If the Canon 1D X Mark III Is This Good, Why Would Sports Shooters Ever Want a Mirrorless Version?

If the Canon 1D X Mark III Is This Good, Why Would Sports Shooters Ever Want a Mirrorless Version?

Declaring the DSLR dead is premature. Sports and news image agencies are so heavily invested in bodies and glass that the shift was always going to take a while, but the Canon 1D X Mark III might have just put the use-by date on DSLRs back even further.

With the brand new, much-hyped, greatly anticipated Canon 1D X Mark III starting to appear in the hands of professional photographers, we’re beginning to get a much clearer idea of how it performs. According to long-time NFL shooter Peter Read Miller, the 1D X Mark III is a something of a game-changer when it comes to autofocus performance, and if the buffer never fills up (okay okay, 1,000 raw files), sports shooters might be waiting some considerable years before finding that mirrorless offers them something that they genuinely need.

Last Year's Resolution?

For those wondering if the resolution of the 1D X III still cuts it at a time when Sony regards 20 megapixels as the amount they add as an incremental upgrade, you might want to rethink. Just because Canon may have a 75-megapixel (or more?) mirrorless beast waiting in the wings doesn’t mean that insane levels of resolution are what everyone in the industry needs — least of all those needing to turn around huge amounts of files in very tight timeframes. As Read Miller mentions briefly, he can shoot at 20 megapixels and still punch in as required, so why would he want to slow Photo Mechanic and Lightroom to a crawl when most images appear on the web, and sports pages just don’t need the dots per inch that billboards require? That’s before you consider the need to send these files as quickly as possible so that those images can be published before the game has even finished.

Eye a What?

EVF aside, the 1D X arguably lacks one significant aspect over mirrorless: eye autofocus. Given that head and face tracking on the 1D X Mark III seems to be more than adequate for shooting an NFL game, eye autofocus doesn’t strike me as something that too many of those wielding 400mm lenses on the sidelines are going to be hankering for. Of course, it would be nice, but when Read Miller reports that he’s already getting way more keepers — even when he’s shooting through his 1.4 extender — eye tracking might just be a nice idea rather than something that anyone feels is missing.

Canon 1D X Mark II - Andy Day

An architecture commission with a twist (they weren't always standing still) — one of my recent reasons to rent a 1D X Mark II.

The longevity of the Nikon and Canon DSLR in the face of competition from the Sony a9 II isn’t the conversation that people often think it is. Regardless of small variations in megapixels and frame rates, this is about whether Canon has produced a camera that means that agencies are going to be sticking with what they’ve got for the foreseeable future. Right now, if you’ve got half a million dollars’ worth of EF glass sitting on a shelf ready for your team of photographers to use, you’re not about to swap it out because 24.2 megapixels is better than 20.1, or because eye autofocus makes portraits that little bit easier.

Those pondering the video specifications might want to consider the percentage of 1D X Mark III customers who are buying this camera for its video or hybrid capabilities. Canon's R&D team sat down to build a camera that blasts out an insane number of low-noise raw files very quickly and also shoots 12 bit 5.5K raw internal video — not the other way around.

Heavily Invested

A mirrorless version of the 1D X will no doubt arrive, but it’s not on the horizon just yet. Before you consider the research and development, there’s a large economic factor to keep in mind from the outset: Canon would be shooting itself in the foot if it were to prompt sports and news agencies to rethink their entire camera system when they don’t need to. Canon and Nikon will be in no rush to nudge those heavily invested, brand-loyal businesses into swapping out vast amounts of gear for such an incremental difference, especially if it would be just as easy to switch to another brand. The EOS R was a marker, a foot in the door on which to build; when the 1DR or R1 or whatever it’s called arrives, it will be fully developed and with an extensive range of glass that doesn’t need an adapter. Canon wasn’t in a rush before the 1D X Mark III was released, and I doubt it’s feeling the pressure now.

Of course, the mirrorless transition will still be painful, and Sony’s insistence on incremental upgrades and market agitation will keep Canon on its toes. But with the 1D X, Canon has safeguarded the flagship DSLR, and despite the mirrorless noise, you can expect to see Canon DSLRs dominating the sidelines for the foreseeable future. Let me know if you agree by leaving your thoughts in the comments below.

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Joel Hernandez's picture

Why would people ever want to go mirror less?
In Canon's case, because of the lenses they are releasing. Rumored RF 135 f/1.4L 😍

Jason Frels's picture

If you consider a patent application a rumor.

Joel Hernandez's picture

Yeah, who knows if it will ever be released. There was another patent RF 135 f/1.8L as well.

I am excited what Canon is coming out with in regards to RF lenses like the 28-70 F/2, new more lighter and portable 70-200 etc. 😊

Jason Frels's picture

Yes, I agree they have an exciting mirrorless lens offering in development. I guess if I was interested in portraits or weddings, they would have a compelling line-up in the making.

Having been involved in a few patents, I have found that they are often defensive and sometimes there is no actual intent to productize the patented technology.

