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Omg you bullsh*t \u0022purists\u0022 ruin everything.\u003Cbr\u003E\nI take a picture of something, I do what I want with it. Its my photo. Editing is 900000% worse than replacing the sky. Yet every single landscape photographer will edit their work then cry about someone else, devaluing others art because they want to be better under the excuse of \u0022Ethics\u0022 and \u0022reality\u0022. There is nothing real about your luminosity masks. 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163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n user-231180\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EMost of us are probably raw shooters. Raw *must* be processed, or edited, or call it what you will. When I started I shot JPEGs, yet edited or reprocessed every picture I showed. I can\u0027t NOT edit. The onboard algorithm that spits out the SOOC JPEG was written by an engineer, not necessarily a photographer. I never grok those who insist you must \u0022Get It Right In The Camera.\u0022 Wut? \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnsel Adams said, \u0022Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships.\u0022 If you\u0027ve ever seen the straight print of his famed Moonrise, Hernandez, it\u0027s awful. It\u0027s flat, muddy, just bad. He only had time to get one exposure before the light went, he underestimated it, then underdeveloped it. Today it is arguably his single most famous picture, EDITED to a fare-thee-well. 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\u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622333408\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-318410\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDouglas Elick\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683296\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 29, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622333408\u0022\u003EMay 29, 2021  - 8:10 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/landscapes\/sky-replacement-ethical-landscape-photography-564310#comment-683227\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to user-231180\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply 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do you figure? 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               \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/landscapes\/sky-replacement-ethical-landscape-photography-564310#comment-683296\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Douglas Elick\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Douglas Elick\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on May 31, 2021\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EProbably what he does to begin with. 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user-231180\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n user-231180\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThis is not about ethics or truth. It is about too much easy eye candy. Photos become kitsch. The same people obsessed with impressing strangers with purple skies are the same people who do not print, and argue they have small walls, and thus less megapixel cameras are better.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up tipped-updown\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00221\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 683387}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Patricia Figueroa\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on Jun 01, 2021\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI purchased an Eizo monitor, and have used the same Epson 7880 since 2014, (without ever experiencing a clog). I make books from scratch. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI sometimes make composite-images as I may be unhappy with an original composition. I will indicate it is a composite image in the credit. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI also build fake edges: if an image is to be printed with a full bleed, but there\u2019s important information that will be cut off, I will spend the time to build a fake edge, which will ultimately be cut off, but the nature of offset printing and bleeds cannot be determined when dealing with an eighth of an inch. This has sometimes taken hours if that data on the edge is really important, like in the case when someone is entering the frame and you\u2019re going to lose part of their face.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EWhen I used to work in a dark room, I created a rotating burning card, which was a 14 inch circle of two pieces of matte board, one solid with a single opening, and one that had various holes cut into it, so I could rotate it and choose various sized circular holes or rectangles or squares or triangles etc., This was really respected within my dark room community. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EFinally, have you ever heard of printing out papers? This is a very slow, 3 ISO printing out paper for large format negatives. Because these papers are so slow, and an 8 x 10 black and white negative could be quite dense in silver, one could actually take this outside in the sun, and burn and dodge with one\u2019s hands. This was a common practice. Neither of the last two examples allowed one to replace the sky or put in feathery clouds that didn\u2019t exist. 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class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622333552\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-318410\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDouglas Elick\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683294\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 29, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622332948\u0022\u003EMay 29, 2021  - 8:02 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on May 29, 2021\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAnsel\u0027s or any \u0022Found View\u0022 photographer\u0027s dodging and burning, use of (lens) filters, choice of developer, film and paper all fell under \u0022adjusting exposure and contrast\u0022.  