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You cannot put a pecking order on photography locations. The only \u0022pecking\u0027 order I\u0027m aware of is first one there creates the line. The only iconic location I\u0027ve photographed is the Grand Canyon. Huge crowds and expecting people to stay clear of your shot is ridiculous. I think the only way you can create some sort of control is a permit system like the Wave in Arizona. I think there are talks of Tunnel View creating a permit system, but then the question becomes fairness. A place like Tunnel View should be enjoyed by all. A family that just wants a quick photo with Cap and the Dome as a backdrop should not have to get a permit. Perhaps a permit at crowded locations if you\u0027re using a tripod? Of course enforcing such permits could be difficult. Hell...a person can show up, break out the tripod for 5 minutes and then bounce. You\u0027d have to have regular patrols to prevent misuse. Can you imagine though, at the rate we are going...What will Tunnel View and Mesa Arch be like in 25 more years if nothing is done?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 428564}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath 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title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428584\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542150009\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 6:00 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428564\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Ryan Luna\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Ryan Luna\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EConsidering the amount of discussion over a topic like the number of card slots in a camera, I would hope this proposal isn\u2019t silly. Either we, the photography community, figure something out, or a system will get imposed on us like the ones you\u2019ve mentioned at the Wave.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 428584}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 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profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/01ryanluna10\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003ERyan Luna\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428591\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542150739\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 6:12 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428584\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Jonathan Reid\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 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There should be a system like tripod permits for over crowded locations. I think imposed tripod permits are great! Make them pricey too. 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href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428593\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542151361\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 6:22 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428591\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Ryan Luna\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 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class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542157388\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 8:03 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428564\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Ryan Luna\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Ryan Luna\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EA permit system is never going to happen at Tunnel View specifically. I could eventually see a quota on the valley that once it meets the max capacity for the day you cant get in, but even then that\u0027s still a ways out. Most peoples opinions too of popular spots is also during peak times. 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href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428586\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542150090\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 6:01 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428571\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Johnny Chien\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 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height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022michaeljin avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542169026\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003Emichaeljin\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428684\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542169026\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 11:17 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428586\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Jonathan Reid\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542182565\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/dizeman\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJon Dize\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428708\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542182565\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 3:02 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428684\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to michaeljin\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n michaeljin\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EMichael? 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542154082\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-2668\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003Elee arthur\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428604\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542154082\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 7:08 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhen my daughter graduated from high school, I managed to get a seat near the front by the stage. While shooting pictures, the paid photographer actually asked if she could use my pictures for the event. With out knowing any real value of my work and it was for a school system only I gave the school copies to use.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 428604}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M313.4 32.9c26 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title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428618\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 13, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542155930\u0022\u003ENovember 13, 2018 - 7:38 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428604\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to lee arthur\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n lee arthur\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EOh man! 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user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-71042\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003ES P\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428697\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542178657\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 1:57 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027d rather see a push to encourage people to take their shot then keep moving, when they find themselves \u0022in the shot\u0022 of someone else. 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\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542188995\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/larsdaniel\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003ELars Daniel Terkelsen\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428729\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542188995\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 4:49 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf I was in a crowd of photographers and instagrammers, I would already have packed my camera down, knowing that I would have no joy in such a common picture. 