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Please give me any critique

Hello!
Could you please give me some advises how to do these shots better and some critique.The way I see it, the composition can be better here...The scene can be much deeper,not such flat as it is now but I don't know how exactly to create the depth here by post-processing maybee.
The second point - Do there photos seems overcooked? maybe some advises here?Maybee some other advises about what can be better in these shots?

Thank you, very much!

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Nice colours and pics. Top one is a good composition. I don't think it's overcooked although some images I see look like actresses with a botox job gone wrong.The bottom one I would Have tried to get the leaves in the foreground in sharper focus by using a small aperture and a wide angle lens.

Oh, thank you! I am looking at the first pictures and nothing lead my eyes thru the image. That is what I am talking about. I would like to get more depth there.

I am not sure what you mean by this Artem. To me this is a beautiful scene and doesn't need much more that what it is. The idea of leading my eyes through the image is a rule that does not have to be followed to get a good image.If you had a small boat with an outboard motor placed in the bottom middle third of the lake and leaving a wake behind it as it moves straight to the opposite shore. That might give you what you want.

Autumn is tough, you need to find trees that are isolated with nice shapes, against a darker or lighter background so you have contrast. If you shoot wide, it's hard not to be uniformly orange. A nice trick to make your photos pop is to up colors individually. In this case, go to the colors panel and up both the saturation and luminance of orange and yellow, even white sometimes for the birch trunks. On the first photo, a few things are good. The framing from the right by the birch trees, and the two trees in the middle. But you need a more interesting sky, or fog, and it would be better if those two trees were backed by green pines. Of course, flying leaves add interest too.
In woodlands, use frames within frames, it's very powerful in autumn. On the second picture, it's too messy. You need to draw the eye to one or three or five trees (rule of odds), if you have like 20 trees, try to find 3 grouped white trunks in the middle of black trunks, this often makes for a very powerful image (again, not easy to find).

Thank you, Nick!
I suppose, your comment will be very useful for me.

For the first image I changed hue from yellow to orange and orange to red, so I have some green-yellow-orange-red colors.Also I've added some saturation and luminance. There were only yellow trees in the original photo.So,I've already worked with colors here.Maybe, The colors look little bit desaturated because of my red-blue color toning.The way I see it, the picture can be too overcooked If I up the saturation more.Probably, I am wrong.Anyway, I will try to work more with colors and will see the results.

I absolutely agree that the sky is very bad and boring.
Anyway, thank you for your opinion and comments!
I hope You'll stay and look at the final "corrected" image basing on your comment.

I've changed the picture basing your advises and I think that it is definitely better, but the trunks too white maybe.

No you can't really improve on that photo, you'd need to revisit the location (if you can) and either find a more balanced composition or a more isolated one. I visited a similar pond this week end myself, it was spectacular but I knew I couldn't shoot it wide it wouldn't work. There were foliage flying around but not enough. So instead I shot a group of 3 trees rather isolated from the rest, but I will revisit in a couple of weeks.Maybe you could also place yourself in the kiosk on the left of the image and use one of its opening as a frame ? I don't know.

oh yes, I understand what do you mean, but this pound is pretty long away from me, so I can't revisit this place soon.So now, all I can it is just a post-process the image in terms of the current composition.

Nick is spot-on, again. A few more pointers: Woodland by its very nature is chaotic and shooting with a wide-angle lens makes matters worse in most cases, simply because you capture even more of that chaos in the frame. There are 2 options, basically: You either bring order into chaos (see Nick's) suggestion or you have to isolate. To battle the chaos, use a telephoto lens, it will pick up less clutter because of the narrower viewing angle and you can simply blur distracting objects in the background.

As for your first picture and leading lines, this one I shot the other day has similar elements. See how I use the shoreline to direct the viewer's eye to the tree? Maybe something similar will work for your image, too.

Yes, I see.So, I will absolutely re-took my first shot later with the better thinking on the framing,composition, etc.

Thank you Thorsten!

Artem, since you can't get back to the location soon I suggest playing with crops on the first photo. I see the potential for several crops that might improve the image. Try a vertical crop of both the right side and left side of the frame. Try a horizontal as well as a vertical crop tight on the area of the gazebo. Keep playing with crops... it will help to see how you want to shoot the scene when you return.