I Wish I'd Known This Before I Moved to Sony

I Wish I'd Known This Before I Moved to Sony

It’s been four months since I made the transition from my beloved Canon 6D to the much-revered Sony a7 III. There are many things that I love about this new camera, but there’s one thing that’s proving to be a problem.

With every upgrade, whether it’s glass, lights, or a shiny new camera body, there’s usually a tradeoff: for example, if you upgrade your 50mm from f/1.8 to f/1.4, you can be sure it’s going to be a lot bigger and heavier. With a long-term camera body upgrade, it’s a little more complex, and you typically open up a world of new features — better autofocus, greater dynamic range, improved low-light performance. Occasionally, there’s a compromise to be made along the way, and with the move from DSLR to mirrorless, there’s one in particular that I’d not considered — or understood — fully when making the switch: lag.

Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of things that I love about the a7 III that have made the transition a joy: the smaller body, the burst speed, the EVF, the customizable buttons and the menus, and, above all, the eye autofocus has been a bit of a gamechanger. However, having since photographed a couple of events, there’s an undeniable lag that very occasionally causes me to miss shots. As I started to investigate whether I was imagining it, I discovered something of a rabbit hole.

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When I spent three days testing a rented a7 III last year in Belgrade prior to my purchase, I was shooting choreographed action and clothing — all controlled situations where responding to sudden or unexpected movements was not called for. Any lag was not really a factor. In the past, I’d relied on my timing to capture athletes at just the right moment using my 6D; with the a7, I was exploiting the glorious ten frames per second and was much more efficient as a result. 

Events are somewhat different, however. While I can anticipate a lot, there are plenty of occasions when something happens when I need to react quickly, and it took a little while to tweak my settings so that the a7 doesn’t fall asleep too readily. The start-up time is markedly slower than a DSLR (my 6D was instantaneous), and it’s fortunate that the events that I shoot are not critical. There’s typically plenty of repetition, and while it can certainly be frustrating to miss shots, it’s not the end of the world.

Test Your Rental Properly

During my tests in Belgrade, I was shooting on burst mode for the first time since selling my beloved Canon 1D Mark II (oh, how we miss you, APS-H!). When upgrading from my original 5D, I had the choice between the 5D Mark III and the 6D; one offered a decent burst rate in a massive body, the latter a fairly unusable burst rate in a much smaller body and at almost half the price. I opted for the 6D and loved it. As a result, my ability to time action shots is something I’m now quite proud of — useful for those occasions when I shoot with strobes.

The Sony’s 10 frames per second might be wonderful, but I can’t spray and pray at events, as it’s simply not practical. Instead, I frequently shoot single images, and this is where I occasionally noticed a lag. Over the last three months, there have been a few instances where I’ve missed a shot — and yes, I’ve pre-focused — because my timing has been off by a fraction of a second. With time, I can adjust, but I started to wonder how many moments I would miss before my trigger finger was back on point.

A few weeks ago, I wrote an article reflecting on why so many press photographers are sticking with the DSLRs, and this was one element that I hadn’t fully considered. When you’re shooting high-pressure, fast-moving events, a fraction of a second can be the difference between a decent photograph and an award-winning photograph. Worse than that, it might mean missing a shot completely. Some of the comments suggested that lag was one of the issues that meant that the majority photojournalists will be sticking with DSLRs for the foreseeable future.

Not Slow Simple

As I started digging around to find out whether the lag that I was occasionally noticing was user error (much more likely, in my experience), I realized that things were a little more complex than I anticipated. 

Adapted lenses and the electronic front curtain shutter also seem to play a huge role (and when I say “huge,” please keep in mind that we’re talking milliseconds, so take that with a pinch of salt). From what I’ve gathered, shooting with adapted lenses causes a bigger lag, regardless of autofocus. Softening the transition to Sony, I’m currently shooting primarily with my Canon 16-35mm f/2.8 Mark II, and given that I can prefocus the vast majority of the time, the limited autofocus compared to a native lens has not yet been an issue. However, I’m keen to swap it out a little sooner if it’s truly the case that adapted lenses create a larger lag, as this video suggests.

The other factor explored in this video is the electronic front curtain shutter. This now gets incredibly geeky and starts to go a little more techie than I’m usually comfortable. Using EFCS (and it’s switched on by default) causes the camera to swap out the mechanical shutter at the start of an exposure and use an electronic shutter instead. (Shooting in silent mode simply swaps out mechanical shutter at the end of an exposure, too). This can reduce camera shake (called “shutter shock,” as I understand it) for longer exposures, but can cause banding and ghosting. 

