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js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-231110\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img avatar-fallback image-style-square-small\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/0165df144b6b6a445fe0bd0950c0d8da.jpg?s=100\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Mike Ditz\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221555519527\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-231110\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMike Ditz\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-478064\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 17, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221555519527\u0022\u003EApril 17, 2019  - 12:45 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/legal\/mercedes-countersue-graffiti-artists-over-dispute-using-murals-their-car-356549#comment-477661\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Kevin Gilmour\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Kevin Gilmour\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIn my experience, permits cover things like where, when, how many people, parking spaces, road closures, special effects, but even in the DMV like FilmLa the backgrounds have not been a 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That\u0027s between the production company and the people who have an interest in the mural or background.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIf this is like most of the similar things I\u0027ve seen, a couple interns or new employees from the  \u0022social media\u0022 group took a G and were told to shoot and post some \u0022local color\u0022 including the murals to how the urban grit.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up tipped-updown\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00221\u0022 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/legal\/mercedes-countersue-graffiti-artists-over-dispute-using-murals-their-car-356549#comment-477661\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Kevin Gilmour\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Kevin Gilmour\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EKevin Gilmour wrote, \u201cMercedes got all of the correct permits, etc from City of Detroit who own the artwork.\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EPermits typically grant the permitees to film, photograph, or stage\/host an event on city property.  A permit will NOT grant the permit-holder to use any creative works protected by copyrights, trademarks nor peoples\u2019 personas (their likeness), and other intellectual property rights for free\u2014all those MUST be cleared, and if not the permit-holder is subject to multiple legal actions. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EKevin Gilmour wrote, \u201cThe artists in question were paid to create their artwork by the City of Detroit, therefore they do not own their respective works...\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EKevin, I would bet that your assumption will be wrong\u2014that\u2019s not how US copyright functions.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThere\u2019s a legal distinction between purchasing (buying) an artwork, photograph, song, etc. vs. owning its corresponding copyright.   See 17 USC 202 (Ownership of copyright as distinct from ownership of material [artwork] object).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EUnless the artist is a full-time employee of the city\/company (the city\/company would then own the artwork), or there\u2019s a contract between the freelance\/independent artist and buyer (that states that the buyer owns the artwork\u2019s copyright\u2014aka, a copyright transfer), or the artwork falls within one of the nine work-for-hire categories, the artist will retain the copyright to his\/her works.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIf I purchased a painting from a local artist, I will own the physical painting that I may display privately in my home; I may also sell it or give it away for free.  However, I don\u2019t get any rights to make copies or get the painting\u2019s copyright, which remains solely and exclusively with the artist--that\u2019s US copyright law. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThough the city of Detroit may have commissioned and paid for the mural to be drawn, the artists will own the copyrights to their works.  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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221555423073\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/mikes\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMike Schrengohst\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-477724\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 16, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221555423073\u0022\u003EApril 16, 2019  - 9:57 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EMercedes should offer each artist a vehicle like that was used in the 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And then be allowed to photograph each artist by their mural with their new Mercedes.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up tipped-updown\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00221\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 477724}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath 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js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-2312\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/styles\/square_small\/s3\/avatars\/2019\/08\/_dsf5700.jpg?h=9f73246d\u0026amp;itok=VxWJazFq\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Drew Pluta\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221555441497\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-2312\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDrew Pluta\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-477808\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 16, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221555441497\u0022\u003EApril 16, 2019  - 3:04 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EDo any of you supporting the artists here understand that the logical conclusion to this will mean an effective ban on all public photography?  If this is the way we do things all street photography will contain copyrighted works and will thus be required to get permission from all parties contained in a frame.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027d like to see the assertion that as muralists they know that the works will be part of a public space and part of the free nature of our society.  Just like we can all be photographed in public and have very few rights to restrict use of our human image.  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class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221555445055\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-233770\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAnthony Nguyen\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-477832\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 16, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221555445055\u0022\u003EApril 16, 2019  - 4:04 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/legal\/mercedes-countersue-graffiti-artists-over-dispute-using-murals-their-car-356549#comment-477808\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Drew Pluta\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Drew Pluta\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EFirst, the law is currently how it is; street photography (assuming it\u0027s non-commercial) has always existed in line with the copyright protection of outside sculptures, murals, and other outside artworks. Personal photography - use that doesn\u0027t involve making money - is not affected by these laws or the outcome of this lawsuit. Shoot to your heart\u0027s content!