what she said:

                “A new “trend” seems to have rolled into the photography world, and it needs to die. It needs to die now. It’s not good for photographers, for viewers, or for those in the image.”

                The responses to Lauren’s uninsightful comments are hardly attacks. Her comments sounded more like proclamations than opinions, and the responses to them were reasonable. Your threatening to censor such responses is insulting to your readers. If you can’t handle strong responses to outlandish articles, then stick to writing informative articles on the craft and art of photography.

              • coastalfog

                This type of photography has been around forever, it’s called …. PORN :-)

              • http://twitter.com/JPGodwin John Godwin

                This kind of work is just terrible. It’s appealing to the deepest arrogance of couples who actually think their banal bedroom exploits are worth immortalising. The bust of Julius Caesar was worth immortalising. I’d even argue that Lady Gaga is worth immortalising. But you, half-naked in the shower getting man-handled by some slobbering pea-headed gargoyle? Not so much.

                The colour shot is quite possibly the most nauseating photograph I’ve ever seen in my life. 

                There’s always the risk of seeming boring or prudish in disagreeing with this kind of thing, but this genre of photography is right up there with all the worst elements of our business.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1054331425 Jani Sanchez

                Wow! I have to say this is the first time I come here and I was directed straight to this article. I haven’t read a lot of other things you guys have here but I agree with most people in this thread. This is outrageous! I have done images like these and they are amazing memories. To show your children how deeply in love and infatuated you were with each other is bad?  How is that wrong? More than anything, FB like most other social networking sites, are about sharing things that mean the most to you, with those closer to you. No one was naked. The table can be cleaned ;) lol  There was nothing ‘disgusting’ about these images and if your boss or friends ever saw them, this would just confirm what they already know; ‘you are in love and married’ that’s it!
                Lauren, you must have a reason to go out of your box for this and I hope you can get over it bc as a photographer, for you to attack someone’s art, it’s just unbelievable. Respect others so they respect you in return. People are free to do as they like. I personally do not like to post many of my boudoir images bc I respect my client’s privacy, but if I send them to my client and they decide to upload and share, it wont bother me a bit! Maybe you should kick it up a notch and be a bit more creative :) It’s a good feeling to do something creatively amazing <3

              • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-J-Arvizu/753077008 Michael J. Arvizu

                Lauren Jonas from Fstoppers needs to die.

              • http://profile.yahoo.com/YCFHU47YNIZLUJBGGGOVMXHE3M PGA Studio

                To each his own!

              • http://www.facebook.com/michellejonne Michelle Jonné

                Hi everyone,thanks for your support and realizing this article is crap.  Please read my response to Fstoppers and other publications here.  
                http://thephotobrigade.com/tag/michelle-jonne/

                For those that think this work is “terrible” or “narcissistic”, I would like to see what you do and not to mention…get a life!  With all the sh*t going on in the world, love is beautiful and photography is art.

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