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Lucifer Falls

Going through some older images and trying some new editing techniques. This is a shot I took last fall at Robert H Treman State Park in Ithaca, NY.

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Ok, what would you do to improve the shot?

1) Let's start with a crop. See if you can pinpoint where the focal point is in your image. Place the focal point either at the top, bottom, left or right. 2) if a filter was used, remove it as you're dealing with a very dark area to begin with. 3) was the image adjusted or tampered with.. Remove all edits. I want to see the original. Let's get you back on track by learning the basics. The next posted picture here should be one without edits, with a small crop. Then we'll go from there.

Looks like Amp Lighter left. I guess this group wasn't up to his standards.

Oh no, what ever shall we do without the self proclaimed "Gordon Ramsay of photography critiques". I guess he finally realized if you have the personality of Ramsay but lack the accolades, skill, and respect, all you're left with is an a**hole.

I give his run here a D-

Ian, was there no way you could get down to the base of the falls? Or at least some way further down where you could take a front-facing shot?

unfortunantly no. the falls were engorged from a recent storm and the conditions were very icy.

Sorry for the late reply, Ian. I was travelling. Ok. Maybe another time when you can get a slightly different composition and perspective. I think this would work much better front-on, or at least at a near-font-on angle. Perpendicular to the waterfall isn't bringing out the best in the scene. Hopefully the next time you go back, it will be more accessible.

I’m on my phone so this is based on a small screen, but I like the leading line to the waterfall, and the processing is nicely done. The contrast of the water surrounded by the dark autumn landscape really works for me. My phone screen is pretty dark, but I’m having no trouble seeing the details within the shadows.

The only think I’d change is the fact that the base of the waterfall is being cut off.

Overall, a nice composition and a good job processing it.

Thank you, Jordan. If you get a chance i would love to hear what you think when you cans see it on a monitor.

On my PC it's much brighter and very easy to see the details. However, now that I can see that detail, I'd personally move the lens downward a little bit, to get the bottom of the waterfall and remove some of the empty space at the top, but not too much. But the processing is still spot on, in my eyes.

Still nicely done! Haha

Thank you for the input. I have to agree that a step to the left and a half degree down would have made this shot come together better. Hopefully I can get back befor they close the trail for winter.

if you can revisit this location i would take 2 or 3 portrait shots and merge them thats a big waterfall with a ton of details around. i just think you tried to get in as much as you could and rightfully so. editing is a bit dark and i like dark but there is a difference of being dark and being dark and retaining detail make 2 or 3 layers 1 medium 1light 1 dark use the elements you like from each and erase the rest i believe you will get more life out of it but this is a gorgeous area let me know when you go up again i might tag along

I will definitely go back. it was a very flat day that day so my hope is to get back soon before they close the trail for winter.

Ian I find that the line of the wall competes against the line of the waterfall. I wonder if there's a composition you could try next time that would put them more in concert?

Which new editing techniques were you trying?

For me it's just a bit dull without some nice light to create some magic. But hey, we all have different opinions and yours in the one that matters :)

I tried a different approach to how I dodge/burn, color selections, and general photoshop techniques. I was a mostly Lightroom user and have started to get more into some harder Photoshop processing.

Also, I see what you mean about the competing lines. I love this spot but it is a very narrow canyon. I will definitely get back there.

I love the colors Ian and I like the leading line of the wall. If you go back Make sure you get a natural break at the bottom on the falls (if possible) and exposure stack. I would also do the same shutter but cover yourself by doing slightly faster for more texture. Lovely place.

Wow, that is a really beautiful scene! I do agree with Jordan that it may be better to angle the lens down just a touch to capture the bottom of the waterfall, too.

I love the leading line of the rock wall and path going up the right side. Also, the dark rock contrasting the white water is really nice. Excellent shot!