There\u0027s simply no questioning that this is completely unlike inserting a fake sky which is just a new way to perform the age old process of *compositing*.   \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnsel, Cartie-Bresson, Weston, Bourke-White, Lange, etc. all showed you slices of actual reality.  They had creative freedom to interpret the contrast, shadow, perspective, sharpness and such as they saw fit, but it was still a depiction of a slice in time that actually existed. Even blurry, dreamy pictorialist photos that were the rage before Ansel and the f64 group\u0027s realism focus were still capturing interpretations of something that was actually there.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIt begs the question, \u0022When does it cease to become photography and become something else\u0022?  I don\u0027t think anyone can seriously argue that composited, retouched or otherwise radically altered images can\u0027t be art, but it\u0027s a real strain to say they\u0027re the result of photography, I.E., a photograph.  \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EPhotography at it\u0027s very heart is the act of capturing slices of the physical world, recording photons bouncing off of our surroundings. There\u0027s still a general expectation that photographs reflect what \u0022the thing\u0022 was like at an instant in time.  I think that  when artists drift into the realm of creating images that simply never existed in reality, it\u0027s no longer a photograph, but something else.  \u0022Graphic art\u0022 might be a good choice of words. Or maybe \u0022visual remixes\u0022?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003ERegardless of the debate, which side of it you fall on, because there\u0027s still a reasonable expectation from most people that a *photograph* should depict a real thing or happening, it\u0027s simply unethical when one fails to disclose they\u0027ve manipulated an image into something that never existed. In this light,bringing paintings into the conversation as an example simply doesn\u0027t hold water. Few people have any expectation that the average painting should or does depict reality.  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svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Douglas Elick\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI agree. It\u0027s a moment. The experience of being there, then. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EThe word \u0027photography\u0027 is based on \u0027photon\u0027.   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class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622388531\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-356468\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EKent DuFault\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683375\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 30, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622388531\u0022\u003EMay 30, 2021  - 11:28 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAs a lifelong photographer dating back to 1975- why is everyone obsessed with replacing skies? It makes no sense to me. Plus, since most photographers aren\u2019t trained anymore or have a developed sense of light and shadow, they change the sky to something that doesn\u2019t match.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up tipped-updown\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00221\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 683375}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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data-comment-user-id=\u0022357465\u0022 id=\u0022comment-683452\u0022 class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-683452 comment js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-357465\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img avatar-fallback image-style-square-small\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/b80deb478f5fbb98a3868aaf58d622fb.jpg?s=100\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Harald Engels\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622432456\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-357465\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EHarald Engels\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683452\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 30, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622432333\u0022\u003EMay 30, 2021  - 11:38 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \u003Cspan class=\u0022edited\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022This comment was edited on May 30, 2021\u0022\u003E[Edited]\u003C\/span\u003E\n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWrong question: Sky replacement is not landscape photography but landscape media editing (or manipulation). What has a sky replacement to do with photography? 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js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-361079\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img avatar-fallback image-style-square-small\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/e6943bc737b44eafe08bddeeed3c94ab.jpg?s=100\u0026amp;d=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.fstoppers.com%2Fdefault_images%2Fno-avatar_1.jpg\u0026amp;r=g\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Patricia Figueroa\u0022 \/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n         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field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhile I do try to keep an open mind as to how photographers approach their art, I do have a slight issue of the terminology being used. In my opinion, once an image has been altered to more than just basic adjustments, it shouldn\u2019t simply be referred to, or presented as a photograph. One wouldn\u2019t simply call something a painting if there are also image cutouts pasted onto the canvas (a friend of mine does this kind of art) at that point it\u2019ll be called a mixed-media art.