Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Before - after

What do you think about this retouching?

Photographer: Anya Pavina
Retouching: https://photza.me

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Pawel Paoro Witkowski's picture

It looks like frequency separation is used there, and it's far from being good in my opinion :/ It makes face flat and fake. Not a fan of it unfortunately :(

Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Yes, this was a frequency separation. Unfortunately such disadvantage is possible when using this method of retouching. But when combining D&B with the frequency separation, the results can be good enough.
Thanks for your comment! :)

Pawel Paoro Witkowski's picture

I tried many times with FS and i never could get anywhere close to D&B which I do all over the place. I do believe that they can be combined, so I keep trying. Recently I'm trying with a surface blur and later on using alpha channel to take changes down - it helps a bit, yet I do still see results bit unnatural. I think the problem is with the blur in general, as long as FS is used to separate color from texture, but then handling color using similar methods like in D&B you can have great results (but it's even more timeconsuming than simple D&B that's why I don't really like FS)

Pawel Paoro Witkowski's picture

Oh and a photo is good, yet question was about retouch not the photo :)

Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Oh, thank you! When I combine FS an D&B I usually add the shadows using D&B method at the end of retouching. May be this tip will help you to get better results.

Joseph Anthony's picture

So Pawel is not a fan of FS, ok, but the picture is good. I think you retained skin texture, I can see pores. I am not a fan of lightening skin so much when the model clearly has some color..a tan, but in what you did do, it is even and looks nice...natural. For a beauty or fashion image I think you did a great job. Some my nitpick about the little smudge of hair peeking around her neck. Nice.

Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Thank you! This was a fashion photo, so there was no need to make it very natural. But a lot of my clients need natural retouching of their portraits, and of course I retouch the images according to their requirements.

It looks great! But to my eye it looks a bit overprocessed, when it looks obvious FS was used in it is because it's too much, and even tho the is skin texture, it's a bit too sharp.
It's ok, I've been there, sometimes if you're not sure if it's too much you can take a break of 5-10 mins to rest your eyes and then come back, if you decide it's too much, you can lower the opacity of your adjustment layers, this sometimes help you hit that sweet point of a natural look.
The lip also called my attention, that roundness in the uneditted picture is normal in young people, her lips in your edit still look great, but they don't look as full as the unnedited, I sometimes exagerate it a bit when the model has thinner lips.
Also, the higlights in the neck are a bit unnatural, they follow the shape of the muscle and/or bones, in this case, the higlight is out of the muscle, check the higlight in the collarbone, you followed it right, and now check the higlight in the shoulder, this was was also right but a bit overdone, back to the neck, there are muscles shapin a triangle, but the ones getting highlights are two, you merged them in one large highlight from her jaw angle to her back near the shoulder. As a tip, i can recommend you to check some anatomy books or other portraits in this angle, so you can study the highlights in the neck.

Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Thank you for such attention to my work. Thanks for the comments and tips, I will definitely browsing books on anatomy for detailed study the highlights in the face and neck.

Joseph Anthony's picture

Just noticed, great job on the hair

Rebecca Maxwell's picture

Thanks!

Joshua Barnes's picture

Whoa! The hair is amazing i think you did a pretty good job, i would just darken it a little bit it seems like one stop over on the editing portion. But you did a good job period!

Frank Withers's picture

I think above all you did a great job of sharpening the original image.