Lee Morris Responds To The iPhone Fashion Shoot

Wow, the iPhone fashion video has really blown up over the past few days. The video has been viewed by almost 300,000 people as I write this. My 3 websites have been completely crippled for the past 2 days. So crippled in fact that we couldn’t even login to create/edit posts.

As with anything controversial brought into the lime light there will be people on both sides. I have received countless comments and emails thanking me for this video but this video may have gotten even more negative comments. At first I tried to respond to everyone individually but that quickly became impossible. Last night I read a very well written post on macgasm.net named “Why the 3Gs fashion shoot is misleading” by Joshua Schnell.

In this post I will comment on every point I have read brought up about my video.

I’ll start with the biggest complaint: Lighting.

First I will quote a paragraph out of my original post that I am sure most of the haters never read: “So before I say anything else let me start by saying; I created this video to simply show that you should not be limited by your camera. Obviously there was a lot that went into this shoot including a professional model, hair and makeup, a studio, lighting, and a retoucher. We may create another video in the future where we shoot with only natural light but this video is simply about the camera. There are so many photographers who are obsessed with noise, sharpness, color, dynamic range, megapixels, chromatic aberration, moire, distortion, etc. So many photographers get wrapped up in the technical side that they forget how to take compelling images. This video is for them.”

I believe I made it clear that this video was only supposed to show the limitations of a terrible camera giving it the best possible chance of success. I understand however that I did say “you don’t need fancy lights” at the beginning of the video and then I used fancy lights. Yes, Dyna-lite strobes and power packs are expensive but they are expensive because they are strobes. We didn’t even use them correctly… we were only using the underpowered modeling lights that were 200 watt bulbs. The lights we got from Lowe’s were actually much brighter and for $50 we got 2 lights and stands. I believe my most complicated lighting setup used 6 lights so if you were to do it yourself it would cost $150.

“But Lee! You have all of those light modifiers as well!” It’s true, I do, but all these products are doing is making the light smaller or larger. That is what hard and soft light is, small or large light sources relative to the size of the subject. You can modify light with anything. You could have up a huge bed sheet and fire light through it or you could bounce light off of a wall. You could simply move the bare bulb lights closer or farther away from the subject.

It was hard enough doing a full photoshoot with a cell phone and I didn’t want to complicate it even more by buying cheap lights that I didn’t need when I already had perfectly good modeling lights. I also didn’t have time to create homemade light modifiers when I already owned the real deal. Just because I didn’t do it in the video doesn’t mean that it isn’t possible. But remember, lighting wasn’t the point anyway. This was supposed to be about the camera.

Someone else commented “I’d like to see you go outside without any of that light and take a good picture with the iPhone.” Are you kidding? That would be even easier because there is a fantastic light outside that is free called the sun. I take pictures professionally all the time and I don’t bring a single light or reflector with me. There have been millions of great images taken outside with cell phones. I wanted to do something new so I shot a studio session and of course that is going to require lighting.

Someone on Youtube commented “If you take away all of that lighting the pictures wouldn’t look as good.” My head almost exploded when I read this. OF COURSE! Photography is all about lighting. If I didn’t have any lighting in my studio the pictures wouldn’t just look bad, they would be black.

One reader, attempting to be smart, wrote this in our comments “…next time (you’re) snapping pix round town with your iPhone – bring two huge flood lights…” and Joshua Schnell, in his Macgasm article wrote: “Not exactly something an everyday iPhone user would have kicking around their apartment, is it?” referring to my lighting gear. These are not your every day type of pictures, this was a professional session.

This brings me to my next point: This video was created for professionals.

Fstoppers.com is a website dedicated to showing professional behind the scenes videos of photoshoots. A couple weeks ago we did a poll and only 2.6% of our readers do not own a DSLR. Only 1.7% of our readers were not interested in photography and just happened to stumble across our site. That means that almost 95% of our readers are either pros or serious amateur photographers. This video was created for them, not the average iPhone user. Why would the average iPhone user ever even want to take fashion photography?

I read a comment on DPreview that said “I don’t like the fact that he is suggesting that you can work professionally with just an iPhone.” Of course I am not suggesting that, and I have no idea why any adult would think that. This video was supposed to be a fun humors video that simply inspires you to stop making excuses and start working on your craft.

If I was going to create a video for normal iPhone users about how to take good pictures I would have gone outside in the shade and taken “normal” pictures. Obviously this video was geared towards other professionals.

Point number 3: “You said I could do this for cheap but then you spent a ton of money.”

You CAN do this type of shoot for cheap but I actually did it for free. People everywhere have been complaining that they could never afford hair and makeup and a professional model. Guess what, I have NEVER paid for them. If your work is good enough then you should easily find people to collaborate with. Obviously this doesn’t just happen. You have to prove yourself first. I can still remember my first fashion shoot. The model had never modeled before and she did her own hair and makeup. After that shoot though I had something to show people. After a couple years of quality shoots I now can call up local talent and ask them to be a part of ridiculous shoots (like those taken on a cell phone) and they are eager to help.

Point number 4: You don’t need a professional retoucher.

Guess how many time in my entire career I have used a professional retoucher?…ONCE, and this was it. Pratik is an amazing retoucher and the reason I asked him to be a part of this was really just for the novelty. He is used to working on super high end fashion images that will be seen on magazine covers and his skills cannot really be used on a 3mp cell phone image. If there was ever a shoot where I was capable of doing my own retouching it was this shoot but since he agreed, I was excited to see his work and help promote his business. Remember the 2nd image in each series was his and the 3rd was my final edit. If you argue that I shouldn’t have used photoshop then chances are, you are not a professional photographer, and are not the intended audience of this video. And, I knew people would argue this so I put the original images in the video just for them… If you don’t like photoshop then pay not attention to the edited images. I will quote another paragraph from my original post: “People may claim that the original images don’t look that great but I was shooting with the intent of using Photoshop afterwards. If the backdrop paper didn’t fill the frame I knew I could easily fix it afterwards. With today’s market being what it is I see Photoshop as a necessary tool for every image I make. I am in the business of making money and my clients do not care if I got it perfect in the camera or made it perfect in post, they simply want a perfect image. It’s the same process with music. A band could record and entire album in 1 take, but what successful artist does that? Today, everyone records track by track one at a time and use software to combine them all together into a perfect mix.”

Closing

I am thrilled with the response we have gotten from this video. I am glad that professionals, amateurs, and iPhone users have enjoyed watching it. The sad truth is that the average person is more likely to comment on an internet video these days if they have something negative to say. If they actually liked the video they have a better chance of not commenting but sharing it with friends, and that is what hundreds of thousands of people have already done.

If you are not a serious photographer then you should simply watch this video and be entertained by the fact that your cell phone camera isn’t too bad. There is no way you are going to be able to take studio photography with your phone or any camera without some sort of lights. But that is fine, you don’t need to take studio shots. Just remember that you can always work to take better pictures, no matter how bad your camera is. We are very thankful that you took the time to view our video. It was a good bit of work to produce and it’s fun to see such a huge response.

If you are a serious amateur or an overly techy professional I really created this video for you. Obviously (at least I think it is obvious) I am not suggesting that you can do professional work with a cell phone camera. This video was created to simply put things in perspective. The people that view your work whether they are friends, family, or a paying client, do not view your work the same way you do. We love to be overly critical about photographs but it is important that we don’t loose sight of the image itself. I have taken some shots that I have absolutely loved in the past and nobody else liked them; I took these pictures on my cell phone and some people said they were the best images I had ever taken (before they knew how I took them).

I will leave you with my favorite comment I have read so far. This comment comes from the most critical and technical photography forum on the net, DP Review. “These are obviously taken on a cell phone, the dynamic range cannot compete with my Canon.” I tried guys…. I tried.

