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getting wet

exploring the site of this mornings excursion i almost went in and the gear too. anybody else almost lost there gear to a slip and fall..let me know what you think of this shot too.

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Nope, can't say that I have. Was it while the camera was on the tripod? Anyway, I like this image, there's a curve, almost an S-curve even leading... somewhere. It's quite detailed and the LE works for me as well. Couple of pointers, a) you lose a lot of detail in the shadows, b) experiment with different shutter times, you might be surprised that a shorter exposure can work even better, c) let the curve lead to a subject, if you dont have any, put the camera on a 10s timer and shoot a selfie, sort of (don't have to look into the camera, try different positions, poses).

haha no i was crossing through the water and almost ate rocks when i slipped on a slime coated rock but i caught by balance, ill be adding a walking stick to my gear for sure footing. thanks i was really happy with this and most of the rest of my new shoots its been great practice. i was using a 6 ND filter in early morning should i not have used one in this instance? i put the out of camera below. i am struggling with detail I'm not sure if its a focusing, time or aperture problem. as always many thank Thorsten

It's an exposure problem, you don't catch enough light. When shooting LEs, don't automatically reach fot the ND, it's not the be-all-end-all tool for LE. If you can do without it, that's one thing off your mind. Try this approach:

What do I want to achieve?
What shutter time do I need for that effect?
How much of the scene needs to be in focus?
What aperture do I need to get it sharp enough for those parts of the scene?

Now you have shutter speed and f-stop, what's left? ISO. Try to shoot at native ISO (I think 100 on your camera) if at all possible.

Ok, now you're facing one out of 4 possible scenarios:

1) The scene is too dark.
2) The scene is too bright.
3) The scene is too bright in some places and too dark in others.
4) The scene is neither too bright nor too dark anywhere in the frame

If 4) happens to be the case, press the cable release.

The other 3) are more complicated, obviously.

1) Crank up the ISO.
2) Stop down, but no farther than f/16. If it's still too bright, back up to your original f-stop and put the ND on. If that is too dark now, see 1).
3) You have exceeded the dynamic range of your sensor. Start bracketing.

Awesome tips that's a ton to sort out but extremely helpful hopefully next weekend I can put this info to use

There are some tricks to get around some of the above limitations, so you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. For example, if available light fails me I usually avoid increasing the ISO and go down 1 or 2 stops instead, thus losing front to back sharpness. I make up for that by focus stacking. Here's another tidbit: If I forgot to bring the ND filter I sometimes shoot a series of frames and stack them in Photoshop later on, creating a fake LE.

This is as far as I can push it with this JPEG.

I'll send you the original tonight if you wanted to try it

Sure, I'm curious if there's more potential in the image!

Yep, been there and done that.... A couple of weeks ago, I was setting up for a shot in the middle of a river where someone had built one of those little zen rock piles. I set up the tripod and took my hands off just long enough to shift myself over to get a better footing. One leg of the tripod was in the water and, with the force of the river, suddenly everything went down. Luckily, I didn't lose everything, but I did chip the front element on the lens. Went home cold, wet, and with no photo. :-/

I like the scene you've set, with the water flowing in different directions. It leads my eye to the yellowish leaves on the other side of the water, almost like a "fall is coming" type of feeling. The crop and composition give it a nice intimate landscape feel. I do agree with Thorsten, though: lighten the shadows for more detail and maybe shorter exposure.

That really sucks....I'll try again next weekend with all of your comments on mind thanks a ton

One more thing: Bring a polarizer next time and experiment away.

I had one on while taking the shot

Just saying, because I'm wondering what those rocks would look like if you were to remove their reflections.

i sent the image to your email

Haven't got it yet.

just resent it maybe the file is too big i guess ill try drop box next

If it's bigger than 20MB it'll bounce.

hahaha its 68mb i reduced it to a 6x10 inch at 300dpi 17mb

Not coming through it seems.

i tried it at 13mb hopefully comes thru

I think this is the best photo I've seen from you, yet. You're making a lot of improvement. This looks similar to something Thomas Heaton himself would shoot. Keep up the good work

jordan i just squirted a tear ...haha thanks dude greatly appreciated. i have been putting in the work both mentally and physically i think my computer is about to die from all the you tubing I've been doing. and I'm trying to look at things from different perspectives its just gonna take time but ill get there.