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\u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/1f5369fbd33ab27c7102f5e0f9e316b9.jpg?s=70\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022the_pro_amateur avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358908140\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003Ethe_pro_amateur\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83641\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358908140\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 9:29 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI completely disagree with this list and I\u0027ve found huge success with my immediate family on facebook following these rules:\u003Cbr\u003E\n1. Be a poor to horrendous photographer with no desire to improve.\u003Cbr\u003E\n2. Post on craigslist looking for foot, underwear, and nude models age 18-18 1\/2\u003Cbr\u003E\n3. Set up a *professional* studio using a desk lamp comprised of 30% duct tape, an office chair, and a wrinkled bed sheet on the basement wall.\u003Cbr\u003E\n4. Be a total creep\/snob\/asshole.\u003Cbr\u003E\n5. Frequent YouTube and other photo \u0022how to\u0022 sites and just try to copy what other people are doing (don\u0027t forget to ask what gear, exact settings, and Photoshop tweaks they used). \u0026nbsp;Having your own vision and knowledge will get you nowhere!\u003Cbr\u003E\n6. Use the word \u0022professional\u0022 a lot.\u003Cbr\u003E\n7.\u0026nbsp;Use the words \u0022budget\u0022 and \u0022affordable\u0022 A LOT.\u003Cbr\u003E\n8. Ruin someone\u0027s wedding day after following #6 and #7 so people are increasingly paranoid about real photographers.\u003Cbr\u003E\n9. If it\u0027s an otherwise bad photo, just HDR the hell out of it, or make it black and white. \u0026nbsp;That\u0027s art man.\u003Cbr\u003E\n10. 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class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-83643 comment js-comment by-anonymous\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Adam Gasson avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358908560\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/adamgasson\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EAdam Gasson\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83643\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358908560\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 9:36 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI think points 1 to 4 are really a single point - have an online presence. I also don\u0027t think that every social network platform out there is applicable to every photographer. Facebook is great for wedding and portrait photographers but next to useless if you shoot editorially for example. While Flickr has some great tools I wouldn\u0027t sign up in the hope of licencing images to Getty. Why not cut out the middleman (and increase your percentage) here and go straight to an agency?\u003Cbr\u003E\nI agree with shooting for free, but not for people how are usual fee payers who might be trying to get a freebie. It\u0027s essential for personal career development though. 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f5289354ee1aa04d37e2aa126f8aae5c.jpg?s=70\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022snapdragon58 avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358908680\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003Esnapdragon58\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83644\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358908680\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 9:38 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI love how people are so quick to criticize free advice! Thank you for the ideas that you did provide...they were helpful to me ;) (oh and by the way...i often shoot for free and it has led to paying gigs)\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 83644}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Simon wardenier avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358909580\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/simnw\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003ESimon wardenier\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83646\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358909580\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 9:53 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHow about: Learn how to take good pictures, develop your own style, make prints, connect with people?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358910180\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=712477702\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EKevin Wilton\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83648\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358910180\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 10:03 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThis has to be about the worst business model I have ever seen. 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class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-33975\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img avatar-fallback image-style-square-small\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ecc66312c239318dba112554b2b5a591.jpg?s=100\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Mbutu Namubu\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358911860\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-33975\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMbutu Namubu\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83650\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358911860\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 10:31 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe reason why business is so difficult for young folks starting out is that the economy is a social system. Markets are based on relations between people that are constantly changing from moment to moment. Any attempt to apply a formula or learn how to run a business through classes at school etc is probably the wrong approach because it doesn\u0027t account for the day-to-day changes in states of affairs.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EA photographer\u0027s reputation is the most important precisely because the market is social. This means that it\u0027s perfectly fine to shoot for free if it will increase a photographer\u0027s reputation in some manner. For example, if working for free gains access to special locations or subject matter that might increase a\u0026nbsp; reputation through a portfolio then it\u0027s definitely worth doing. Meanwhile, working for a fee and producing bad work can only hurt a photographer\u0027s reputation. The point is that the most important thing to be concerned with is reputation and it can often be aided by working for free as well as harmed by working for a fee.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAlso, commercial has a much different culture than wedding\/portraiture. The best business advice I ever got for shooting commercial was to \u0022never do a shoot for less than a grand.\u0022 It turned out to be true based on my experience. The worst jobs and clients often dwell in the below 1000 dollar range. Again, part of gaining a reputation also has to do with what jobs a photographer is willing to reject. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EPhotography is different than other careers because there is no \u0022working your way up.\u0022 In other words, don\u0027t expect to charge low fees and eventually move up to higher fees.That rarely happens. Working for free can actually be less dangerous than charging low fees because free work is a favor. Many times, a favor can even more valuable than shooting a paid job. 