July 8, 2010 - 9:58 am

Richard Stokes - “no good deed goes unpunished”.

You made a fun video for the fans of your website. It got picked up by a major blog, hundreds of thousands views later, you got a few hater comments. Don’t worry about them, they couldn’t make a printable 4×6 with a D3X.

Keep the videos coming, I could only hope to make 1 image as good as your iPhone shoot.

July 8, 2010 - 10:09 am

Alex No Logo - Don’t worry Lee, those who have been reading Fstoppers since its beggining know what you wanted to show, creativy is endless and people should be less obsessed about technical quality and more about artistical or creative quality of a photoshoot.
This kind of experiment has worked, and it’s a really cool video, dont waste your time by replying people who doesn’t even own a DSLR or are just behind the screen freaks…they won’t understand that photography is not just about cameras, gear, lighting and mpix, it’s ART, it’s PASSION!

July 8, 2010 - 10:22 am

BotSO - The whole point is – the camera (and gear) is irrelevant. It’s the vision and execution that matters. Take the tools you have available to you and get out and shoot!

I loved the video. Thanks for taking the the risk.

July 8, 2010 - 10:25 am

Von Wong - Great post =]

I think you addressed the questions extremely well! As a semi-pro photographer, I enjoyed the video a lot. Doesn’t change the fact that I want a 65 MP hassie =P

July 8, 2010 - 10:32 am

Manu - I can say that i liked some points of the video and some i don’t, but the must important thing is that you made a video, you made a proposal with it and the internet community debate about it.

Very good work, you made people talk about your work.

A friend of my once told me that the best camera is the eye of the photographer (anything else is vanity) ;)

July 8, 2010 - 10:33 am

Angela - I truly enjoyed the video. I found it humorous and inspiring. I am a amateur photographer and my Canon DSLR actually stopped working a few days ago. Since then I have been using my iPhone for my normal everyday shots of my life and kids with a lot of photoshop. LOL! I know it’s unprofessional but these are for myself, so I’m not sweating it. However upon seeing you video I laughed seeing to what extent you pushed yourself with the iPhone camera, and made me feel a little better about myself using mine for the time being, till my DSLR is up and going again.
Now on to the people viewing this video with the intent of doing a shoot with an iPhone, not being a professional, and complaining about lights! BE REAL PEOPLE!!!!

July 8, 2010 - 10:51 am

David Peacock - For the record, I ‘got it’, and I’m absolutely amazed that you got any negative reaction at all!

Mad world.

Keep up the great work! :-)

July 8, 2010 - 10:53 am

Goodspeed - I´ve enjoyed the video. This and similar videos help me look behind my borders and boost my creativity with the whole technology.

July 8, 2010 - 10:55 am

Lee - Thanks Manu,

I have no problem if people don’t like my images or the video. My issue falls with people who are negative just for the sake of being negative without even attempting to learn about what is really going on.

I welcome everyones comments, whether they be positive or negative.

July 8, 2010 - 10:56 am

Jayce - I really enjoyed your video about using the iphone in a fashion shoot, it really did out things in perspective for me. The video made me stop and think about my own camera and wonder why ive been saying if only i had the Canon 5D.. thats not the case, the only way my photography is going to improve is with my vision. That is something you have to work on if you want to produce excellent images. Thanks again, i love your site and your message! thanks Lee

July 8, 2010 - 10:57 am

Matt - Completely agree with your rebuttals and I completely understood what you were proving. I did the same thing with a friend’s 5mp canon consumer camera the other day on the water to prove it is not the camera that makes the images.

Great Video! You should not have had to defend the process or make it clear for those who lack the intelligence to understand what you were doing.

July 8, 2010 - 10:58 am

ShakaM - WELL SAID MY BOY!!

July 8, 2010 - 11:01 am

Martin Moore - I am a photographer. Please see these links:

iPhone 3G photography:

http://martinmoorephotography.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/iphone-photography-3/

iPhone 4 Photography:

http://martinmoorephotography.wordpress.com/2010/07/04/iphone-photography-carnival-lights/

The only thing I did was edit the photos in Aperture 3. All editing I did in Aperture 3. I also could have done with a $1.99 app.

Lee is correct, just because you went out and bought a new DSLR doesn’t mean it’s going to take great pictures for you. First and foremost you need and eye for great shots and great angles. Second you need to be able to take advantage of any light available for the shot, the iPhone image sensor struggles with low light. Finally, you need to know how to edit photos. This is all stuff that is learned. Neither myself, Lee or any other photographer was born knowing how to take great photos. So don’t get frustrated and miss the entire point of what Lee was trying to show us. It’s not about the camera. It’s not about the camera. It’s not about the camera!

July 8, 2010 - 11:06 am

Ryan Nanca - Dude, you did an amazing job. All of the people who complain about it are totally missing the point. Obviously they don’t know that all of this can be done with standard lightbulbs and bed sheets.

I agree that the world has gotten too tech crazy. I mean, it’s good to want the latest and greatest to help your business, but some people take the pixel peeping and tech whoring to a whole new level.

I’ve become a huge fan of this site and I hope to be able to contribute something in the future.

July 8, 2010 - 11:07 am

Johann Kwan - I thought the video was fantastic, myself. Made me want to go out and buy more strobes, anyway. =D

July 8, 2010 - 11:09 am

slayerphoto - “These are obviously taken on a cell phone, the dynamic range cannot compete with my Canon.” – Haaa that’s a good one!

I really (well I’ll say softly), don’t like those guys who are freaking out on technology, pixel peaking everything and so on, and absolutely forgot how to take cool pictures, maybe not so technically ideal but, as I always say if it looks good I don’t care about the noise in the blue channel :)

Your video has inspired me to focus on the creativity of the photo shoot, not the technical stuff, and I don’t care if the highlights are blown out, if it looks good let it stay.

Thanks guys, hope to see some creative videos from you soon !

July 8, 2010 - 11:12 am

Al - Just for the record…I loved it!!!

July 8, 2010 - 11:16 am

Nick Dillon - Lee, I have to say this is one of the best videos about photography I have ever seen and the perfect antidote to those fixated on speeds and feeds of cameras rather than the art of photography itself. I am amazed that so many people got the wrong end of the stick and didn’t get your rationale for making the video, but fair play to you for writing this post and addressing their (generally misplaced) comments.

Keep up the good work!
Nick

July 8, 2010 - 12:01 pm

Stevers - I think it was an excellent video and really showed how amazing the camera on the iPhone 3GS is. I never would have thought it could take pictures of that quality.
Thank you for your hard work producing the photoshoot!

July 8, 2010 - 12:03 pm

Daniel - Lee- Good job on the shoot. It was obvious what your intentions were, and so what if you used some quality light diffusers! These people with negative claims, questions, and assertions are simply out there trying to get a response out of you and your team…

Anyone with a little common sense and understanding knows what the goal of the shoot was…don’t respond to the haters (that’s what they want). Keep up the good work. (Also, when you don’t respond to haters, it eats them up….)

I have to tell you that you remind me of Andrew Kramer and that is a really cool thing! Since I found this site late last week I have been on a fstoppers high and that has led to some other discoveries and searches. Suffice it to say, you guys are my latest inspiration.

July 8, 2010 - 12:11 pm

Burt - I am one of those that did not comment earlier, but passed it on. Excellent job all the way around.

My only complaint is that your iPhone images look better than my Canon 5D MK II images. Can I get you to come to my studio? :)

July 8, 2010 - 12:13 pm

Burt - I am one of those that did not comment earlier, but passed it on. Excellent job all the way around.

My only complaint is that your iPhone images look better than my Canon 5D MK II images. Can I get you to come to my studio? :) (Your comment is awaiting moderation)

(Hope this message isn’t duplicated — web page said there was an error the first time it was submitted…)

July 8, 2010 - 12:20 pm

Jun - Lee, it’s great what you did with the iPhone. The entire video was fun and creative, and pretty enjoyable! Thumbs up to you and the entire bunch of people who were involved in the photoshoot. I’m further impressed that you are actually responding to all those major “issues” that people have raised.