What I’ve since realized is that I switched off EFCS after having watched this video from photographer Manny Ortiz, as I’d been shooting some portraits and wanted to see the difference, as it turns out that using EFCS reduces bokeh. I switched it off, and, of course, I’d then completely forgot about it. I’d bought myself a shiny new camera and inadvertently crippled it. Genius. Fortunately, I’ve been primarily shooting in silent mode at recent events (i.e., switching EFCS back on without realizing), and I think the lag that I’d been experiencing was probably only when I was shooting in regular old noisy mode instead.

TLDR EFCS

In summary:

  • if you want to maximize bokeh, switch EFCS off (and keep in mind that silent mode will switch it back on)
  • if you’re shooting action and need to minimize the lag between you pushing the button and the image being captured, keep EFCS switched on

Unfortunately, there's a bit more to it than this.

As the Sony website explains: “We recommend to turn this function off whenever you’re shooting with fast shutter speeds, with a large diameter lens attached to prevent ghosting and blurring from happening.”

This does present something of a problem for very specific scenarios. As Sony ambassador Mark Galen points out in this video, switching on the EFCS not only increases the maximum frame rate, but reduces the lag time. Here’s the problem: if you’re shooting action at 1/4000th of a second using a large lens (apparently, aperture isn’t a factor), you want the shortest possible lag, so you want EFCS on. However, to avoid ghosting, you want EFCS off. I’ve yet to come across anyone who’s run into problem,s but I might find out during some jobs shooting parkour indoors in June, as we will be relying on strobes and high speed sync. Cross your fingers for me.

One Final Factor

With an optical viewfinder, there’s a fraction of a second between the moment you press the shutter button and the moment that the mirror flaps out of the way and the aperture captures your image. With an EVF, you have to add to that the amount of time it takes for the camera to take the light that’s hitting the sensor and convert it into something digital and visible. All of the tests that I’ve found so far don’t seem to take into account the delay that the EVF introduces. As I understand it, that tiny extra lag, however small it might be, is still something that means that DSLRs are still the best choice when it comes to capturing unpredictable action. If you any insights on the amount of time that elapses between reality and what appears on the display of a Sony a7 III, I’d be keen to find out.

Know Your Gear

While I don’t regret the move to mirrorless in any way, this is definitely an area that I hadn’t explored properly when testing the a7. Each upgrade comes with its own pros and cons, and fortunately, however many shots I might miss thanks to the increased lag (if it even exists), there will be countless others that I will achieve as a result of the 10 frames per second. On balance, the upgrade is more than worth it, especially now I know that the biggest factor was probably my own naivety. 

My final thought: if you’re pondering the transition from DSLR, make sure to take this into consideration and shoot a rental in a variety of scenarios before taking the plunge. As usual, I welcome your thoughts in the comments.

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Andy Day is a British photographer and writer living in France. He began photographing parkour in 2003 and has been doing weird things in the city and elsewhere ever since. He's addicted to climbing and owns a fairly useless dog. He has an MA in Sociology & Photography which often makes him ponder what all of this really means.

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It is this that is keeping me from changing to Sony.
Not only when on fast paced events, but when shooting astro.
I had the chance to go play with the A7 II, an amazing camera but still, the time I had to wait in between exposures of the milky way was way too long! The A7II took me almost the same time as the exposure just to display the picture on the screen, which to me is a killer.
As a gammer I HATE LAG so I'm kind of Lag Intolerant so to speak.
Not to mention the fact that, as the battery goes down, I felt the AF getting slower and slower :(

Damn man, you Sony users are salty as F!! It is true, not BS as you state, the time it takes for the A7II to preview a long exposure is enormous! When my friend saw the peview of his 30s exposure, I was already 5 or more seconds into my second shot! Yes the camera has lag, so do please try out a Nikon or Canon versus a Sony and you'll see for yourself.

Paulo, with all due respect, you've just demonstrated that your friend doesn't know how to use his camera. The sony bodies do this "long exposure noise reduction" trick where they take a black frame with the same exposure time right after a long shot -and uses this black frame to subtract noise from the frame. Any serious astrophotographer will disable this function and take manual black frames (or many of them) and subtract the noise in post. This isn't *lag*, it's a simple function of the camera you and turn on or off. As for being salty, I'm underwater most of the time so I'm exceptionally salty. However, I shoot on both canon and sony bodies; both are nice and have different capabilities.

Well, If he was shooting RAW, why was his camera applying NR to the file? Shouldn't raw files be that? RAW
I shoot Canon and Nikon, I have no beef on brands, actually, if the tool is good I will say nothing. And Sony cameras are damn good, but that thing made me anxious on changing brands.