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comment js-comment by-anonymous\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Andre Goulet avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359011220\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/duskrider\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EAndre Goulet\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83682\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359011220\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 2:07 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/six-things-every-beginning-photographer-should-know-3612#comment-83650\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Mbutu Namubu\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Mbutu Namubu\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGreat insights. 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\u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Andrew Griswold avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358912280\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/the_gris\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EAndrew Griswold\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83651\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358912280\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 10:38 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENailed it again Nick! Simple and direct rules to starting out and being able to market yourself as a photographer. Tons of great responses and I am really glad Lee and Patrick are fighting back for step \u0026nbsp;5 shoot for free. Its about building upon the work you have, you are gaining experience for one and chances are you are working for a friend most the time so you are familiar with the scene and person. 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Alex Toloczyki avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358912520\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/alex.toloczyki\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EAlex Toloczyki\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83652\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358912520\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 10:42 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EYeah, the site with your name...How would you call your site if your name was \u0022Alex Toloczyki\u0022? It\u00b4s a difficult name, strange name...I choose \u0022\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.ATcam.de\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttp:\/\/www.ATcam.de\u003C\/a\u003E\u0022. 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class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Maikeru Nirvana Zhang avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358913000\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/m.nirvana\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EMaikeru Nirvana Zhang\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83654\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358913000\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 10:50 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EYea I agree with alot of people here. Sorry FStoppers, I don\u0027t mean to criticize, I usually find all your posts amazing, but this time I don\u0027t find this post as very productive advice. I believe the first and foremost aspect a photographer should know first before becoming a pro is reflect and assess - \u0022am I good enough as a photographer to charge people for my images? Would people pay for what I can produce?\u0022\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWith that in mind, then polish their art if need be by shooting heaps, start their own projects, learn from others and share knowledge with other photographers, get proactive.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOnce they passed that stage and have the essential skills to produce \u0022good-enough\u0022 images that people would pay for, then start with your list of approaches. Although I think steps 2-4 is essentially the same step.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EStep 4 is very\u0026nbsp;controversial, we have all shot for free, volunteered or done unpaid work. It is kinda inevitable. However, It is also one major\u0026nbsp;ideology\u0026nbsp;that most clients have in their mind that also destroys our industry. We as a collective of photographers from the world should educate clients or whoever that photography costs money, business or not, projects always have a production cost and overhead costs. Surely photographers just starting out could gain alot of experience from shooting for free - from another pro, or a fellow photographer. But definitely should not get confused with shooting an unpaid \u0022job\u0022. I\u0027m not saying all clients every look for are what\u0027s cheap or that they don\u0027t appreciate good photography, I\u0027m not. But we can\u0027t deny the fact that it does reduce the size of our market, making it even harder for the beginner to start charging money for his\/her work. How many times has anyone hear \u0022Oh, I\u0027m just gonna ask my cousin to take the wedding photos for me because he has a new DSLR camera\u0022. Shoot for free only for yourself and no one else. Only if you believe the images you produce will be beneficial to your portfolio or will give you a wealth of experience and knowledge.If you do come across a situation of opportunity from a potential \u0022client\u0022 then charge them an overhead or discounted fee, or something. Don\u0027t just jump in for free. 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class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Stefan Parol avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358914500\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/stefan.parol\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EStefan Parol\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83658\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358914500\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 11:15 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHonestly, you people, who do you think to charge for your service if noone talks about you cause you never did any freewillingly services for friends of friends etc... You just about to start and want to be paid emidiatly just as you had already prooven yourselfs.\u0026nbsp;\u003Cbr\u003E\nI agree that its absolutely essential to sell yourself for a fair price and rely on what you think you are worth and able to do, otherwise people will just rip you off, but thats not what we are talking about. 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Daniel R. Chang Acat avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358916720\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/foreverfire\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDaniel R. Chang Acat\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83660\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 22, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358916720\u0022\u003EJanuary 22, 2013 - 11:52 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWordpress is a pain in the *ss to maitain and upload a catalog like portfolio. Trust me, i triet: take a look:\u0026nbsp;\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/foreverfire.16mb.com\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttp:\/\/foreverfire.16mb.com\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EFacebook may not have the best quality for my photos but at least it\u0027s easy and fast to keep it updated like this:\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/ForeverFire-FilmsPhotography\/102864106448929\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttps:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/ForeverFire-FilmsPhotography\/10286410644\u2026\u003C\/a\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv 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avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358918640\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/vieverie.tumblr.com\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EGenevieve Son\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83661\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358918640\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 12:24 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EQUICK QUESTION: Flickr or 500px?