Drove around my surroundings and captured this frame. Early morning For filesize management and phone size use edited. So can look oversharpened on regular monitor
Hi Mik, this immediately grabbed my attention due to its simple and pleasing approach.
I love the way the image is layered, with a dark and demanding foreground trees and those well-defined in the background.
The one thing that pulls me away is the isolated tree on the left. For me this unbalances the image and causes distraction.
This is all personal taste of course (and please don't change if it does not match your own) but I absolutely love the image without. I have included a crop just for comparison
This also grabbed my attention but I rather like the tree on the left and it's an image that works so well in black and white 😁
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What exactly does oversharpened mean? I'm not too well-versed in the details of the magic my PS does... but I know if I oversharpen an image it gets pixelated. Is that what oversharpened means here?
In the composition arena... I guess I'm in the Tony camp on the lone tree to the left, but it feels like the tree is cramped up against the left margin of the shot. As Alan said... this may be a purely personal taste thing... but I wonder if a little more space between the left tree and the edge of the shot would make things different in the shot? It's an exceptional image already with the gradations of B&W.
Usually, when someone over-sharpens an image, the results are typified by halos around high-contrast details. In this example, I've applied WAY too much sharpening just to make the point, but if you look closely at Mik's original, you can see some very slight halos around the tree tops. I don't feel his image is too far gone and I realize that at the relatively small sizes we use here, even a little bit of sharpening goes a long way.
Totally agree about the composition. More space at left would have helped. Alan's crop also deals with the issue, but I think he takes off a little more at left than I would, so now the group of bigger trees is a little close the edge. I'd crop at right as he did. It's a very fine balance!
It's interesting how, as we all apply different skill sets, there can be two, maybe three different pictures made from Mik's original image. All justifiable according to the goal of the task.
I come to photography from a world of words... trying to be a fiction author. I can write three different stories from the same theme. It's neat to get perspective on editing from within a different medium.
I find those parallels between different creative activities fascinating. Mik's right, in that cropping off the loner changes the way the scene can be perceived or interpreted. Now I feel sorry for the lone tree, so...
Chris , thanks for your input and the reply from Cathleen. The reason for not cropping the Left tree was a narrative reason— group vs loner kind of narrative But i agree on the comments ; too close for comfort on the Left side of the frame. On to the next :)
You guys are awesome! My people. And talking my language. Narrative. The lone tree as a balance to the herd of other. Wacky tangent... the Air Force put me through a radar training course (but I didn't pass the flight physical, no AWACS duty for me) ...as all these other narratives of the lone tree emerged, my brain said... radar dish, wave guide.
Wow! I have waayyyyy too much time on my hands. 🙃
I've been in final edit mode for a few months now on my hopefully first publishable novel. Wandered back to the photography hobby as a distraction while I got sidelined by some health doodoo. Now I realize it's nothing so casual as distraction.
Photography/writing equals editing. LOL The muse is a sneaky therapist.
Thanks for the input. The Left tree 😊... Yes i know what you mean. IT is a bit a choice between 2 evils ( as a figure of speech) i took the shot to close to the Edgar of the frame - tree-wise- ;) but i also like the fact that iT stands out on its own in al the gradient bnw. But i get what you mean by to close to the edge of the frame.
The oversharpen; no iT is not that is pixelated but fot insta or web use in general you oversharpen your image to give iT that crisp look and feel online ( smartphone mainly) but iT tends to loose its detail on big screens and the size . Sorry for the Stephan King reference IT 😂 Stupid smartphone autocorrection
Thanks for the laughter at the end. I waasss pondering the unique style of "iT."
My editing skills are still rudimentary, and I use my phone far more than I should. Must get onto the laptop more. Thanks for the oversharpening education. :)
Hi Mik, this immediately grabbed my attention due to its simple and pleasing approach.
I love the way the image is layered, with a dark and demanding foreground trees and those well-defined in the background.
The one thing that pulls me away is the isolated tree on the left. For me this unbalances the image and causes distraction.
This is all personal taste of course (and please don't change if it does not match your own) but I absolutely love the image without. I have included a crop just for comparison
This also grabbed my attention but I rather like the tree on the left and it's an image that works so well in black and white 😁
What exactly does oversharpened mean? I'm not too well-versed in the details of the magic my PS does... but I know if I oversharpen an image it gets pixelated. Is that what oversharpened means here?
In the composition arena... I guess I'm in the Tony camp on the lone tree to the left, but it feels like the tree is cramped up against the left margin of the shot. As Alan said... this may be a purely personal taste thing... but I wonder if a little more space between the left tree and the edge of the shot would make things different in the shot? It's an exceptional image already with the gradations of B&W.
Usually, when someone over-sharpens an image, the results are typified by halos around high-contrast details. In this example, I've applied WAY too much sharpening just to make the point, but if you look closely at Mik's original, you can see some very slight halos around the tree tops. I don't feel his image is too far gone and I realize that at the relatively small sizes we use here, even a little bit of sharpening goes a long way.
Ok, seeing the image exagerated in over sharpening helps me wrap my head around the concept.
I think I have a boat load of re-editing ahead of me. Haha.
Totally agree about the composition. More space at left would have helped. Alan's crop also deals with the issue, but I think he takes off a little more at left than I would, so now the group of bigger trees is a little close the edge. I'd crop at right as he did. It's a very fine balance!
Good image, Mik.
It's interesting how, as we all apply different skill sets, there can be two, maybe three different pictures made from Mik's original image. All justifiable according to the goal of the task.
I come to photography from a world of words... trying to be a fiction author. I can write three different stories from the same theme. It's neat to get perspective on editing from within a different medium.
I find those parallels between different creative activities fascinating. Mik's right, in that cropping off the loner changes the way the scene can be perceived or interpreted. Now I feel sorry for the lone tree, so...
😂
Chris , thanks for your input and the reply from Cathleen. The reason for not cropping the Left tree was a narrative reason— group vs loner kind of narrative But i agree on the comments ; too close for comfort on the Left side of the frame. On to the next :)
You guys are awesome! My people. And talking my language. Narrative. The lone tree as a balance to the herd of other. Wacky tangent... the Air Force put me through a radar training course (but I didn't pass the flight physical, no AWACS duty for me) ...as all these other narratives of the lone tree emerged, my brain said... radar dish, wave guide.
Wow! I have waayyyyy too much time on my hands. 🙃
I've been in final edit mode for a few months now on my hopefully first publishable novel. Wandered back to the photography hobby as a distraction while I got sidelined by some health doodoo. Now I realize it's nothing so casual as distraction.
Photography/writing equals editing. LOL The muse is a sneaky therapist.
Thanks for the input. The Left tree 😊... Yes i know what you mean. IT is a bit a choice between 2 evils ( as a figure of speech) i took the shot to close to the Edgar of the frame - tree-wise- ;) but i also like the fact that iT stands out on its own in al the gradient bnw. But i get what you mean by to close to the edge of the frame.
The oversharpen; no iT is not that is pixelated but fot insta or web use in general you oversharpen your image to give iT that crisp look and feel online ( smartphone mainly) but iT tends to loose its detail on big screens and the size . Sorry for the Stephan King reference IT 😂 Stupid smartphone autocorrection
Thanks for the laughter at the end. I waasss pondering the unique style of "iT."
My editing skills are still rudimentary, and I use my phone far more than I should. Must get onto the laptop more. Thanks for the oversharpening education. :)