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title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-162252\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDavid Penner\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428770\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542202078\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 8:27 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-428729\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Lars Daniel Terkelsen\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Lars Daniel Terkelsen\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf as a landscape photographer someone commissioned me to get a certain photo at a very busy location I\u0027d most likely just go online and find a photographer that already took the picture the client is looking for. Contact that photographer and buy the photo off them. Seems like a huge headache to put in all that effort when I could just be a broker.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 428770}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M313.4 32.9c26 5.2 42.9 30.5 37.7 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class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMaximilian Sulzer\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428732\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542190352\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 5:12 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAll photographers are equal, but some are more equal than others. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ERight?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown 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class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESo photographers being commissioned, i.e. paid, to shoot a location should be given priority over those who\u0027ve spent their own money to be there? I don\u0027t think so. I spent several thousands of pounds for my one and only trip to the parks in Utah last month and if I was asked to move because a professional wanted my spot I\u0027d tell them they could have my place when I\u0027m done. 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class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDavid Penner\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428768\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542201660\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 8:21 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf you go to a busy location go search for a unique shot. I\u0027m not sure why you would want to take exactly the same shot as everyone else there. I live 45 minutes away from Banff so I understand the frustration with having a million people in the same spot but really it comes down to go search for the shot that nobody else is taking. Just cuz I\u0027m from the area doesn\u0027t give me priority over anyone else there. If you do set up and someone decides to stand in front of you ask them to move. 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title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-211526\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDale Mellor\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428817\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542213047\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 11:30 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWith all the crowds; I\u2019ve found the best way is to be ourtous and have patience. Our National Parks are for all of us with or without a camera. Not to get on my high-horse and look down at others, Yest if been that guy that walked out into the lake to get the mirrored mountain shot ((for 30-esc), while others meekly til the iconic shot fro the shore \ud83d\ude02\ud83d\ude02. And yes, I\u2019m the guy that\u2019s politely asking tha selfy takers to make it quick and move when impatience takes over. 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class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EChristopher Eaton\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-428976\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542247588\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 9:06 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EFirst off, landscape photography is usually done on public lands, and on public lands, no one has the priority, all have equal access. And, if you have a commercial filming permit in a place like a national park unit, you are required to go out of your way to not interfere with the public.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlso, there is etiquette ... don\u0027t be rude and setup your camera in front of other people\u0027s cameras. If you are a tourist and want to get in front of someone\u0027s camera, ask if it is clear to do so for a moment.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThat said, at a location like Mesa Arch or Horseshoe Bend, there is nothing better than the old first one there gets their choice. I\u0027ve shot at Mesa Arch a number of times and essentially whoever gets there first gets the best location AND sets the line as to how close or far others will setup from the arch. Then the next four or five photographers will get the test of the prime spots. 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title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-19493\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EStephen Hindley\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-429025\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 14, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542257907\u0022\u003ENovember 14, 2018 - 11:58 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAs a sports photographer I find there is a professional courtesy among the other photographers whereby the first there has priority over picking their spot and, for the most part, this is well respected. There have been a few occasions where I have got to a spot early and set up only to have another photographer who felt their assignment was more important than mine step in front of me but every time that has happened and I have asked them to move I have been backed up by others who respect the \u2018rules\u0027 and the offending party has moved. The same courtesy does not apply in public places and I have often had people block my shot with little regard for manners, but I chock that up to their ignorance more than anything. 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href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-429126\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 15, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542295487\u0022\u003ENovember 15, 2018 - 10:24 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-429025\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Stephen Hindley\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Stephen Hindley\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt seems like most people agree with you Stephen. The status quo will go on. Whether it is sustainable in the long run is another story.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMy intention in writing this was to help photographers be a little more considerate of others, including other photographers.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 429126}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542304694\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-208531\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMichelle Maani\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-429188\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 15, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542304592\u0022\u003ENovember 15, 2018 - 12:56 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on Nov 15, 2018\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf I see a lot of photographers,pro or not, I leave. 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class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMark Houston\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-429196\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 15, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542306366\u0022\u003ENovember 15, 2018 - 1:26 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAs long as the selfie folks go last.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n 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L. M.\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542493183\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-170738\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EB. L. M.