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHowever, if you\u0027re looking to use other\u0027s copyrighted work in an advertisement or promotion of a product, you\u0027re likely running into the issue of needing permission to use that work. Same goes for music and other works, and I believe this makes sense. I disagree that simply because a work of art is outside and not protected from the elements makes it free of copyright protection. That would discourage artists from sharing their works publicly, and we\u0027d be left with just looking at bland buildings and advertisements when outside.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOne\u0027s privacy is protected the same way art works are in regard to commercial photography, ie. model releases. 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\/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221555442473\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-233861\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003ESteven Russell\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-477813\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 16, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221555442473\u0022\u003EApril 16, 2019  - 3:21 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESo, as an example, the guys that lay asphalt on streets probably think they are artists for how they pour it and create smooth streets. I\u0027m sure electrical workers think they put up light poles and wires in a way that is artistic. The guys that make sidewalks are artists. I could not do any of those things. Should all of those things seen in a photograph or commercial be considered art and request compensation? Anything in the public view, on a street should be considered free. 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0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Steven Russell\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESteven Russell wrote, \u201cDo, as an example, the guys that lay asphalt on streets probably think they are artists for how they pour it and create smooth streets. I\u0027m sure electrical workers think they put up light poles and wires in a way that is artistic.\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESteven, the simple distinction is that those city-type jobs do NOT produce creative works of authorship, as defined in the US copyright statute (like photos, paintings, songs, poems, mixed media works, etc.). 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JaguarUSA have just posted pics on Instagram of  the Jag XE in NY. With? 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field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EDaimler is right.  Protect your art inside a gallery or museum if you\u0027re worried about copyright infringement.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 479924}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath 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\u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221556151599\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-108043\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAiham Dib\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-479939\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 24, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221556151599\u0022\u003EApril 24, 2019  - 8:19 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt is a win win case for the 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field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf a man painted the walls yello or red.\u003Cbr\u003E\nWould he be able to acclaim a Rothko style painting ? And charge Mercedes? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIf Mercedes checked the wall and find on it any scrach or stickers or writings . Which means the work is no longer a Signature .asit developed into.other person work. Can this help Mercedes?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMercedes dont have to pay . For many reasons together. One of them the fact that this painter did not rent rhe street to show his work. So he cant charg for a theme like passing car in the street as long as his work is ocuppying the perspectuve of  visibility this makes of him the guilty not the car. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnyhows, if Merceses chosed to fall back from this portfolio after the artist aclaim. Then he cant charg nothing. Cuz that is when he laid the deal and Mercedes did not take it. So no deal . You cant punish the company for not accepting ur deal.\u003Cbr\u003E\nThough if i am in their shoe i will not fall back from what i did . 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js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-108043\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img avatar-fallback image-style-square-small\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/eaa5a5986f9ef3cacd86167f7dc96a68.jpg?s=100\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Aiham Dib\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221556152599\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-108043\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAiham Dib\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-479945\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Apr 24, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221556152599\u0022\u003EApril 24, 2019  - 8:36 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI wonder if a literal work has to pay every place and somebody mentioned in the novel,  if i say i took the underground then walked the x street to meet the girl in the national.library .....\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOr if say: i read a novel with loud vouce to a group of people. 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This is simple. Below is part of the agreement these mural artists signed with the City of Detroit through the City Wall program that is operated by The Detroit General Services Department.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022The city retains all ownership rights to the mural as an artistic work, including marketing, copyright and exhibition rights. Owner with city approval has the right to market or distribute copies, photographs or other depictions of the mural, except that Owner shall be entitled to include the mural in photographs, films or videotapes of the Building to the extent that the Building is an incidental part of advertising for a business conducted by Owner or a tenant of Owner in the Building.\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThis is pretty standard for these type of projects. Each city has its version, and the wording may be different, but the legal meaning is the same.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThese artists were paid by the city to create public mural\/art installations in specific areas of Detroit through their City Wall program. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESorry, I know you all want to fight the \u0022artist have rights\u0022 thing here, but no. They signed their rights away as soon they signed that agreement and accepted the check.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThat is why Mercedes is countersuing and has every right too. They pay and obtained all proper permits, and it would be a different story if they have not. Don\u0027t you find it interesting that the city or the property owner are not involved. LOL\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EFor the smart butt people here, \u0022Owner\u0022 above refers to the owner of the building\/property \u2014 not the artist. 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the City Wall program that is operated by The Detroit General Services Department.