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n 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class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/729bbabd387a94f63e8a0f807de2ec56.jpg?s=70\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022JonaGMM avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358920500\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EJonaGMM\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83664\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358920500\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 12:55 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EBoth have good qualities.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EPersonally, I use FLickr to upload most of my photos. Serve me as backup and as a way to easily share a particular photo.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EOn the other hand, I upload to 500px the photos I like the most. Quality over Quantity kinda thing. 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avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358919960\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EJonaGMM\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83662\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358919960\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 12:46 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027m not a professional, nor I want to be, but getting to show the photos, places and events that I enjoy, won\u0027t hurt 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So, here:\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003Ejgmm.wordpress.com\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnd fine piece of advice, I didn\u0027t know about the Google Places thing. 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class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Julio avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358920800\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/pulse.yahoo.com\/_I6SK6HEETSYEJKPOWNLJLBR73U\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EJulio\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83665\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358920800\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 1:00 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHeres my top 5 steps to opening a photography business.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u0026nbsp;1- Knowledge\/Creativity (Get it by either second shooting or go to school)\u003Cbr\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;2- Branding\/Marketing (Start with a logo then work on your social sites)\u003Cbr\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;3- Gear (Buy what you need and work your way up)\u003Cbr\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;4- Organization Skills (Either your born with it or you better hire someone that has it)\u003Cbr\u003E\n\u0026nbsp;5- Find Your Style and Stick with it (Find your niche and believe in your self)\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv 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ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/profile.yahoo.com\/C6ASFCPQS4JICYQR2PY7KLBFKE\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003Efutbol4vida\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83671\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358960340\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 11:59 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHow about my site I created just last summer: \u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.dlindahlphotos.com\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ewww.dlindahlphotos.com\u003C\/a\u003E . 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class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022David Crockett avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359019260\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/david.crockett.71\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDavid Crockett\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83688\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359019260\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 4:21 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI\u0027ll be the first to give constructive criticism. You work is at hobbyist level but not at professional level. You need to learn framing and photo retouching. Many photos have issues with the framing with way too much unnecessary negative space and light balance is just all over the place. All of your portraits have many many blemishes that could be easily removed in photoshop. I suggest taking some classes at a local college to further learn the craft before thinking of charging anyone for photography. Also, that starry background is kind of cheezy. I am only pointing all this out in honesty and not to be mean. You clearly have a passion for photography, it\u0027s just that is not enough. Hope this helps. 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data-livestamp=\u00221359044520\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 11:22 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENo offense taken at all, I prefer honest feedback to sugar coated crap. It makes me better. I actually did take a few classes several years ago in college but perhaps Ive lost my way. I actually like the negative space and I would agree Im weak with light- although I as a hobbyist I am working during the week and thats my excuse. Thanks a ton for the tips, if you wouldnt mind commenting on specfic shots with recommendations on my flickr I\u0027d highly appreciate it (\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/27659703@N02\/\u0022 rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022\u003Ehttp:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/27659703@N02\/\u003C\/a\u003E).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThanks!\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: 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new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358973840\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EScott Hargis\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83672\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358973840\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 3:44 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESix pieces of advice and only one of them involves touching a camera? 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class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022James Tarry avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358992620\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/JT__photography\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EJames Tarry\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83678\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358992620\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 8:57 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003Egotta agree with you here Scott....