\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-430026\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 17, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542493183\u0022\u003ENovember 17, 2018 - 5:19 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe surfing hierarchy evolved because people behaved like animals with out it. Prisons have similar systems to reduce bloodshed in the yard I believe. I propose that superior photographers should simply need to be content with their superior results obtained through practice and patience with their fellow man.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 430026}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/thetakinglens\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/styles\/square_small\/s3\/avatars\/2018\/07\/thumb.jpg?itok=a1QdQn8p\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for David Medeiros\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542565632\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/thetakinglens\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDavid Medeiros\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-430368\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 18, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542565632\u0022\u003ENovember 18, 2018 - 1:27 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhat a terrible idea. Hired photographers in a closed venue (eg weddings) should have some priority over guests etc. of course. But to suggest that there should be a pecking order in public is ridiculous. If there is any order of priority in open public places like national parks, it should always be the general publics right of access over the pro photographer who is likely there to make commercial use of the location as opposed to just enjoying it as a citizen. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAny pro who gets pissed at me for being in \u0022their\u0022 shot at a public spot is going to get an earful!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 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height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Jonathan Reid\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542651322\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-430761\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 19, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542651322\u0022\u003ENovember 19, 2018 - 1:15 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-430368\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to David Medeiros\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n David Medeiros\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EDavid, I sympathise with your sentiment and if you read carefully, I gave an example of being in that very situation. What you\u0027ve described - the public having right of access, is in fact a pecking order. 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user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/thetakinglens\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDavid Medeiros\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-430784\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 19, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542654695\u0022\u003ENovember 19, 2018 - 2:11 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-430761\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Jonathan Reid\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Jonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThanks. My original reply is probably colored by the attitudes I keep reading from many pro level photographers who seem to regard the public as a nuisance at these locations. It comes across as a extremely elitist and ingracious. I\u0027ll add that I\u0027m from Hawaii and spent many many hours in the lineup as a body border (a not too bad one either) and the surfing pecking order analogy is similarly elitist IMO as it seemed to be only be for higher level surfers - everybody else was permanently a \u0027grom\u0027 and many on water fights still broke out if you didn\u0027t garner the top surfers acceptance, not a that good a system.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 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height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Jonathan Reid\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221542659566\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/archphoto\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EJonathan Reid\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-430819\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Nov 19, 2018\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221542659566\u0022\u003ENovember 19, 2018 - 3:32 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/should-there-be-pecking-order-photographers-location-305677#comment-430784\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to David Medeiros\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n David Medeiros\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESo you\u0027ll understand me if I say - super stoked Jerry took the title! 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\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Cdiv data-comment-user-id=\u0022237326\u0022 id=\u0022comment-490354\u0022 class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-490354 comment js-comment\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/spacemonki\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/styles\/square_small\/s3\/avatars\/2019\/05\/profilepics.png?itok=Pbogx_0G\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Kevin Richardson\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221558619820\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/spacemonki\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EKevin Richardson\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-490354\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 23, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221558619820\u0022\u003EMay 23, 2019 - 9:57 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHere\u0027s an interesting one. Yesterday, I traveled a couple of hours to photograph an iconic jetty in Tokyo Bay. Now, I noticed a film crew further up the beach recording a music video, but I still wanted to try out some different angles etc, so that when sunset kicked off, I would be ready to get the shot I\u0027d traveled to take. Now, one of producers of the music video came and asked me if I could move at 6:30 to 7:30 because they wanted to shoot the band with the jetty in the background and me being set up where I was was in their shot. I speak an intermediate level of Japanese, but managed to communicate that I had traveled a couple of hours just to shoot this jetty ... and 6:30 to 7:30 pm was the good light ... so whilst understanding that it\u0027s a public place, I would move only if they compensated me for my travel expenses because moving would deny me the shot I\u0027d traveled to get. Anyway, they agreed to pay my travel expenses and so, at 6:30 pm, I moved up the beach and shot an alternative location. Got some rather nice shots and thus, when I turned up to collect my compensation money, I sort of felt a bit guilty that I\u0027d got such lovely shots that I wouldn\u0027t have got if I\u0027d stayed on the jetty. Also, one thing that kind of amused me ... the whole time they were shooting their video, random tourists would wander into their shot ... so they kind of missed the light at its best anyway. I love the fact that every time I get a bit narked that people think they are entitled to locations or positions etc ... I usually find that if I walk away and find somewhere else ... I usually get a more original shot that people haven\u0027t thought about. I mean, one thing I tried was shooting underneath the jetty ... there was some nice bands of light ... but the tide was a bit high and I didn\u0027t want salt water in my camera (seeing one of the latest fstoppers videos reminded me not to take that risk!) ... but anyway, once again ... forcing myself to move around and think of alternative shots rather than the obvious one teaches me a lot more than just going with the obvious shot. 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