Even though it’s true that having all that proper lighting, touchup etc helps in creating a really impressive finished product, the original images are really good, and at first glance they look great! So thanks for the reminder that photographers are not so much limited by their camera but just by their creativity! (And yes, I admit that I’m one of those who would lament on the limitations of my camera ;p I do try my best to have some interesting composition though!

July 8, 2010 - 12:24 pm

Greg - Kudos on the video. It was great fun, and made an excellent point. I have both an iPhone and a Nikon DSLR and never felt betrayed, not even once. I appreciate the creativity, time and effort. I found it inspiring and encouraging. It reminded me that the fun is in the process and the technical should be an enhancement not an impediment. Thanks Again!

July 8, 2010 - 12:36 pm

James - Lee,

This video was my intro to Fstoppers and I have to say it was a great intro. As a product designer I dab into photography as another creative outlet. I’ve always looked at professional photographers and thought I can never get to that level with my camera and kit lens, but this video has inspired me to go pick up my camera, adapt to my situation and work towards that level.

Thanks for the awesome and fun intro to Fstoppers and I can’t wait to see more videos…i’ve already went back and watched all of the old posts.

July 8, 2010 - 12:51 pm

Hans Rosemond - Well said. I really enjoyed the video and I’m glad you and your crew took the time out to make it. It was obviously a labor of love and it shows in the final product.

The fact that some people are upset by the video or feel that you misrepresented the capabilities of the iphone with expensive lighting is to be expected. Most of these are probably the same people who think you need a $5000 camera to take a good picture.

When I first started out I had photos published with my old Digital Rebel. I still use alienbees. You could have used a lighting setup that cost $300 and gotten the same results.

Work on the craft, everyone. Well done guys!

July 8, 2010 - 1:02 pm

Matthew - Lee, I really enjoyed your video and perhaps it’s because I’m an amateur (and not even a serious one since I have yet to buy a DSLR) but my understanding was that this was supposed to be a fun, inspirational video and for me, it achieved it’s objective. Thanks for putting this together.

July 8, 2010 - 1:08 pm

Garth - Lee,

Thanks for putting in your 2 cents worth on this subject. I’ve been reading and hearing this same old tired excuse for quite some time now. I’ve written about it in my blog but did it with $679 in equipment. If you are interested please read or point to it.

http://studio-g.cc/blog/?p=14

Namaste
Garth

July 8, 2010 - 1:08 pm

aWebJam - I thought the video was excellent. I am assuming that those who are posting negative comments and dissecting every scene of the video are the ones who have the most to gain from your video. They are still searching for a reason as to why their photos are not as good as yours.

“Fear not angry ‘togs, the camera is not your enemy”
best wishes, James

July 8, 2010 - 1:16 pm

JAG - Loved the video and the commentary. I love my iPhone and always look to get the best out of all the camera apps out there. We all know of the limitations of a “camera phone” but geez, what an improvement over just a few years ago… Your point was well made (even if there were some out there who just missed the point). No one should expect the iPhone cam to equal a DSLR. Come on… But the art of photography is in the eye of the artist. Picasso could have painted a masterpiece with a tree branch (if he wanted to). Just curious, have you (or did you) use any of the enhanced camera apps out there like Perfectly Clear, Camera Plus Pro, TiltShiftGen, TouchRetouch, Photoshop App, etc? I wonder how well your pics could be with these apps without any other “non-iPhone” post processing. I’ve seen some pretty impressive shots created only using iPhone Apps. Bottom line: loved the piece!

July 8, 2010 - 1:27 pm

Steve Galloway - Lee, dude, I think you need to look at that video and be proud of the fact you created an inspiring behind the scenes video, showing how the camera does not have to be the big scary DLSR everyone thinks.

Its obvious from your lighting and your video that only modeling bulbs and floodlights were used, and you happen to have some nifty modifiers where the rest of us would use bed sheets, or bounce of a wall or ceiling – hell i’ve used everything from tin foil to mirrors to modify lighting – my favourite method for skin retouching on older people? an extra layer of cotton muslin on the softbox.

At the end of the day your site showcases how photographers all over the world create images, and you posted a video about creating awesome images with an iphone.

You should n’t have to defend what you did. Take pride in it, cos every photographer I know or follow has been impressed. Dont let the minority get you down.

Get shooting your next video.

July 8, 2010 - 1:37 pm

Michael - Loved it. Came in from the Strobist site, stayed for the videos.

Maybe you can do “rebuttal video” with Joe McNally diffusers, shop lights, and rent the most expensive digital camera on the planet.

July 8, 2010 - 1:37 pm

Matthew Brink - I loved your video Lee and I am glad it led me to your site. It’s true that people with positive things to say don’t post them as often. Well here’s a positive comment for you! Your video made perfect sense to me and it was highly entertaining!

I love playing around with my iPhone camera even though I have a DSLR. I enjoy pushing my iPhone to see how much I can get out of it. Besides I don’t keep my DSLR in my pocket all day!

Ever tried the Hipstamatic app? – it’s good fun :)

July 8, 2010 - 1:41 pm

Jerry - Lee, keep up the good work, i am a serious amature, and found this video inspiring. It has been very educational and no where close to misleading. Keep the videos and posts coming, looking forward to future posts by you, Patrick, and everyone over at fstoppers.

July 8, 2010 - 2:07 pm

Barry Rayburn - Came to your site via a link on Strobist, so wandered into the middle of your man made firestorm. Glad to hear the trouble accessing the site was because of the extra traffic and not the norm! Anyway … having NEVER been on your site before, I loved the video and got it’s “point” right away. The lighting was a nice bonus for me – always like to see setup shots.

Great job. I’ve had fun wandering the site … albeit slowly right now!

July 8, 2010 - 2:15 pm

Brian - It was a great video and your intent was very clear from the start — at least for people who can read. Your rebuttal even more clear. Sorry for whatever grief you received, just remember, “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

July 8, 2010 - 2:42 pm

Barry J. Brown - My wife and I have been very serious amateur photgraphers for many years and have never ceased to marvel at the mentality (or lack of) of so many photographers concerning the technical aspects of pic making. Nikon…Canon..Fuji…Argus…3,6,10,a million megapixels…and on and on! Duke Ellington once said about music “If it sounds good…it IS good”…Same with photos…”If it looks good…it IS good”. We absolutely LOVED the video!! Keep up the GREAT work.

Barry and Barb Brown

July 8, 2010 - 2:44 pm

Harvey - I totally got the point of the video and anyone who didn’t is nit picking. Stop sweating it people and take your iPhone/DSLR and go shoot something already!!

Use this video as inspiration to use what you have to create something stellar!!! You never get anywhere nit picking everyone else.

July 8, 2010 - 3:05 pm

Jerry Ross - Lee,

I thought you were perfectly clear on the intentions of your video. To me it screamed “this is what good lighting can do, regardless of the camera you have”.

I’ve always felt it’s the person “behind” the camera that makes the difference.

Great video. I’ve been out of the studio for over 20 years and am now getting back into it. Just watching other photographers techniques feeds my desire and creativity.

Bravo to a job well done.

July 8, 2010 - 3:07 pm

RayPG - As you said its all about lighting not how expensive can be, you show your point and that is what matter you really inspire me, long time ago I use to think about the equipment more than the photo it self, we must learn how to get fantastic photos with any equipment that is what make us different from the rest of the people to complain about the equipment. good video again and just became a fan of your blog.

July 8, 2010 - 3:34 pm

Manas - Props for the video. Not only was it stunning, you achieved what you set out to do, inspire people to get off the internets and shoot more.