\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 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Cushman\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358977140\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/sacushman\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EScott Cushman\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83673\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358977140\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 4:39 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EJust yesterday, a friend who is a wedding organizer was telling me about a photographer she\u0027d worked with over the weekend. He showed up late, not dressed appropriately for a wedding, spent far longer one-on-one with the bride than expected which meant he never got the list of group shots the mother-in-law had requested (making her upset), and had a bit of an attitude throughout. It was a bad experience overall. I restrained myself from saying, \u0022well, you could have hired me instead ...\u0022\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EFrom her story and so many others I\u0027ve heard (and not just about weddings), I\u0027d add the advice that a photographer should always be punctual, polite and situationally appropriate. 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class=\u0022indented\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv data-comment-user-id=\u00220\u0022 id=\u0022comment-83677\u0022 class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-83677 comment js-comment by-anonymous\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/1f5369fbd33ab27c7102f5e0f9e316b9.jpg?s=70\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022the_pro_amateur avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358990760\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003Ethe_pro_amateur\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83677\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358990760\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 8:26 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/originals\/six-things-every-beginning-photographer-should-know-3612#comment-83673\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Scott Cushman\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Scott Cushman\u003C\/a\u003E\n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EBut he was a PROFESSIONAL and BUDGET FRIENDLY, just like me! \u0026nbsp;That\u0027s what brides want.\u003Cbr\u003E\nIt doesn\u0027t matter if we steal real photographer\u0027s images, act like a spoiled kid, or don\u0027t read our manuals. \u0026nbsp;We blow all our Walmart money on booze and video games, so we need the cash from these super easy weddings. \u0026nbsp;Refer to my list above. \u0026nbsp;Just use actions and have no overhead. \u0026nbsp;You won\u0027t believe how many compliments I get from my mom and high 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\u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/graph.facebook.com\/100000452007951\/picture?width=70\u0026amp;height=70\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Jozef Povazan avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221358987880\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=100000452007951\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EJozef Povazan\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83675\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221358987880\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 7:38 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EA nonsense advice for beginners. When they follow your advice they feel they are already PRO and that is exactly what is happening around us now. Every one is a photographer! I teach photo workshops and shoot commercial photography. If you want to give this kind of advice to a staring mechanic who just bought a first wrench key, well I doubt you will go and see him when your car breaks down, even thou he has a website, images on flickr, works for free etc.... The KNOWLEDGE of the craft one should be able to offer is MISSING boy. THINK and then write :) or you encourage them to feel the way they should not feel yet. Step by step like baby when from crawling comes walking, hitting walls and then finally running around with D4+85f1.4 :) That is the way I can see it on my workshops and people love it and follow the advices...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 83675}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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id=\u0022comment-83685\u0022 class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-83685 comment js-comment by-anonymous\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022David Crockett avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359018480\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/david.crockett.71\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDavid Crockett\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83685\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359018480\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 4:08 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI totally agree with you WELL SAID!!! Advice #1 should be LEARN YOUR CRAFT!!! 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\u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Lucy Merriman avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359003420\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/LucyM121\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003ELucy Merriman\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83680\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 23, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359003420\u0022\u003EJanuary 23, 2013 - 11:57 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ETo everyone who\u0027s saying the first piece of advice should be, \u0022learn the craft,\u0022 isn\u0027t that obvious? Maybe he wanted to give practical advice to enthusiastic beginners who\u0027ve already learned how to photograph, at least to an extent, and want to make the jump from student to professional.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ELike he said in the first paragraph, the students and aspiring photographers were looking for advice on \u0022breaking into\u0022 the business. So this is solid advice right here.\u0026nbsp;\u003Cbr\u003E\nI know from my standpoint as a writer, I get annoyed whenever people say to novice writers, \u0022write every day, read a lot of books.\u0022 Well duh. 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359018720\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/david.crockett.71\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDavid Crockett\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83686\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359018720\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 4:12 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENo it is not obvious! There are too many people out there, WAY too many people, that buy a camera and start calling themselves photographers. It\u0027s sickening! I\u0027ve talked to \u0022professional photographers\u0022 that don\u0027t even know what and aperture is let alone how to light something professionally! 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2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359147060\u0022\u003EJanuary 25, 2013 - 3:51 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt is obvious.