\u003Cbr\u003E\nIt\u2019s my personal belief that part of what makes for a great nature photographer is developing the skill of being able to choose the right gear, location, and composition in order to translate in the photograph the beauty that they see in front of them. The fact that you\u2019d have to wait for (or be out in ungodly hours) just for the right light, weather condition, or for the \u201cstars to align\u201d in order to capture \u201cthat moment\u201d, can\u2019t be equated to digital sky replacement. But, if they do choose\/have to use composite, they should be upfront and always disclose how the photo was manipulated to represent what they are aiming for in the outcome (whether they are asked to or not). In my opinion, that would be the \u2018ethical\u2019 thing to do.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EBut then again, maybe this is because I\u2019m a landscape photographer who heavily leans on the \u201cNat Geo Rule\u201d.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up tipped-updown\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00223\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 683462}}\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-thumbs-up 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data-comment-user-id=\u0022333200\u0022 id=\u0022comment-683499\u0022 class=\u0022js-ajax-comments-id-683499 comment js-comment\u0022\u003E\n  \n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__content\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Cheader class=\u0022comment__meta\u0022\u003E\n        \u003Cspan class=\u0022avatar-wrapper\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022user-avatar\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-user-picture\u0022\u003E\n              \u003Ca href=\u0022\/u\/user-333200\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022\u003E\u003Cimg class=\u0022avatar-img\u0022 data-gridzyignore=\u00221\u0022 loading=\u0022lazy\u0022 src=\u0022https:\/\/cdn.fstoppers.com\/styles\/square_small\/s3\/avatars\/2020\/11\/troll.jpg?itok=p6_uuH7v\u0022 width=\u0022100\u0022 height=\u0022100\u0022 alt=\u0022User picture for Mark F\u0022 \/\u003E\n\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622472644\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-333200\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EMark F\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683499\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 31, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622472644\u0022\u003EMay 31, 2021  - 10:50 am\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ELet\u2019s go back to before digital manipulation: would we accept taking out the scissors and cutting the sky from one photo and, literally, gluing it on top of another image? Art or photography? It\u2019s collage, to me. Sky replacement is a composite of two images; that\u2019s not photography anymore. That\u2019s art with photography as your medium.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EHowever, I\u2019m in the camp of, disclose on a \u201cneed to know\u201d, basis. Journalism or photo contests are examples never misrepresenting a photograph. Disclose the truth if anyone asks, I say. 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5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Mark F\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhen I was in commercial photography school about 1971, one assignment was to do a \u0022pasteup,\u0022 indeed a photo collage. We were to shoot a structure under construction, then \u0022finish\u0022 it, using bits of the original to replace windows or whatever, and photographing lawns and flower borders and driveways, being mindful of the direction of the light \u0026amp;c. Of 30-odd students, I was one of two who actually finished the thing. We were given the assignment because we were assured that this was a skill sometimes needed by commercial photographers, maybe to produce a picture for an architect to use instead of a rendering. This project is where I started collecting \u0022cloud negatives\u0022 and still do. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMy point is that this was once a legitimate commercial process. Maybe it is why I don\u0027t lose my cool over sky replacement, or most other manipulations. \u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EI COMPLETELY  AGREE that it is and should be forbidden for journalists and forensic photographers. 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221622480775\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/alexarmitage\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAlex Armitage\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683517\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 31, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622480775\u0022\u003EMay 31, 2021  - 1:06 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/landscapes\/sky-replacement-ethical-landscape-photography-564310#comment-683505\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Charles Haacker\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg 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data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/dave-palmer\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EDave Palmer\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-683508\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022May 31, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221622476974\u0022\u003EMay 31, 2021  - 12:02 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ETo me it depends on what I\u2019m producing.  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\/\u003E\n\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\n\n\n        \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221624246029\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-191097\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EColin Barnett\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-686117\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jun 20, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221624246029\u0022\u003EJune 20, 2021  - 11:27 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIf the foreground and midground is a lake in Michigan, and the sky is from Florida, how do you answer the question: \u0022Where was this photo taken?