I went ahead and bought some OC lighting equipment because of this video. I had been pushing it off forever and the video made me do it.

Bookmarked.

P.S. Youtube comments are like points on the Drew Carey Show.

July 8, 2010 - 3:40 pm

Mike Curran - Finally got around to watching the video and I have to say I enjoyed it immensely! I found it inspiring…fun and creative. Too many negative Neds out there are totally missing the point. Get out there and shoot, no matter what you have!

July 8, 2010 - 3:43 pm

Arturo Paulino - Lee I think that your video was meant to be inspirational and not instructional. I didn’t come out of it thinking “I ought to go sell my DSRL camera and get a couple iPhones in order to go and make money”. Instead I came out thinking “I have more than enough in my bag to take good compelling images”. Again, this video, much more like hanging out with you and Pat is inspirational.

July 8, 2010 - 3:51 pm

Dabe - Loved the video Lee, showed my wife who’s doing a 356 with her iPhone at the moment (http://amywalker300.tumblr.com/), I’ve always told her the camera is not the most important part of photography and this just goes that step further.

Thanks for sharing!

July 8, 2010 - 4:26 pm

Rob - I thought that the piece was fantastic! I didn’t care whether the shots were taken on an iPhone or a Hasselblad H4D-60. In either case, your creativity with light and your collaboration with the creativity of your model is what gets you the win here! Well done, and keep up the great work.
Rob

July 8, 2010 - 4:32 pm

Andrew Benes - I just wanted to say that I loved the video, from the way it was made to its message. I see a lot of photography enthusiasts obsess about the most technical aspects of their cameras, and rarely talk about the creative aspect of their work.

July 8, 2010 - 4:32 pm

Bill - Lee, thanks so much for the video. I learned a great deal and enjoyed your presentation. You are extremely talented in so many areas and I just became one of your biggest fans. Please ignore the rude comments from those who have nothing better to do that find things to criticize. They are simply jealous and can’t ever hope to be as knowledgeable or creative as you are. You’ve got it all, man.

July 8, 2010 - 5:29 pm

Brian - You’ve got to stop making these incredibly popular and even controversial videos that blow up your website and deprive us access to all of the great and inspiring stuff you’ve been kicking out.

Seriously thanks for the work you’ve been doing.

While I appreciate your willingness to respond to the IPHONE shoot criticism, you’ll waste way too time if you continue to rebut people’s misinterpretation of your future projects. I don’t know how you could have been more clear about your intent.

It’s a shame that people…especially people writing articles can’t seem to take the time to actually read your whole post or even pay attention to your commentary in the video. Don’t let it get you down. At least people are paying attention.

July 8, 2010 - 5:32 pm

Yosh - dude as you said this site is for the proffesionals, it seems pretty clear that most of the negative comments came from people who didnt bother to read the blog or no zero about photography. Keep up the good work loving this site!

July 8, 2010 - 5:34 pm

David J. O. - Personally, I thought about some of those same things but it didnt really bug me. I understood that he was mainly concerned with the camera. I thought the video was awesome great to see what you can do with any camera and some ingenuity. One thing I would have loved was to see how you edited what the retoucher gave you. I thought the edits were beyond awesome. Again i know good lighting helps, but still.

Thanks for the video. Keep em coming!

July 8, 2010 - 5:36 pm

Joseph - Well said Lee!

Cannot agree more than how people are so superficial in critiquing what they read today. And talk about their sense of humour… geez!

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed the video and have shared it with friends on what photography really is about… a work of art! I’m pretty sure Van Gogh would have painted the same with the lousiest of brushes and paint.

Please keep on posting and I look forward to more innovative photo shoots to come in the near future.

Joe
Singapore

July 8, 2010 - 5:48 pm

IPBrian - Hey Guys,
I found the site via the iphone story, and love it. I have been really interested in photography and videography again recently and LOVE what you have done on the site. You guys are simply great! Keep up the good work!

July 8, 2010 - 5:53 pm

ovi - I passed the video to 8 of my friends and we all liked it (100%).

And we don’t think using expensive lighting matters.
Same lighting can be build from inexpensive materials/devices from a homedepot like shop.

I hate destructive criticism and people who only criticize without doing anything constructive, so I’m sorry for that post at macgasm. We notice similar criticism from other people on some of our work (not related to photography) and we just ignore it.

In life is good to listen to criticism from people that have done something (people who are important) in that field, and not from everybody.

We (me and my friends) hope that such (bad) people/opinions will not stop you in doing more things. Just ignore them.

I’ve seen beautiful pictures taken with point and shoot 2MP cameras. 90% of people on forums know best to criticize and are horrible at taking pictures :).

It seems that good (smart) things are not for everybody… :)

So thank you again, keep on doing good work, ignore bad people and …. know that sometimes heat can be a good thing :).

July 8, 2010 - 6:05 pm

James Andrews - Its a great video and the pictures at the end of it are also great. The photographers who are complaining obviously don’t “get it”.. After all, the internet is full of idiots.

J

July 8, 2010 - 6:18 pm

Kellen - Sorry – I have to disagree with the “this site is for professionals.” I won’t dispute if that is the demographic you would /like/ to be going for, but I would say that another poll of who owns what kind of lighting equipment would be rather enlightening.

That being said, it was a great video. I was a little frustrated, but you did take a lot of time to clarify that you were talking about the camera, not the lighting.

July 8, 2010 - 6:38 pm

JH - Good work! Love it and can’t wait to see the outdoor video.

July 8, 2010 - 6:48 pm

George - I really enjoyed the video and the point that you were trying to make. I was one of the ones that shared the video with my friends.

Being a photographer is more than just what kind of camera you use. It is about combining artistic talent with technical ability to overcome any limitations you are working under and still provide an image that satisfies the customer’s requirements. If you can also handle the business end and still produce great work in a profitable way then you are probably a successful photographer.

In your example, you defined the set of conditions up front and produced results to emphasize your point. That made your video successful to me.

As Chase Jarvis has put so eloquently (and profited from): “The best camera is the one that’s with you.”

Thank you.

July 8, 2010 - 7:12 pm

Tom Benedict - Loved the video, and the point was well made and well taken. A friend of mine likes to tell a joke along those same lines: A photographer is invited to a dinner party, and when the host learns that he’s a photographer they say, “Wow, you must really have some good cameras!” He gives a non-committal answer and turns back to his dinner. At the end he compliments the host on the dinner and says, “You must have some really good pots and pans!”

I admit, the lighting threw me off at first, too. But when you brought in the two halogen work lights, I had to smile. I do a lot of interior shots at work, and have to use what’s available. Work lights get pressed into service pretty regularly. I’ve used the floor, walls, and whatever I had on hand as a reflector. But dang it, I need to get a couple of bed sheets and store them at work now!

From a testing standpoint, I thought your approach was dead-nuts on: change one thing, and observe how it affects the results. Aside from using hot lights instead of strobes (for understandable reasons) you only changed one thing: the camera. Well done.

- Tom

July 8, 2010 - 7:49 pm

John Noble - Only on the internet in 2010 could you post a video like this and have people *complain* about it! What is wrong with people?! Fun, informative, stupid, clever, and above all you took the time to actually do it and share it. It gave me a nudge of inspiration, so thank you. Great job.

July 8, 2010 - 7:52 pm

Alain - Hi!
Great all the way.
You barely needed to reply to the negative comments. These people don’t read and they don’t listen. It is SOOO obvious that you’re just challenging the camera thing, not the entire studio thing.
Great video, great challenge.
You win.
AT

July 8, 2010 - 8:17 pm

Gary Soucy - I thought the video was great and entertaining, especially when the phone rang and it was a telemarketer. Great job and thanks for a great website!

