Sunbather 'Ruins' Wedding Photos by Refusing to Move Out of Shot: Who Is in the Right?

Sunbather 'Ruins' Wedding Photos by Refusing to Move Out of Shot: Who Is in the Right?

Photoshoots in public spaces are never without hurdles, particularly if they inadvertently involve members of the public. Case in point: the family whose wedding photo story is making headlines after they complained a female sunbather “ruined” their pictures after refusing to move out of shot.

Mark Ling, 49, and Mandy Cripwell, 35, got married on Saturday before heading to a nearby park, Tessier Gardens in Torquay, England, which happens to be a local hotspot for wedding pictures.

The groom’s son, Marcus Ling, recalls:

I went up to her and asked her to move and she pretended to be asleep. Later she was asked to move again by the limo driver and she did but she left her stuff in plain view. It's a well-known wedding spot where you have photos taken, so she would have known it goes on there. Half of Torquay have their wedding photos in that garden.

Another of the groom’s relatives, Natalie Ling, added, “She was surrounded by wedding guests, the couple were behind her and the photographer kept calling different people over for pictures — so she knew what was going on.”

According to the family, the predicament continued for 10 minutes before the sunbather decided to relocate, although apparently she decided to leave all her belongings where they were.

Naturally, we’re all aware how frustrating it can be when members of the public happen to be in shot. On the one hand, most sunbathers would have moved instinctively had they been surrounded by a camera crew and wedding party, intimidated by the size of the party and the prospect of being in shot. However, it seems the approach the wedding crew took of asking her to move rubbed her up the wrong way, and instead she decided to stay put. Noting the importance of their day, do you think the bride and groom had the right to take over the park? Or was the sunbather entitled to the space since she arrived first? Who was in the right here?

Lead image by Hisu lee via Unsplash.

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Chris Spicks's picture

Do you know how much time the sunbather had?
Do you know how she was approached by the photogs?
Do you know what they asked her to do.. Move or leave?

I can't walk into Walmart and do a photoshoot on the toy isle and expect everyone to stop shopping while I do it.

David Pavlich's picture

Doesn't matter if the sunbather was there for two weeks. Public area.
No, we don't know, but it's a PUBLIC AREA. She has no reason to move.
No, we don't know, repeat the second sentence.

You're right, you can't walk into a Wal Mart or a Costco or Publix or a K-Mart or Marshall's and expect everyone to stop; IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!!!! Chances are you'd be told to leave by security.

Motti Bembaron's picture

I do not have the answer to all your questions. However, if all things equal -that is the person was asked nicely to give the wedding party a few minutes- it's just basic courtesy, that's it.

The park is a common place for wedding photography, Walmart is a private property. Mind you, I am sure if you asked a Walmart manager he/she would likely allow you to take wedding photos there (if you so incline). Free promotion.

michaeljin's picture

A Walmart manager technically does not have the authority to give you permission to take wedding photos there. Just FYI. Corporations, liability, and such...

Motti Bembaron's picture

Probably not, you'r right.

Crystal Johnson's picture

She was asked multiple times tho, and probably only moved for fear of what this party might do. The wedding party is pretty entitled to harass a sunbather at a public park.

Motti Bembaron's picture

Nowhere I saw that she actually moved. You assume more than you know. For all you know this person is a genuine self righteous jerk. Like you, I just assume.

Crystal Johnson's picture

Apparently you did not read the article "the predicament continued for 10 minutes before the sunbather decided to relocate" . She relocated because she was asked yet again by the limo driver. Which is, again, in the article. That = harassment. She has the freedom and right to enjoy the park without being harassed.

How am I a self righteous jerk? Because I believe the sunbather was in the right, and the wedding party was in the wrong? Because I believe the wedding party was acting like entitled pricks for assuming they have superiority over a PUBLIC park? She was there FIRST, period! Why does her day have to be ruined because some wedding party decided to crash it? The photographer and couple should have scouted for better locations BEFORE doing photos, esp in a well known PUBLIC park.

Kindness does go a long way, but where was the kindness shown to her? Why is her time valued less? Because of some poorly planned wedding photographer did not take into consideration that people might be at a PUBLIC park?