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAnother question: Suppose I take a beautiful sky but the land is drab. 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\u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221624311713\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/alexarmitage\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EAlex Armitage\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-686195\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jun 21, 2021\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221624311713\u0022\u003EJune 21, 2021  - 5:41 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \u003Ca href=\u0022https:\/\/fstoppers.com\/landscapes\/sky-replacement-ethical-landscape-photography-564310#comment-686117\u0022 class=\u0022parent-author\u0022 title=\u0022In response to Colin Barnett\u0022\u003E \u003Cspan  class=\u0022icon-reply svg-icon\u0022\u003E\u003Csvg xmlns=\u0022http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\u0022 viewBox=\u00220 0 512 512\u0022\u003E\u003Cpath d=\u0022M205 34.8c11.5 5.1 19 16.6 19 29.2l0 64 112 0c97.2 0 176 78.8 176 176c0 113.3-81.5 163.9-100.2 174.1c-2.5 1.4-5.3 1.9-8.1 1.9c-10.9 0-19.7-8.9-19.7-19.7c0-7.5 4.3-14.4 9.8-19.5c9.4-8.8 22.2-26.4 22.2-56.7c0-53-43-96-96-96l-96 0 0 64c0 12.6-7.4 24.1-19 29.2s-25 3-34.4-5.4l-160-144C3.9 225.7 0 217.1 0 208s3.9-17.7 10.6-23.8l160-144c9.4-8.5 22.9-10.6 34.4-5.4z\u0022\/\u003E\u003C\/svg\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E\n Colin Barnett\u003C\/a\u003E\n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EMake what you want and be truthful in your answer. \u0022It\u0027s from Florida and Michigan!\u0022 I\u0027d be very 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class=\u0022comment__submitted\u0022\u003E\n          \u003Cmark class=\u0022hidden new\u0022 data-comment-timestamp=\u00221642699807\u0022 data-tooltip=\u0022New Comment\u0022\u003E\u003C\/mark\u003E\n          \u003Ca title=\u0022View user profile.\u0022 href=\u0022\/u\/user-376606\u0022 rel=\u0022ugc\u0022 class=\u0022username\u0022\u003EGreg Trosper\u003C\/a\u003E\n          \u003Ca href=\u0022#comment-707870\u0022 class=\u0022date\u0022 title=\u0022Jan 20, 2022\u0022 data-livestamp=\u00221642699807\u0022\u003EJanuary 20, 2022  - 12:30 pm\u003C\/a\u003E\n        \u003C\/div\u003E\n                  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022comment__submitted comment__parent\u0022\u003E\n            \n            \n                                  \u003C\/div\u003E\n                              \u003C\/header\u003E\n\n      \u003Cdiv class=\u0022content\u0022\u003E\n                \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003ESeems pretty simple - be honest.\u003Cbr\u003E\nIf you\u0027re selling to a client and they know ANYTHING about photography they\u0027ll assume there\u0027s post processing \/ editing with their pic\u0027s anyway so it shouldn\u0027t be a shocker when you inform them that you have swapped \/ layered \/ focus stacked \/ what have you. For them it\u0027s all about liking the pic they paid for and past that - your \u0022ethical obligation\u0022 ends. They won\u0027t be telling the viewing public how \/ why \/ and with what equipment it was made with anyway...\u003Cbr\u003E\nIf it\u0027s a hobby pic posted online I think one should inform the viewer that post production edits took place at the very least - if not in greater detail. When you\u0027re posting as a hobbyist (or even a pro just sharing) I assume you are not only \u0022bragging\u0022 but trying to further the craft and it IS helpful for those less experienced to know at least the basics of how a great pic was made. It cost\u0027s nothing more than a few keystrokes and considering the time \u0026amp; effort put into post production of said pic it\u0027s little to no effort on our part. I never understood the attitude toward trying to \u0022hide\u0022 what happened behind the pic - there\u0027s skill and craftwork that goes into post production \/ editing that while being a different kind of skillset from shooting the initial image is still a skillset nonetheless.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003C\/div\u003E\n      \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003C\/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022links-wrapper clearfix\u0022\u003E\n      \n      \n            \u003Cdiv class=\u0022field field--name-field-updown field--type-voting-api-field field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022votingapi-widgets updown read_only\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv  class=\u0022updown-buttons-container\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Cdiv class=\u0022updown-button\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Ca class=\u0022updown-up no-votes\u0022 href=\u0022#\u0022 data-vote-value=\u00221\u0022 data-vote-count=\u00220\u0022 data-tipped-options=\u0022ajax: {data: {vote_value: \u00271\u0027, entity_type: \u0027comment\u0027, entity_id: 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field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field__item\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003EI happen to agree with the writer: claim the freedom to create whatever images you want while being open and honest about your work. I have been shooting a bunch of subjects with a bunch of gear for over 50 years. in 2000 and up to 2008, I joined the circuit of the main art and craft festivals in the NE. I (also) had a series of prints of thin flowers photographed on top of a lightbox with additional lights on the sides. I kept the exposure high enough that the thinnest parts of the flowers faded into the light. Then I removed some detail in Photoshop and enhanced the edges. The prints on inkjet cold press paper looked similar to watercolors. The prints sold quite well (up to 24x36\u0022, $400.00 each) with \u0022normal\u0022 people loving the prints for their sheer beauty and many photographers and painters adding interest and admiration for the process. 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