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnd if some clients like or choose those \u0022professionals\u0022 over you, who knows what is an aperture, then the fault lies with the clients, not with the photographer, and even less with the people who gives the advice of \u0022having flickr\u0022.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EShow them you are best with your images, not with you mouth (or keyboard).\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field 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class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359018840\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/david.crockett.71\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDavid Crockett\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83687\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359018840\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 4:14 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThis post is completely inappropriate! This is not the place to make people look bad! 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\u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Lorenzo P avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359030360\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/Too_Creative\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003ELorenzo P\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83689\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 24, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359030360\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 7:26 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI am definitely sharing this!!! 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data-livestamp=\u00221359059640\u0022\u003EJanuary 24, 2013 - 3:34 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESpecialise, dont shoot everything. \u0026nbsp;And dont shoot for free...\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Debra Tidd avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359364680\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/twitter.com\/DebraTidd76\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EDebra Tidd\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83697\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 28, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359364680\u0022\u003EJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:18 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EDo shoot for free! You do not advertise that you are doing work for free. You seek out people directly and make them an offer.\u003Cbr\u003E\nShooting for free is intended for the group of people that support your\u003Cbr\u003E\ncareer choice and will advertise the work for you and will purchase the\u003Cbr\u003E\nwork you create. You do the shoot for free with permissions to use the\u003Cbr\u003E\nwork for promoting your business, offering them a small sample of the\u003Cbr\u003E\nwork you create...if they are your support...they will purchase from you\u003Cbr\u003E\n and will tell others!\u0026nbsp; If your work is not good...then they won\u0027t...you\u003Cbr\u003E\nneed help with more than marketing.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: 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data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359398160\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EEddieClark2\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83698\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 28, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359398160\u0022\u003EJanuary 28, 2013 - 1:36 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESince there are so many unqualified opinions here, let me qualify my statement with this fact; I am a professional photographer making a living through my photography, and do not have a second job waiting tables or whatever to pay my bills. \u0026nbsp;I also love what I do.\u003Cbr\u003E\nWorking for free is a good way to end up not working as a photographer. \u0026nbsp;It says you don\u0027t value your photography (because it\u0027s probably bad), and it undercuts all the real pros who can provide good work all the time (this will maybe be YOU someday). \u0026nbsp;Taking on what should be a paying job for free or cheap is not necessary for becoming a better photographer, and especially not for succeeding- since when did any successful business not charge for their services or product? \u0026nbsp;\u003Cbr\u003E\nCreating a solid portfolio and becoming better at photography requires education (formal and\/or informal), honest peer review (NOT Facebook friends and family \u0027likes\u0027), and practice practice practice by taking thousands and thousands and thousands of photos. \u0026nbsp;Do join a real professional photography organization or association to learn and support your trade. \u0026nbsp;\u003Cbr\u003E\nBecoming a full-time photographer 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class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/default_images\/no-avatar_1.jpg\u0022 width=\u002270\u0022 height=\u002270\u0022 alt=\u0022Ashley avatar\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221359708300\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n \u003Cspan rel=\u0022nofollow ugc\u0022 href=\u0022http:\/\/profile.yahoo.com\/SLXGYO4SYFWJQ7QUOQQBVRODL4\u0022 class=\u0022username no-user\u0022\u003EAshley\u003C\/span\u003E\n \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-83700\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Feb 01, 2013\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221359708300\u0022\u003EFebruary 1, 2013 - 3:45 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n \n \n \u003C\/div\u003E\n \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n \n \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI once read a piece of advice about turning a profit that has stuck with me for months since I read it. When first starting out, as a BEGINNING photographer (since that is the audience that this article is aimed at), try to book shoots for friends or relatives in which you are going to use as practice and to build a portfolio. As an amateur it isn\u0027t expected that your work would be worth as much value as an experienced photographer. Then, as your skills increase as well as the demand for them, start charging. Small amounts at first, so people don\u0027t have to worry about dishing out a ton of money for a relatively new photographer\u0027s work. When the demand is high enough to make you competitive, or even overwhelmed in those requesting your services, bump up your prices again as you have now become worth it to the customers to pay extra for if it means guaranteeing you for a shoot. Keep doing this over and over as you become more established and demanded. Start small, maybe $20 a shoot, then $40, then $60, then $100, then $500 or more to weed out those who are not willing to pay as much for your services and to better meet the needs of those who are. I did not come up with this but I do find that it makes the most sense! As a beginning photographer I can\u0027t imagine charging others for my services when they are not worth much at the moment, but who\u0027s to say that in six months after taking classes and practicing that I won\u0027t be worth more? If I become a skilled photographer then I can charge an appropriate amount at that time, if the demand is high enough to keep customers around after a price increase. Use your skills and prices as a filter. 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