What's self righteous is a couple, their family, friends and photographer (if you google the story you will see the trash they are talking), are DEMONIZING this lady that was just enjoying her day. You don't know if this lady was having a very rough day, and needed a break in the park. It's pretty judgemental and self righteous of you to ASSume this woman is a jerk, and unkind. Kindness was not shown to her by an ENTITLED wedding party that video taped her.

But hey, whatever. I'm just making assumptions right? I mean, not like there is an article above that shows the harassment and entitlement from this horrid wedding party.

Jacques Cornell's picture

How about some basic kindness from the wedding conglomerate?

Motti Bembaron's picture

Not sure what you mean. Asking her to let them take some photos was unkind? So if someone is in your way and you politely ask them to move aside for a bit, you are being unkind?

You can ask, they can always say no but if they courteous they might oblige.

Jacques Cornell's picture

Bitching after the fact and in public about their unwillingness to move is unkind. Asking is not unkind, but refusing to gracefully take "no" for an answer is.
The photographer is the real problem here. He led his clients into a public situation where they'd have no control and and didn't prepare them or himself to deal with the possible complications.

George Kunze's picture

the headline is wrong, the subather did nothing. this headline accuses her of ruining the photos. the photographer, if anyone , ruined the photos.

Jen Photographs's picture

I poked around a bit online. While I couldn't find whether photography or usage permits are required for this garden, I did discover that children are not allowed in this garden, even if they're accompanied by adults.

So this wedding party was in error on that count.

As for the matter of sunbather vs the wedding party, it sounds like people got off on the wrong foot, and the whole to-do could've been avoided if both camps had made concessions.

Simon Patterson's picture

Nobody is completely in the right here.

michaeljin's picture

No, the sunbather is completely in the right. The fact that it was this couple's "special day" has nothing to do with the sunbather or anyone else. Sure, it would have been kind of the sunbather to move, but why? What would she get out of the inconvenience? You could say that she would get the satisfaction of being a courteous person, but maybe that's not something that she happens to get satisfaction from. If it was that important to them, maybe they should have offered her $100 to pick up and sunbathe a few yards away.

Simon Patterson's picture

I agree it would have been kind for her to move. She was not kind when she could have been, therefore she was not completely in the right, morally.

Jacques Cornell's picture

Then neither were the couple nor the photographer "kind" either.

Simon Patterson's picture

Exactly. As I said, nobody is completely in the right here.

Adam Palmer's picture

Whoever was there first gets the spot. I've found if you ask really nicely people will move though.

Perfect example of what's wrong today in the big picture of things. This whole thread is about who is right? We are no longer civil, people think it's more important to be right.. What happened to being civil, considerate, thoughtful, thinking of others. How about plain old just being nice. Nobody is more important than anybody else. Nobody is better than anybody else. I'm not talking about pie in the sky crap either. smh

Crystal Johnson's picture

That's a one sided view if you look at it. So, the sunbather, who was there first at this public park should be thinking about other people? Where's the consideration and thoughtfulness of the sunbather by the wedding party? Why is it assumed by some that the wedding party trumped the rights of the sunbather? Because it's supposedly a special day?

What makes you think he is siding with the wedding party?

Crystal Johnson's picture

Because his rant is directly related to the posts on here, and how the vast majority are in support of the sunbather.

So,… you jumped to a conclusion, without actually asking. That was my secondary, minor point.

My major point was that all which he said applies both ways. (I.e., it does not matter with whom he was or was not siding). The wedding party could have been more considerate, the sunbather could have been more considerate. He starts by saying that it is not about who is right, (probably from his rant, the sunbather), but why don't we all, “consider others better than yourselves,” (including the wedding party).

I think his rant was a general rant about human behavior, and not about taking a side on who is right.

…because I don't live on the Internet. I had a great weekend with my son.

Daniel Folkers's picture

Duuuude. If someone interrupted my nap in a public park because of wedding photos... that would be infuriating. I wonder what's going to happen when she (the sun bather) finds out that this video of her chilling in a bathing suit is making the rounds on the internet. Bad form, wedding peeps, bad form.

if she gets upset for being filmed practically naked, that's her problem. She has no expectation of privacy in a public park.

Jacques Cornell's picture

But being bitched about is quite different from simply being photographed.

I just liked a bunch of comments here. Maybe they asked politely but she refused. Maybe. Let it go.

People can be slightly selfish and slightly inconvenience others. If they do not do harm to others or cause risk, just let it slide right.

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