Dave Morris's picture

Because it's an entertainment industry. Working professionals aside, we buy new cameras just for the fun of buying new cameras. Any marketing is only here to justify it for ourselves.

Johnny Rico's picture

Because SLR's have are/have been dead for years now! /s

Benoit Pigeon's picture

Let me tell you, dead brings 100% of my income and probably can for many, many years. If / when I get a mirrorless, I'll still have my slr's.

Johnny Rico's picture

Same, my kit keeps churning out money. Clients don't care, educators and YouTube'rs care

Benoit Pigeon's picture

Yep. In this world of fix it in post and push the iso, by far for what I do, my lights bring more money than my cameras. Last week I had a first time client at my studio coming from out of town. For direction to my place he first asked - Where is your place, are shooting from your basement or garage at your house - When he came in my studio, which in an adjacent town, he realized how much room and equipment we needed to set up for his small product. Not going to be a regular due to the small business he operates, but I'm confident he will call me when he has more need. The camera was absolutely insignificant in getting this client to trust me. I don't use the studio that much because most of my work is on location, but as long as it pays for itself, I can take any work and one time clients or not frequent clients to pass my name around.

Don Risi's picture

Sales people care, too. But, as you say, clients don't. If anything, it's the other way around. Some of mine comment on the largess of my DSLRs. They think it looks professional . . . :-D

Morgan Miller's picture

Thats a pretty silly comment

Johnny Rico's picture

/s = Sarcasm

Gabriele Zanon's picture

When you'll tell the difference between a mirrorless and a DSLR without looking at the EXIF, that will be the right time to switch.

Doug Birling's picture

Billboards require large files? Not any we've dealt with around the country.

Benoit Pigeon's picture

Good catch! Now that's funny!

jim blair's picture

What a joke, an iPhone will work for vinyl on a large 14x48' sign and easily for digital billboards.

Andy Day's picture

Noted! 😊

Kyoshi Becker's picture

Excluding show/event displays where the viewing distance is close, most large printing (especially billboards) are printed at an ungodly low resolution. The viewing distance doesnt justify the cost.

Alex Herbert's picture

I don't know about you, but I only print billboards at 1:1. This is because despite common assumptions, most people read building sized billboards from arm's length.

Keith Meinhold's picture

I suspect there are good professional and very personal reasons one chooses a DSLR over Mirrorless or versa. Features like; weight, size, investment, technology, speed, sound, focusing, ergonomics, image quality, video capabilities... Wether or not the camera has a mirror or not is pretty far down the list. I have a hard time thinking that anyone asks; does it have a mirror or not, when choosing a camera today.

davidlovephotog's picture

No client has ever asked me what kind of camera I use. They want the results and don't care how it was done. The this camera vs that camera, windows vs mac crap doesn't matter to them at all if the results suck.

Paul Scharff's picture

I recall my Nikon friends raving over the D850 and dumping it the day the Nikon mirrorless came out. I asked why, if the D850 was really that good, they are switching. I got non-answers ("It's smaller," as they attach a 600mm lens to it, for example). That doesn't mean that there aren't valid reasons to switch from a two-year-old camera, but they certainly weren't making it. I wanted to buy their D850s just so it wouldn't feel so jilted.

For me as a Canon guy, I can see switching but not necessarily to mirrorless. I would switch to a new camera if Canon could really nail IQ to the levels Nikon and Sony have had for a few years. It *appears* their new sensor technology may be finally bringing the brands closer to parity on that metric.

Morgan Miller's picture

You genersliz as if most people aho used the d850 dimped it for the z6 ot z7..BTW, the d850 blowss away both the z6 and z7, with the exception of video..D850 is the best stills camera on the market, hands down.

Mark Houston's picture

I agree the D850 is a great camera. It's my main shooter, but there are times when I need the much quicker focus of the D5, and I am playing with a Z7 now and it's not to shabby. I really like the flip up / down screen on the Z7.

Paul Scharff's picture

Fair point -- my sample size was small. Frankly from what I know about the D850, if I had one it would take something pretty dramatically better to make me switch from it, and I'm not sure the Z's do it.

Dave Morris's picture

"nail IQ to the levels Nikon and Sony have had for a few years" - to someone who has just sold his Sony a7iii that sounds a bit naive. When it comes to colors even a 10 y.o. Canon 5DII/III beats any Sony a7 hands down. It's only resolution, high ISO noise and eye AF where Sony wins.

Paul Scharff's picture

Yes and Canon has a ton of other advantages which is why I'm still with them. But I do remain frustrated with their IQ in particular at higher ISOs.

T Scarb's picture

Lets use a person that shoots the NFL with $10k+ lenses as an example of the need for toaster size cameras...

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I can think of a few reasons sports shooters would want a high end mirrorless. Easier to judge exposure for JPG journalism shooters who hand the card to an assistant for immediate distribution is one reason. Focus tracking is another when the action is fast and the decisive moment disappears in an instant. Lower weight to more easily allow a third body to be carried with a normal or wide prime fixed to hyper focal infinity focus for shooting from the hip.

And come on, pupil detection AF means more keepers for anyone shooting faces.