July 8, 2010 - 8:26 pm

Matt E - Great video! People need to lighten up. The web is full of people that like to find faults with everything. It gets your point across and inspired me to try something like that.

I shoot my nieces and nephew with a 5D Mark II and all I hear from my brother and sister is how great my camera is when they see the photos. I think I’m going to do my next shoot with my iPhone, not tell them, and see what the comments are. I know it’s no big deal but it will be funny to see if they say the same thing.

Thanks for a really cool video.

July 8, 2010 - 8:36 pm

kusakabemisao - Thanks for the video! Watching the video and reading the debates really gave me a lot of knowledge and inspiration.
I always wanted to keep reminding myself to appreciate what I have and not always thinking about what if I can buy those full frame body or premium lenses but this video has made it all clear now.
The most inspiring video I saw since I picked up and started to learn photography!

July 8, 2010 - 9:26 pm

Graham - All publicity is good publicity, Lee – how many (thousands) of people have now discovered fstoppers as a result of the exposure the video got on Strobist?

Keep up the good work :)

July 8, 2010 - 9:32 pm

Iris - I love the video and I totally got your point about what you were trying to prove :) – I am not professional like you, maybe one day :)

July 8, 2010 - 9:33 pm

Levy Moroshan - Loved it! That’s one excuse people can’t use anymore! :)

July 8, 2010 - 10:14 pm

minwye - Kudos for the great iPhone video Lee! I am truly inspired!

Unfortunately, it is a shame you are plagued with these negative comments; and it is probably due to internet readers that never “read” but instead, scan the page!!

July 8, 2010 - 10:16 pm

ash - I thought it demonstrated beautifully that lighting is everything (well 95%) in photography… the rest is made up with post processing and maybe a camera that works.

ash

July 8, 2010 - 10:33 pm

Bill - Sorry to see that so many people have missed the point of your video. I found it to be a great inspiration. Too often photographers focus in on the equipment and miss the importance of composition and lighting. Amazing video and a true inspiration. It amazes me that anyone would find your video to be misleading. Thanks and keep them coming! Great site. BTW – I found his site because of this video – Thanks to David Hobby’s site!

July 8, 2010 - 11:31 pm

Aaron Stauch - The video was a ton of fun. And it made an excellent point. Needless to say your website is now in my photography favorites folder

July 9, 2010 - 12:08 am

Kaleb - Cool video, really enjoyed it, but was the Olympus bashing really needed? :(

July 9, 2010 - 12:08 am

Sega - <3 <3 <3

July 9, 2010 - 12:16 am

RevJVegas - I enjoyed the video for what it was.
Well done guys.

July 9, 2010 - 12:23 am

Ben - Wow I can’t believe some people were so bored out of their minds that they would go into such great lengths to do some nitpicking like this. I have to say that despite that fact that I’m no pro and usually only wield around my Canon for kicks and giggles, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Once again, to Lee and everybody who was involved in this shoot, job well done! it highlights the point that camera alone isn’t the most decisive factor in producing professionally looking photographs. I too, found this video and the website through David Hobby’s Strobist site RSS feed. I thank you guys, Lee and Patrick, for taking the time to create these BTS videos and share with us your tips and experience. Your work is really inspirational to me and I’m glad I stumbled across here and will be checking back regularly. Again, for those who missed the point of this video, it is only their loss.

July 9, 2010 - 12:43 am

Gabe.C - I’m a student and aspiring photographer and i couldn’t agree more with your point of view, and you are right, if people truly like the video? They wouldn’t comment but share it with their friends & family ;) And for the record, i absolutely loved your video and the part where olympus sucks. Yeah olympus does suck >:) Made the switch after using it, made taking photographs so much easier and convenient.

July 9, 2010 - 12:50 am

chan - the model is hot

July 9, 2010 - 1:09 am

Jamison Britton - there will always be haters…. at least your stirring the pot…… So does this mean you win the free camera? shoot I was hoping my iphone 3gs could shoot the video…. i guess i’ll have to upgrade to the 4.

July 9, 2010 - 1:26 am

Ian - I have for a long time now argued that taking a good photo should not be about the pixels or the grain or whatever. A good image is a good image. Too many get hung up obsessing on these things and I am amazed they even get round to taking a picture at all.
Great video – great idea – anyone picking holes in this just didn’t get it and ended up proving why you did it in the first place

July 9, 2010 - 1:44 am

Trevor - Well I enjoyed the video!
It was only a few weeks ago I bought a (very cheap) point and shoot Nikon just for a bit of fun, something to carry around in my pocket.
The images aren’t up to the standard of my bigger Nikons but I knew that from the start.
With a bit of help in post from Aperture I’ve captured some very satisfying images and have been enjoying the fun the baby Nikon has supplied.
I also play with the iphone and have often thought about a tripod of some description … hadn’t given a thought to velcro!
It’s horses for courses … I wouldn’t use it for my work but it’s nice to know I can have some fun with it.
I thought that was the point of the video as well … to have a bit of fun with photography.

July 9, 2010 - 1:54 am

MFMG - It amazes me how stupid people can be. I really enjoyed your video. It was pretty obvious that you were just having fun trying to prove a point. I am a professional and it seems ridiculous to hear some of the comments by other “professionals”. Get a frickin’ sense of humor people, or at least lighten up a little. I’ve been photographing some of my clients (H.S. Seniors) with their own cell phones in addition to my 1Ds Mark III. It gives them a quick photo they can share with their friends and they look better than any cell phone photo they see, because they were taken in proper lighting conditions.

I say NICELY DONE guys! Keep up the good work.

Matt Green

July 9, 2010 - 2:25 am

David - love it!

July 9, 2010 - 2:44 am

Bryan - Just wanted to say nice job… point well made, especially for those of us just getting enthused about photography and struggling with the “how much do I spend on my equipment” question. The answer, which you so ably demonstrated is, that the more time you spend learning the craft, the less important your equipment becomes. Thanks for a hugely entertaining video that will help keep me focused on the right things as I delve deeper into the wonderful world of photography!

July 9, 2010 - 2:59 am

Mikhail - I recently bought a $.99 camera app for my iPhone and I love it! I loved it so much in fact that I decided to do something very similar to what you have done here except on location. This video is awesome and really shows exactly what every true professional photographer knows….. iPhones RULE!!!!! :D Well, that and the camera is not the most important part of a photo – vision is! Thanks for sharing this with us and way to go! Two thumbs up!

July 9, 2010 - 3:03 am

James - Don’t stress about people who are missing the point. All the explanation in the world will not help. And for the record, I do think the unedited photos look good. Not perfect, but, and here’s the real issue: far better than most people probably believe could be captured on a cell phone camera. And that’s the kicker. This is all about getting out there and getting work done with what you have, right? I think that many of the serious amateurs on here would be happy to end up with what you did with their full-size cameras. Seeing that it can be done on the iPhone gives you the confidence to get out there and try it yourself.

July 9, 2010 - 3:22 am

Bernard - A superb video and the following discussion is amazing! Thanks for drawing back my attention to how important good lighting of a scene really is. My personal proof happened last weekend using just a single strobe bouncing into a silver umbrella while shootimg some portraits outside in the garden early in the evening.

Actually this video is a real nightmare for all gear heads! No more excuses about wrong camera, lens or whatever. Since I can read so much complaints about expensive lighting and light modifiers used in this photo session this seems to be the last item on the list of our beloved gear head community to defend their approach on photography. Dream on, boys and girls – your local dealer in his photo shop will love you forever for your mind setting!

July 9, 2010 - 4:04 am

David - haters always gonna hate!

