just got this into another edit I'm way happier with it and some how..... i got a 1star rating??? oh well let me know what you guys think of my PS progress
Joseph, I don't know if you've already cropped the scene? If not, you might examine it to see if you can tighten up a center of interest. Sometimes a beautiful sweeping view just doesn't translate well into a photo. But if there is something in the scene that caught your eyes when you were there, see if you can find it in your photo and make it stronger. I cropped your 3rd photo and did some selective and hopefully subtle dodging and burning to bring out highlights and accentuate shadows in the area I feel is the center of interest. I also cropped a bit of the water reflection down so that the shoreline isn't so close to the horizontal center of the photo. What do you think?
i do like what you did here i was just annoyed at the fact that i was cropping so much of my first pano out but you are correct this is a better thanks Geoff
I know what you mean. Have had the same problem with some of my landscape photos...There's often a lot of neat little elements in a wider scene that I hate to crop out, but finding the center of interest and getting rid of elements that compete with that central focus usually makes the final composition stronger. Keep up the good work!
Joseph, here's my thought process looking at your 3rd photo. 1. The two small rocks on the far left at shore line are distracting. For some reason we don't like even numbers of items in a photo - our mind prefers to see odd numbers, so it was an easy choice to crop the far left rock. That also didn't crop anything important above it related to the center of interest so was a logical decision. 2. Far right shoreline. There's a dark spot at the far right edge with rocks that actually provides some natural interest, and competes with the main center of focus, the tree and rocks. So to sharpen the composition it seemed better to crop that competing element. 3. We love reflections on calm water, but keeping too much in a photo can again compete with the actual center of interest. Our minds also don't like having photos divided in the center. Trimming some of the water and reflection away and dropping the shoreline and center of interest down from the horizontal center makes a more eye-pleasing composition in most cases.
true the crazy thing is i know all of this from my art background but for some reason when i get behind a lens i want to get every nook cranny and little speck in the shot its something I'm definitely going to have to stand back and look at before i make my composition which you guessed it I'm struggling with I've got to stop looking at the pretty shot and make a shot
Hey Joseph! I like the colors in the third photo, I think why you might have gotten a low rating is because of the composition. It feels busy, and it's hard to tell what the point of interest or focus is. Feels busy. Some dodging/burning and a tighter crop might help!
I like the editing on the third one. The only think I’d like to see is a clear subject. Perhaps a portrait shot including the whole tree would have been nice. But that’s just my opinion.
Don’t worry about the star ratings too much. It seems either people feel they need to be overly-harsh for whatever reason, or they are just rating photos without any purpose. It seems for landscapes if you don’t have a grand vista with epic light, it’s a 2, maybe a 3. Almost every photo I’ve uploaded has been rated a 2 at some point without any feedback, including my latest one, which got a 2 about 30 seconds after I uploaded it. Just keep doing what you’re doing. I find this part of the website is a much better way to get actual human feedback.
You got it right in the 3rd photo. I love the Autumn tone in the leaves and the reflections are perfect. I feel this is your best so far 👍
IF someone is going to give a one star rating they SHOULD explain why and what they THINK can make it a 2, 3, 4 or even a 5 star
Its at least a 3 star maybe touching on a 4 star. Well worth putting in your portfolio Joseph 👍
I definately liked your progress. Good job :)
Maybe turn saturation down a smidge and then you got a really decent 3-star with #3 - great job Joseph!
Joseph, I also like the third photo. Nice job!
thanks guys your helping me improve by leaps and bounds!!! every little bit helps and i greatly appreciate all the feedback!!!
Joseph, I don't know if you've already cropped the scene? If not, you might examine it to see if you can tighten up a center of interest. Sometimes a beautiful sweeping view just doesn't translate well into a photo. But if there is something in the scene that caught your eyes when you were there, see if you can find it in your photo and make it stronger. I cropped your 3rd photo and did some selective and hopefully subtle dodging and burning to bring out highlights and accentuate shadows in the area I feel is the center of interest. I also cropped a bit of the water reflection down so that the shoreline isn't so close to the horizontal center of the photo. What do you think?
i do like what you did here i was just annoyed at the fact that i was cropping so much of my first pano out but you are correct this is a better thanks Geoff
I know what you mean. Have had the same problem with some of my landscape photos...There's often a lot of neat little elements in a wider scene that I hate to crop out, but finding the center of interest and getting rid of elements that compete with that central focus usually makes the final composition stronger. Keep up the good work!
great advice ...i just have to follow it haha. appreciate it
Joseph, here's my thought process looking at your 3rd photo. 1. The two small rocks on the far left at shore line are distracting. For some reason we don't like even numbers of items in a photo - our mind prefers to see odd numbers, so it was an easy choice to crop the far left rock. That also didn't crop anything important above it related to the center of interest so was a logical decision. 2. Far right shoreline. There's a dark spot at the far right edge with rocks that actually provides some natural interest, and competes with the main center of focus, the tree and rocks. So to sharpen the composition it seemed better to crop that competing element. 3. We love reflections on calm water, but keeping too much in a photo can again compete with the actual center of interest. Our minds also don't like having photos divided in the center. Trimming some of the water and reflection away and dropping the shoreline and center of interest down from the horizontal center makes a more eye-pleasing composition in most cases.
true the crazy thing is i know all of this from my art background but for some reason when i get behind a lens i want to get every nook cranny and little speck in the shot its something I'm definitely going to have to stand back and look at before i make my composition which you guessed it I'm struggling with I've got to stop looking at the pretty shot and make a shot
As Geoff said, you need a center of interest/subject. Love the colors though.
Third is great for color
Hey Joseph! I like the colors in the third photo, I think why you might have gotten a low rating is because of the composition. It feels busy, and it's hard to tell what the point of interest or focus is. Feels busy. Some dodging/burning and a tighter crop might help!
Oof, right as I posted this I saw Geoff already touched on that. What Geoff said! haha
I like the editing on the third one. The only think I’d like to see is a clear subject. Perhaps a portrait shot including the whole tree would have been nice. But that’s just my opinion.
Don’t worry about the star ratings too much. It seems either people feel they need to be overly-harsh for whatever reason, or they are just rating photos without any purpose. It seems for landscapes if you don’t have a grand vista with epic light, it’s a 2, maybe a 3. Almost every photo I’ve uploaded has been rated a 2 at some point without any feedback, including my latest one, which got a 2 about 30 seconds after I uploaded it. Just keep doing what you’re doing. I find this part of the website is a much better way to get actual human feedback.
thanks Jordan your right on all counts there was another great reflection shot i spotted the other day and i think i will return to that
I really appreciate seeing your progression, and the composition comments, example. You guys make this a great place to learn.