Well, it's in the manual, if you don't want it you can just shut it off. https://helpguide.sony.net/gbmig/44840601/v1/eng/contents/TP0000226624.html

and since Canon and Nikon do that too, it is not Sony issue anyway :)

Moral of this story... The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

This is absolutely true. I switched to an a7Riii from Nikon d750 and the shutter lag is my biggest gripe. You can't just feather off shots like on most dslrs, but must turn it on burst shooting if you think you're gonna need to take a lot of shots quickly. Fortunately, this is not nearly as bad a problem on most other current model full frame mirrorless cameras. Nikon Z cameras and even aps-c Fuji Xh1 among others have much more responsive shutter action. The next gen of Sony cameras better address a host of ergonomic and shooting experience issues.

I recently bought the Canon EOSR and I love it BUT I still kept my 5D and there's something about shooting on a DSLR that I still love. Not only does it feel quicker but having a larger camera in my hand feels better and more functional. Everything feels more responsive on the DSLR. I'm sure it it will improve with mirrorless cameras over time but I still love DSLR's.

EFCS doesn't not stay on after switching back from silent mode, not on my camera at least! Just checked it

Hello Andy,

I was wondering if "Finder Frame Rate" set to "High"? It's disabled by default. I shoot a bit of action sports and found this tremendously helping in getting the exact frame, it's not the Canon/Nikon high end quality but it's good enough for me.

It was an issue in the A7ii and A7Rii and I really had to pre-empt quite a bit to catch the shot.

Ta. Will check.

Interface lag in this day and age is unacceptable in any electronic device. Easily avoidable, either utilize a faster processor, which is typically quite an inexpensive upgrade, or design he device within the limits of the hardware that allow for a responsive interface. Car manufacturers took about a decade to finally realize how important responsiveness in their infotainment systems is.

So you dumped Canon, spent a wad of money on Sony.
Cool.
I bought a "old" Canon 1D Mark III with a shutter count of a little over 6,000 for $500.00.
I found a 1Ds Mark III for 600.00
Maybe they don't have all the new bells and whistles
But
The 1D,also shoots 10 frames a second, no lag.
Over 2,000 shots on a battery.
Two "old" Pro Bodies for 1,100.
Fools and their money.

I'd love to carry a 1D mark III around but I can't because it's HUGE. Most of my work happens via budget airlines and carry-on so my gear is quite minimal. Plus, I love the EVF and the DR and the eye autofocus allows me to get shots that I simply wouldn't otherwise. I'm incredibly happy with my purchase and i hope you're equally happy with yours.

Of course your mileage will vary but you can always trust that people on the internet won't let that fact stand in the way of a snarky comment.

Then go back to Canon. I don't miss my 5D mkiii in the slightest. It was truly uninspiring for me. Talk about lag, I have zero lag even using Canon lenses with a metebones on the A7iii. Focus is quick always. The low-light capabilities of the A7iii is astounding. So it doesn't work in your workflow, so change. I did, and the A7iii is rocking my world.

"While I don’t regret the move to mirrorless in any way" At least read the article before commenting! 😂

There may be an initial lag cp a DSLR but then in a burst? The D500 has been measured to be blacked out for 60% of the time.

I moved from Nikon a D850 to a Sony A7R3 and noticed, lag, moving the af joystick is slow, the evf is slow to start, the compensation, iso dials etc, movement of the menu is very slow compared to others, I wonder if this is different on the a9, I look forward to seeing what the new models are like, the glass is amazing 24 1.4 and the 135, so I am setup for future bodies, I hope they fix a few things, and also the shutter button design

Good article Andy. Enjoyed reading it. I am having a similar issue as per your article. I did the switch from Sony 7ii/7rii to Nikon DSLR (secondhand D3s) two years ago for fast action indoor sports work because of the EVF lag. The way I shoot also compounded the problem; single shot mode with ttl fill flash to achieve the results I wanted and to limit the number of photos I have to process. 4000 photos in one event even with single shot mode. Burst mode would make post processing quite unbearable. Still use the Sony gear for other types of work. The 10 years old D3s (with two Tamron f2.8 zooms) managed to deliver what I wanted at a fiction of the costs on Sony gear . I am happy and the clients are very happy. I am thinking of upgrading to Sony A7iii/A9 to see if my Sony gear (with the whole set of Sony native GM lenses) can be used for the fast action indoor sports work as well. I have been doing some research prior to taking the plunge. One Olympus Ambassador told me that "EVF lag is a thing of the past" in his effort to promote the Olympus E-M1x. I started a thread on dpreview entitled "Is EVF lag a thing of past?" and realized that photographers are SO passionate about their gear. I guess A7 iii is pretty much off my list. I wonder if A9 can deliver? Again, the question is specific to my indoor sports requirements. I am sure A7III and A9 are great for 99% of users who don't do much indoor sports or shoot the way I do. Alternatively, just sell my Sony gear and get some Leica lenses which are currently being traded as an inflation busting commodity ;-)