July 9, 2010 - 4:48 am

Photo Digitaal Magazine - Lee,
we loved the video and will be checking back the fstoppers website on a regular basis.
Best regards,
Photo Digitaal Magazine
the Netherlands

July 9, 2010 - 5:07 am

Sascha J. - Funny how many people missed (or wanted to miss) the intention of the movie. Maybe they just felt offended by the quality of the images. Imagine that guys, having no clue about photography buying a 5D MKII and a lot of equip and never get pictures that are even close to the iPhone shots. They might see this clip from a very different perspective (as in: “that’s just because you’re a noob and don’t have any skills”).

I think people should stop trolling and realize what the movie is:
A motivation for all of us! Thanks Lee for this amazing work and washing our brains :) You really made an excellent point.

July 9, 2010 - 5:27 am

Angus - Don’t spend time worrying about it – we all got it, they’re all dicks :D

July 9, 2010 - 6:41 am

Paolomix - I have enjoyed your video very much, and I think your point is relevant and well made!

July 9, 2010 - 9:33 am

ShakaM - @ Martin Moore

Excellent photos my man! You should have made a video as well, shut the negative posters on youtube up!

July 9, 2010 - 10:08 am

Paul - Thank you. Your video was one of the best I have seen in a long time. It brings to mind the old saying, “A bad carpenter blames his tools” You have proven without a doubt that it is technique, experience and knowledge of photography that is important. When I got married 10 years ago (second time around) my 14 year old daughter followed our professional photographer around and took pictures at the same time. The photographer had high end film cameras, my daughter had a $75 point and shoot film camera. Guess what? My daughter actually took some better pictures that the photographer.

The point of this, is to learn your craft, then worry about the equipment.

Thank you Lee for a great, eye opening video,

cheers,

Paul

July 9, 2010 - 10:13 am

Mike - Not really sure why you even bothered to respond to these people. They pretty clearly have no knowledge of photography and perhaps shouldn’t have been reading your blog anyway.

July 9, 2010 - 10:17 am

Juanita - A good photographer is one that is able to capture emotions / feelings / time / space. Well done on your video, your shoot and your article. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

July 9, 2010 - 10:19 am

Simone Severo - I loved watching your video, reading the post and coming back to see that you actually had this much response. Keep up this great work. I bookmarked the website to come back as much as I can :)

July 9, 2010 - 10:37 am

Une Herzer - Who gives a crap if you use ‘proper’ lighting for the job at hand!! It’s like they don’t get the whole point of the exercise you produced.

Would I be penalized for using my £6k ringlight in a shot that called for it? No, you simply were showing what could be achieved with these camera phones … YES you lit it right and used relevant lights for the job… it’s not like you went out the ‘Briese’ and ordered 1 from every list in their kit room… now that would be expensive, and to some, OK

July 9, 2010 - 10:59 am

Josh - This was the first time I heard of fstoppers or visited the site. As a pro, I was inspired by the video. It really challenges my way of thinking. We all get caught up by the “I want the best” bug but we have to remember that some of the best photographs are made with very inexpensive equipment. Thanks again, and keep em’ coming!

July 9, 2010 - 11:34 am

Stuart Moscoe - Hey Lee,

I just found your site after watching the video which was linked from TUAW.com.

I liked your fun look at using an iPhone for a pro shoot. I shot weddings for 15 years with Hasselblad equipment and always had guests come up and say that of course I got good pictures due to the equipment. I always told them its the lighting, the pose and the expression that makes the photo. I could do good work with point and shoot cameras. I would sometimes grab their point and shoot and take a picture for them using my setup.

The only reason we used Hasselblad was to enable us to make large prints. Today, nobody needs anything bigger than an 8×10, so a 3MP camera is ok and a 6MP is good. Anything larger is overkill unless it captures a better dynamic range.

If you look at my site, consider that it hasn’t been updated since 1999 and I stopped working as a full-time photographer in 2001 when digital was just starting. I did some freelance digital jobs until 2005 shooting with Phase one backs and Hasselblad for portraits and Nikon D2′s for candids.

Keep up the good work and keep inspiring photographers to take better photos. Don’t let the haters get to you.

July 9, 2010 - 12:38 pm

LC - Hi!
I spent a few hours browsing through your site yesterday, great stuff!
Today, to my surprise, I found a article in a Norwegian newspaper about your iphone photo shoot! If you didn’t already know, here is the link
http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/07/09/tema/klikk/mobil/teknologi/12493616/

July 9, 2010 - 1:35 pm

jwestveer - You did good. Don’t worry about the rest.

July 9, 2010 - 1:58 pm

ToddH - Thought the video was great, told all my camera friends about it, and we all agreed that it was a fantastic idea. It had the intended impact on us, and just made us want to get off our butts and start shooting.
Thanks for posting it and keep up the great work man!
-Todd

July 9, 2010 - 2:51 pm

Matt - Chill your beans bro. 95% percent of people loved it.

July 9, 2010 - 3:07 pm

chano - Lee Hi,
I’m glad I came across your site.
Amazing work on this important project.
I have returned to photography after a long absence. I bought a decent DSLR and I’m having fun. But I take simple pics too and I consider it a personal challenge to get the best shot I can, regardless of the camera I’m using. I try not to waste shots either even digital doesn’t have the cost factor as film where waste is concerned.
Your video is the most powerful way to show people that it is knowledge and method that matter. The camera comes after such considerations.
Well done. Truly. It is a case study in the art of the possible and I sincerely commend you for even doing it.
As for the whiners and the naysayers, ignore them Lee. Their mission in life is to spread depression and ridicule anyone who strives for excellence.
Don’t let such buggers get you down. They’re like mosquitoes. Just swat them and move on with your work. That’s where the joy of the reward lies.
Best!

July 9, 2010 - 3:41 pm

Mike - I actually stumbled upon your blog BECAUSE of this video and I love all the videos and posts. Keep them coming!

July 9, 2010 - 3:52 pm

Scott Shoemaker - Thanks for sharing.It’s hilarious when the the discussion falls into “proper” this or that. I think your results speak for themselves. I was sent over here from Strobist and now it’s a daily stop. Thanks again!

July 9, 2010 - 4:12 pm

fred - i thought the video was a lot of fun and i got that it was geared towards people with low end equipment who want to be be pro shooters.

i like the way you layed out in your response how they could achieve decent lighting on a low budget. you summed it up correctly by saying if you do all the low end stuff and come up with some compelling images, people will be impressed. plus it helps you to think on your feet when your gear is down, stolen, flaky and you need to get the shot done.

thanks for doing this. the responses are just as interesting as the video.

July 9, 2010 - 4:57 pm

Cas - That is what happens when you try and think outside the box….people want to shove you right back in. Everyone has gotten so used to voicing their opinion via tweet or status update, that they don’t even think before they speek anymore. “Well…I have an opinion on this matter….even though I don’t know anything about anything.” Please….spare us.

That video was an excellent example of how light is the most crucial part of the equation when taking a photograph. It was meant to show that the camera is just a tool, capturing the reflection of light. Closing comment was the best….competing with his Canon? What a bonehead….

Fantastic job.

July 9, 2010 - 5:43 pm

Myles Erwin - I can’t believe someone actually challenged you by saying- Betcha can’t make great pictures without the great lights. Tell that to Chase Jarvis. I’m sure he is really hurting in the iPhone Picture Book Sales dept. (did you get my sarcasm- did you… you see how I put it in there?)

July 9, 2010 - 6:11 pm

Robert Winkle - This video was awesome and it definitely had the desired effect on me, because while I am not a professional photographer I like to consider myself at least an amateur. I’ve always been a little self-consicious about pulling out my cheap DSLR camera and missing the chance to take, what I envisioned, a great image. This video really put it in perspective for me and I thank you for that.

Keep up the good work!

July 9, 2010 - 9:17 pm

greg - Very fun video to watch. I’m not sure what’s misleading, or upsetting. A fashion shoot using an iphone. Fashion infers lights, models, make up, etc… Well done.