Morgan Miller's picture

AF tracking is superior, essoecially in lower light, with the Nikon D500 and D5..no argument dude.

Tim Sheehan's picture

Dpreview got better tracking af with the 1dxiii in live view mode than with ovf

Unsubscribe Me's picture

Have you ever seen a sports shooter holding the camera at arms length and shooting like it was a phone? I’ve never seen that.

Tim Sheehan's picture

That was really not the point lol. If 1DXiii can do that with the mirror up, relying on a mirrorless focusing system, then a sports RF mount camera which performs well is possible.

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Well you didn’t say that but now I follow you.

Anyhow so It’s possible now, on their just-released most expensive camera. Perhaps it wasn’t possible or feasible before. Also DPR just did a basic test, not the action and confusion of pro sports.

jim blair's picture

For some reason these writers don't seem to understand that few photographers are shooting sideline sports with Sony gear even after two years. Peters video if you look closely shows focusing flaws with the zone based AF while panning and tracking players. AF tracking is difficult, especially when it hasn't been trained with face/eye images processed by AI algorithms. The 1dx3 is awesome in what it offers, it will be great. The durability and focusing of the original 1dx would still be a better choice than the A9 for most sports shooting if you need something reliable. Canon doesn't have a pro RF body, no RF 300/400/500/600 lens yet, it's not a battle of dslr vs mirrorless, rather equipment that works for the job today.

Zoli Tarnavölgyi's picture

Why don’t anybody talks about EVF lag? It exists, and if you shoot any fast moving genre, it is just a no go. Mirrorless not really for sports. (or any fast target)

Mike P's picture

Because people are shooting 20fps with no lag, or at least none that is noticable or affects performance.

Zoli Tarnavölgyi's picture

So you prefer video. ok. :D

Morgan Miller's picture

It isnhardly noticeable anymore, and in a few years it will be nonexistent

Zoli Tarnavölgyi's picture

Did you ever tried to shoot a genre, where you need precise timing?

Dave Morris's picture

Same impression. Owning a number of DSLR and mirrorless bodies, brand-neutral.

Michael Campanella's picture

"Canon would be shooting itself in the foot if it were to prompt sports and news agencies to rethink their entire camera system when they don’t need to."

Canon is likely aware of how aggressively Sony is currently courting professional sports photographers and agency shooters. Last year in Europe they held regular events at exotic locations where they flew in photographers to test their gear. I attended one at a resort in Tenerife.

So I think the authors reasoning is wrong. Canon and Nikon would be very foolish to sit and wait. I am a 1D user (currently Mark II) and as much as I love that camera a mirror less version of it would be infinitely superior. For one thing it is silent, which means with certain sports (golf) you could shoot all the time without interrupting the players.

Morgan Miller's picture

Nikon has the 2 best sports cameras on the market

Morgan Miller's picture

Inwould be surprised ig the AG tracking iss as good a what iss on the Nikon d5 and d500

Kyoshi Becker's picture

I am puzzled by the media coverage of the D6. Everybody is raving over the 1D X mkIII. And it isnt some blowout feature, it is over autofocus.

Many of these same outlets are bashing the D6 as an overpriced relic. My "ancient" D4s still blows most current cameras out of the water in terms of Af. I can go months without a missed focus shot.

I like the raw video feature but i guess well have to wait to see what else the camera has. Features like a quick transfer of files to a phone/tablet without needing a hard drive and number recgonition/recording would go a long way. Also more resolution is nice. If i could shoot a full 30mpx and have a raw option at 16-20mpx would be ideal. Not all the sports I do are for web & newspapers. Sports magazines sometimes like images that can work for a 2 page spread in a magazine.

Michael Dobson's picture

Certainly on paper the new 1dx mk3 seems pretty unbeatable by any current competition standards. Even with hints of Nikons D6 arriving at a similar time to canons, I think maybe canons offering is going to be superior to Nikons, but we wait and see. The fact that the 1dx mk3 is a hybrid and on paper, appears to be a very impressive hybrid at that, not many current models, include Sony, can compete. Assuming the 1dx mk3 proves its once tested after its market debut, it will be an difficult camera to beat for quite time. Its only caveat at present, is its launching price! However, is you want nigh on perfection, that costs!

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How is it a hybrid? There’s no EVF in the viewfinder. Just because you can shoot in live view with the mirror up doesn’t mean it has mirrorless functions, any Walmart DSLR has been able to do that for years.

Matt White's picture

"According to long-time N̶F̶L̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶o̶t̶e̶r̶ Canon ambassador Peter Read Miller, the 1D X Mark III is a something of a game-changer when it comes to autofocus performance..."

At the moment we're seeing ambassador hands on videos and similar. I just can't see someone who's on their Explorer of Light programme saying something bad about the camera, or being able to compare it to the use of competitor models in the field. We're going to need the independent reviews for that.

Andy Day's picture

Argh. Noted. Ta.

Mark Harris's picture

Hahaha because the A9 which is oldish still kicks the crap out of this DinoSLR. That is why, fanboy

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