\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAre you absolutely sure that the muralists specifically signed the City Wall agreement, relinquishing their IP rights to the city and\/or others?  Can you provide links to the signed documents that include their names, signature, dates, etc.?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAccording to The Detroit News, officials with the Murals in the Market state that, \u201cthe copyright to the murals is owned \u0022100%\u0022 by their creators [muralists].\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022\u2018We stand firm that the copyright of the artwork always belongs to the artist, unless the artist decides otherwise,\u2019 Roula David, executive festival director for the Murals in the Market program, said in a statement.\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0022\u2018We side with the artists and will help fight against corporations who don\u0027t act responsibly or respectfully.\u2019 David added that Mercedes\u0027 lawsuit is \u0022particularly offensive, as Mercedes has contacted us in the past to license other works for similar advertisements.\u0022 \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAccording to one of the defendant muralists, Daniel Bombardier, he \u0022\u2026spent weeks painting it [his mural] and spent thousands of dollars of my own money making it \u2026And now they have filed a lawsuit against me trying to strip away all of my rights. I feel like I am being bullied and intimidated.\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESource:  \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/detroit-news-murals\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttps:\/\/tinyurl.com\/detroit-news-murals\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBecause the muralists threaten Mercedes with litigation, Mercedes went on the offense and initiated the lawsuits by filing three declaratory judgments (rather than countersuing the muralists, as you wrote).  See \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/content-static.detroitnews.com\/pdf\/2019\/lewis.pdf\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttps:\/\/content-static.detroitnews.com\/pdf\/2019\/lewis.pdf\u003C\/a\u003E \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIn its declaratory judgment filed against the muralist James Lewis, Mercedes never indicated that Lewis\u2019 mural copyright belong to the city or any other party.  If that was the case, it would have aggressively argued that point in its declaratory judgment.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMercedes\u2019 declaratory judgment is relying on a number of legal arguments, including that the its use of the murals in its commercial media context is Fair Use (it only used part of the mural and\/or the background mural was blurry\/in motion), its use transformed the aesthetic and meaning of the mural into something different, and the mural is a functional item to increase tourism and economic development in the Eastern Market area (functional things are not eligible for copyright protection).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EStatements from Roula David, the executive festival director, and the allegations in Mercedes declaratory judgments, tell me that the muralists retain the copyright to their murals.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      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href=\u0022\/u\/user-31425\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003Ealberto cabrera\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-499061\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jun 19, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221560957149\u0022\u003EJune 19, 2019  - 11:12 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/legal\/mercedes-countersue-graffiti-artists-over-dispute-using-murals-their-car-356549#comment-484171\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to AC KO\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n AC KO\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on Jun 19, 2019\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u0022Are you absolutely sure that the muralists specifically signed the City Wall agreement, relinquishing their IP rights to the city and\/or others? Can you provide links to the signed documents that include their names, signature, dates, etc.?\u0022 ---UMMM THEY HAD TO IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE. Google the project.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ESeriously man. I\u0027ve done enough of these type of projects to know how they work. DO you honestly think I just made up legal lingo for fun! Plus, I have done a couple of projects with the city. Nothing gets done without paperwork. Period. Especially, when the city is paying for it. They didn\u0027t work for free btw.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAll you have to call and ask them for a copy of the contract. 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the \u201cproject,\u201d it would be much easier if you located that project and provide its link for this group to review.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003Ealberto cabrera wrote \u201cDO you honestly think I just made up legal lingo for fun!\u201d\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOf course not!  I\u2019ve tried to locate bone-fide resources to help better understand this controversy.  And contrary to what you wrote, I believe The Detroit News\u2019 reporting, as it matches other media reports. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EImportantly, I read the Mercedes\u2019 affirmative defense lawsuit\/s.  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\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221563485106\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-233770\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAnthony Nguyen\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-508096\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jul 18, 2019\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221563485106\u0022\u003EJuly 18, 2019  - 5:25 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/legal\/mercedes-countersue-graffiti-artists-over-dispute-using-murals-their-car-356549#comment-499061\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to alberto cabrera\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan 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for and now citing? This would end this story and litigation pretty quickly.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIndeed, if the artists did sign over their rights to the mural to the City, who then licensed its rights to Mercedes, then this would have been over by now. Mercedes would have sent a copy of the agreements to the artists or at the very least to the courts along with their complaint and the court would have handled this by now.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlso, I looked up the project, but fail to see where they show\/link to the contracts. Can you provide a link?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWhile I don\u0027t doubt what you state, in my experience it\u0027s rare that government entities would just hand over a copy of a contract to persons who is not a party to the contract. Hell, it\u0027s hard to get them to hand over a contract\/information when you have a subpoena and\/or a lawsuit against them. 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comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EInterestingly, the intention of the art director was to put the mercedes forward, in an urban street art!\u003Cbr\u003E\nWhat did artists have to do? Negotiate with mercedes without scandal? or make a big buzz to then negotiate? 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