July 9, 2010 - 9:36 pm

Helena - I so agree with the point you were trying to make. Here, where I live, many are buying very expensive gear but don’t know how to even take presentable (not to mention good) pictures with their Canon 70 – 200 mm lens and Canon 50D etc.

After watching your video and reading the comments: it has made me think more about what (and how) I want to photograph rather than what do I need to buy to do it. So thanks for that! And I wanted to thank you for your website. It’s always a thrill to find a site were you can see the “how to’s” and get ideas to try out myself. Off to shoot now :) All the best, Helena

July 9, 2010 - 11:24 pm

Philip Kuryloski - I really enjoyed watching the video, it looked like a lot of fun, and the photos look great. Thanks for creating and sharing it!

July 9, 2010 - 11:28 pm

wheels999 - I think its absolutely critical that photo pros point out that the camera is not the most critical part in the equation for amazing photographs.

Almost everyone can benefit more from working on their technique and skills more than from the very latest or most expensive camera gear.

Thank you!

July 10, 2010 - 1:03 am

Jared - Great video Lee, just ignore the negative people. I think it’s great that you can take these kind of shots with just a mobile phone. People don’t understand that lighting is pretty much the main thing with photo or video. As someone that shoots video professionally, you learn very quickly in the early days (well I did) how much you need good lighting. It can be the difference between a good and a bad shoot. There are also limitations with shooting with a camera with such a small lens. So you need to compensate with more lighting. Like you said, you use lights even when you shoot with your DSLR’s, so having lighting is normal. Good job..

July 10, 2010 - 2:13 am

Rob - Lee – you made it totally clear about the fact it was about the camera and nothing else. I thoroughly enjoyed the video, and passed it to some friends (found it via a link on strobist).

Also – “Photography is all about lighting.” AMEN!!!!!

Keep up the great work … really glad I found your site, loving the videos.

-Rob

July 10, 2010 - 3:05 am

Vivek - Dude, ignore all these nay sayers. They obviously didn’t get the point, which is too bad and not really your fault. I loved the video and am amazed at the final picture quality. As you said, photography is all about lighting. Photography literally means, writing or recording light. If the light is not beautiful then a photo will obviously suck. Thanks for making this video.

Keep up the good work. Cheers!

July 10, 2010 - 3:50 am

Nitesight - I doubt you’ll ever read this – sooooo many comments but I really appreciated the video. I’m a keen amateur and feel that the negative comments you received have proved one of my misgivings about photography, namely the constant race for better technology being at the center of everything. Light is all and you’ve creatively proved that it’s the eye and manipulating light that creates an excellent image not the tool you capture it with. I have a Canon 40d that does all I ask of it. Most of the images of my kids are taken with my iPhone because it’s always there. Are those images as technically perfect as my 40D would take? Of course not! Are they awesome images that I’m proud of and will look at throughout my life? Yes!

All you did was point out that it’s not all about the camera and you did it in an entertaining informative way. All those that didn’t get it are caught up in the tech race and are forgetting about what is important. The image you create, not the kit you create it with.

Well done!

July 10, 2010 - 5:19 am

Peter - Great video, I think it was pretty clear that this type of shoot wasn’t available to every iPhone user, I think you showed excatly what you set out to do, some people are just never happy, keep up the good work!!!

July 10, 2010 - 6:09 am

denise karis - I’ve been wanting a video like this one for so long!!! Whenever anyone asks me what kind of camera I use I try to tell them to get whatever and just learn how to use it. I used a xt with the kit lens for like, my first nine shoots and the images were lovely simply because I knew how to use the thing. Some of my friends bought a camera they couldnt afford and didn’t learn to use it and took horrible photos with it… I think everyone should watch this!! The camera totally doesn’t make the photographer and I love that this was done so well. I am gushing…this is so good. I’ll stop. But really…so good.

July 10, 2010 - 7:19 am

David Horinek - Don’t worry about those negative comments. I am not photographer but I am owner of iPhone and I really enjoyed these 10 minutes of your video. Great work!
Sending regards from Czech Republic ;)

July 10, 2010 - 7:56 am

Aufstandeq - You are correct, people like to complain before they praise, but fear not, I believe your video was well received by many photographers. I’m a software architect and find I get stuck in the details and the video was a good kick in the teeth.
– Get out there and shoot, stop reading and upgrading your stuff!

Thank you for creating and sharing the video – Happy Shooting

July 10, 2010 - 10:03 am

Kevin Mosmen - People are retarded….especially some of them on this Internet thing.

It was an awesome video and someone with half a brain would have realized the point you MADE – not trying to make.

fstoppers.com rocks!

THANKS!

July 10, 2010 - 2:51 pm

Marlo Casabar - Great video. I have to laugh at the people that pounced all over your work. They missed your humor at the beginning and missed the most important message of all …. Stop complaining about the equipment you don’t have. Go out there, take pictures, make videos and have FUN!

Thanks for a great video.

July 10, 2010 - 4:15 pm

Peter Fauland - First of all, I really ENJOYED this film a lot !! Second, reading your response, you are too much defending yourself. And there is absolutely no reason for that !

Please keep doing “crazy things” like that …

Cheers,

Peter

July 10, 2010 - 6:13 pm

James - I didn’t agree with the attacks on the video saying it was misleading because of the lights you used. The main points I took away from the video were the lighting concepts. Also, it proves that the camera doesn’t matter. It’s all about lighting, composition, moment. It helps if you have a $4,000 camera, but this video proves that you can make great images without it. The most important part of any camera is the area 4 inches behind the viewfinder.

July 10, 2010 - 6:15 pm

Gene - Lee, critics be damned. What you did was very telling, revealing, and you did it in a fun and entertaining way. There are folks out there that are crawling the web simply to try to poke holes and shoot down things that are trying to uplift arbitrary limitations. Do your thing, Lee, it’s awesome.

July 10, 2010 - 9:41 pm

Greg - As a pro shooter all my family and friends always ask me for camera recommendations… and I always say, well if you really want to get serious about taking good pictures, buy a flash that can be operated off camera, learn how to do so, and then buy the cheapest camera that will sync with it.

I just can’t believe anyone actually had serious critiques of this video… or more specifically the photography in this video.

From the 1st few seconds of this video I could tell its intent. Mostly to be fun/funny, but also to prove that you shouldn’t be limited by your equipment. I mean, who cares if you used expensive lights and modifiers and pro models, etc… you shot these images with an effing PHONE! I don’t care if you were somehow syncing Profoto packs and heads with your iPhone, you were still taking pictures with a PHONE that looked great.

Where were all the people being like “Hey, I love Olympus cameras”? That’s actually most of the guff I was expecting to see from this video. Can’t believe people were pissed that you used a phone.

July 10, 2010 - 9:44 pm

Greg - Also… do people forget that the word “photograph” comes from the Greek “photos” and “graphe”… meaning drawing with LIGHT!

That’s our whole business!

July 10, 2010 - 10:03 pm

alex - Great video. Don’t sweat the haters. They just need to vent on ‘the internets’.

July 10, 2010 - 10:41 pm

Ken - “dont waste your time by replying people who doesn’t even own a DSLR or are just behind the screen freaks…they won’t understand that photography is not just about cameras, gear, lighting and mpix, it’s ART, it’s PASSION!”

But what if I don’t own a DSLR and understood the point of the video? :(

July 11, 2010 - 1:35 am

PhotoDude - Time to write a book and title it “Adventures in Missing the Point” :) You had me at “Olympus, who shoots with that?!” Keep up the good work!

July 11, 2010 - 1:46 am

Alex No Logo - @Ken Just watch, learn and enjoy :)

July 11, 2010 - 6:31 am

Bob D - I thought it was great, and I for one did not miss the point. It’s too bad really that people always have to find something to complain about. I’m more camera geek than photographer, and I do obsess over things like chromatic aberration, but I know I shouldn’t, so again, I got it. This reminded me of two other things I’ve come across on the net that make a similar point… the first is a post called “Alex Majoli points and shoots”, about the Magnum photographer using (ironically) Olympus point and shoots (C-5050 etc.) for his award winning published photojournalist work. Just Google the title and it will come right up. The other article that came to mind is called “Dirty Lens Test”. Again, Google it, it should come right up. The author shot a roll of film through an old camera with a filthy crapped up lens to prove that a lens doesn’t have to be pristine to produce good images. Good stuff.

Anyway, thanks for making your point so well – much appreciated.

July 11, 2010 - 11:14 am

Dan - The biggest thing I got out of this video? Your website! What an incredible training tool for even interested amateurs like myself. (And the video, with the points in this post, were awesome too.)

July 11, 2010 - 11:20 am

bizwiz - very inspiring and fun idea. as a few said already, before you shot this admittedly controversial video, only people who are interested in (semi-)professional photography knew about fstoppers. with the video you reached a bigger crowd, some of which with different values and looks at photography…. and with that additional traffic the web-trolls came along, that don’t have anything better to do to criticise and bad-mouth anything that gains popularity. it’s always easier to identify what’s wrong with something, than to point out what’s right.

keep up your great work!
-bizwiz

July 11, 2010 - 11:33 am

Mike Donatello - I thought the video was well done, incredibly entertaining, and illustrated well your very valid points. I’d never been to the site, but it’s bookmarked and in my daily RSS list as well. Awesome stuff. Thanks!

July 11, 2010 - 1:36 pm

Erica - It’s a really good video and I even shared it with my collegues!!it just remind me again that insight,ideas are far more important then tools. And by this video I know about your website,which is really good!!!Please keep sharing with us the behind scene shots!!

July 11, 2010 - 1:51 pm

JR Wright - Great video, loved the concept and proves that any camera will take an excellent picture when used right. However, being an Olympus user, I was downright mortified about your comment in the beginning and felt you were putting me down personally. Really? Honestly, you don’t have to put down user preference just because you can afford and have access to higher end equipment. I thought you were a professional? If you were trying to stimulate some friendly brand rivalry, I think you may have gone about it the wrong way. Olympus has been the first brand I used and will be the last. The brand has served me well and has brought me great pictures. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

JR

July 11, 2010 - 2:33 pm

Rich Young - Loved the video! I’m another that found your site via Strobist.

I’m laying the groundwork to start shooing professionally again after 20 years. Like many I’m on a reduced budget. I’ve created a number of light modifiers for cheap ala Dean Collins’ ‘Tinkertubes’. With that said, I’ve been catching myself thinking I can’t ‘X’ because I don’t have that super expensive piece of equipment (even though I know better).

Time for those lame excuses to go the way.

I got the point of the video pretty quickly – and had a good laugh at the same time.

Thank You.

July 11, 2010 - 6:53 pm

Starastin - laughed my a** of at the comments ! the best thing I’ve read this week . people are some seriously funny creatures you can’t ever get enough of them.

July 11, 2010 - 8:52 pm

Silvio Barba - Great video! And congratulations on your response to those who criticize without foundation.
I live in Argentina, I’m learning and would like to improve my skills as a photographer. Your video was a big motivation.
Thanks a lot!
Silvio Barba

July 12, 2010 - 4:24 am

Steve welland - Sod the why’s and the wherefores …….. Truly inspirational stuff…. I’m glad this game is all about imagination.

July 12, 2010 - 9:02 am

Ron Castle - Lee, I thought the video was very well thought out and put together. After seeing it via The Strobist, I’ve become a real fan of your blog! All caveats were very clear to anyone paying complete attention. As John Wayne said, “Life is tough. It’s even tougher if you’re stupid!” Ignore the “stupid” viewers.

July 12, 2010 - 9:57 am

rabbitinpumpkin - I have to agree with many of the people above. Taking pictures isn’t just about having fancy equipment. The expensive equipment is to make a professional’s life more convenient and time/cost effective. As an amateur DSLR hobbyist, I avoid paying top dollar whenever I can. :)

Your video was well done, humorous (loved the phone ringing), and reminded us all that photography is about being creative and having fun. Well done, sir!

July 12, 2010 - 11:55 am

Alex - I must admit, I too thought you were a bit misleading in what you said, not needing fancy lights and knowing all the editing software. But then I got it, it was JUST about the camera. I thought it was fun and entertaining and made the point you were trying to make. I used to own a Sony Cybershot F717 5mp, and it was a fantastic camera. Never took a blurry image. But you need 18-24mp! I got rid of it as I have DSLRs and it was too big to use as my point and shoot. But it would do well for someone who complains they don’t have good equipment and can’t afford anything, so they don’t take photos. Or get a used Nikon D100 or D40 or something!

July 12, 2010 - 11:15 pm

c.d.embrey - I’m really disappointed — there were NO shots of a brick wall! How can I tell the quality of the iPhone lens with NO brick with photos. ;-D

Fun video, keep up the good work!

July 13, 2010 - 7:39 am

Jennifer - I am an absolute noob in photography, own a really old digital camera that cost about a hundred bucks, I don’t know how to take good pictures and I don’t own an iPhone.

And still I thought the video was great and fun. It demonstrates what’s essential about photography – the skill and knowledge of the photographer. That it is the artist, with his lighting, postprocessing and composition to make pictures that rock. It gives me an insight into how you guys work, and what makes the good photographers so good.

Any artist, or simply anyone with passion for something they create can relate to that. Loved it.

I’m adding this blog to my RSS feed. I like the way you think. :)

July 13, 2010 - 9:07 am

Maurice Hammon - Telling the truth will make you enemies!

Keep on doing it however, not only great fun but a reminder of what photography is all about.

July 13, 2010 - 5:16 pm

Richard - I feel like the negative comments were more plentiful than the positive ones, and that’s a shame because so many people appreciated it – myself included. The fact that the video got posted on a few blogs that aren’t photography specific, opened up the gates for everyone with an iPhone thinking you were talking to them.

It’s like me seeing a video of a pitching technique to break that pesky 90mph mark for my fastball. Clearly no tips, or fundamental guidelines for that kind of thing could render me capable of throwing anything faster than I can run.

I however, feel like I’d have the presence of mind to realize that kind of instructional video would never be meant for someone like me (who has no physical ability for anything whatsoever). Therefore, I wouldn’t call bs on something like that.

I kept trying to tell people in all kinds of forums and comment sections (to no avail) who this video was for, and why we understand it. However, the people who don’t play baseball, and don’t make any kind of living off of photography, will often miss the point.

Thank you for doing it. At least you got a ton of hits!

July 17, 2010 - 10:38 am

Thomacintosh - It’s a good try. Your video is very interesting and fun. I’m agree with the fact everything is about light.

I’m really impatient to see the iPhone shoot in natural light.

July 19, 2010 - 3:00 pm

Al Santamaria - Well, if they did not get it, is because they are not TRUE photographers. Any photograper knows that photography is all about LIGHT. I can’t believe some of the bad comments from other posters. As Vittorio Storaro said “It doesn’t matter if you write it on stone, or film or electronics; what really matters is THE IDEA. Unfurtanelly, these days we have a lot of tech potograpers instead of artist photograpers. They are so focused on the tools that forget the idea. Keep it up, man! Great job!

August 5, 2010 - 3:42 am

Harsha - I laughed out loud when the off screen gut threw the iPhone at you and you said, dude, this cant even shoot RAW.

I knew right then and there that this was going to be an awesome/funny/cool/informative video and I was right on the money.

Until I saw that video, I’d never heard of your site, but now I’m watching all the videos on your posts and each one of them is magical. And you have no idea how many pal’s I’ve been telling this to.

Thank you for everything, keep up the good work.
You guys rock!

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