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As Sony and Fujifilm continue to charge ahead deep into mirrorless territory, many are hoping Nikon and Canon will step up to the plate. When it comes to Canon, that likely won't be for a while, but that could actually be a good thing.
The awesome people over at Canon Rumors are reporting that Canon is planning on announcing a "high-end mirrorless ILC" in Q4 of 2018. While that seems like just a shade under an eternity away, it could actually signal good news for those waiting on such a camera. While Canon has the EOS M5 right now, which is actually a fairly decent mirrorless camera, it uses the EF-M mount. On the other hand, the Canon Rumors report also mentions that there were no "high-end" lenses specifically for the mirrorless camera mentioned. This, along with the delay, could indicate that Canon is planning an EF-native mirrorless camera or at least one with a very fast adapter.
The main problem is the flange distance of the EF mount, which is 44 mm, as compared to a mirrorless option like the Sony E mount, which is 18 mm. That distance can't be changed, and thus Canon would either have to design an entirely new mount or accept the physical size imposed by this distance (and perhaps use that space for some nifty feature). Of course, whereas Fujifilm and Sony are advancing by leaps and bounds, Canon's (and Nikon's) advantage are their extensive lens libraries, and thus, to compete, a "high-end" camera would likely either have to be a native mount for those libraries or have an adaptor that provided near-equal AF performance, which would be easier than say Sony-to-Canon, since it would be first-party equipment and AF algorithms. While this is all speculation at this point, hopefully, it'll come to fruition.
[via Canon Rumors]
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I hope it comes soon and is ad least full frame...
To make a high end, ok FF mirrorless and to use a completely new mount. Would be the death of the that camera before it even ships.
If they want to make a FF mirrorless, and court the requisite customers, they have a fair amount of work to do with DPAF. There's a night and day difference in performance between my wife's Canon M5 and my (recently purchased) A7RII. Night... and... day...
Right the good news is this: There is a rumour that somewhere in the future, Canon might come with a mirrorless and the rest is pure speculation of your part. Because you don't have a clue what kind of mount they will make.
What a nonsense article.
In the meantime let me give you some facts: Fuji, Sony, and Panasonic are actually making really good mirrorless cameras right now. Not somewhere in the future.
I literally opened the article by saying Sony and Fujifilm are doing great and closed it by saying I was spectulating. Journalists talking about the future of a company and/or industry is a pretty standard thing.
Trying to speculate and make predictions on the industry? Who do you think you are.
"accept the physical size imposed by this distance (and perhaps use that space for some nifty feature)"
How about using the space to fit a bigger battery? Mirrorless cameras almost all suffer from poor battery life, when compared with DSLRs. If Canon needs to make their mirrorless camera body bigger anyway, to fit standard EF-mount lenses, then why not use that space to fit a much bigger battery than other mirrorless bodies.
That space would be between the back of the lens and the sensor. Can't put a battery there.
Not there directly, no. But if the body has to be bigger anyway, why not make it big enough for a decent battery inside an enlarged grip?
To me, the better solution (if we're going to keep the DSLR size) would be a TRUE hybrid viewfinder that either A) can display the view through the lens like a DSLR or can display the view off the sensor (EVF), or B) ideally, one which can do either view and can also display both simultaneously. Again, if we're going to keep the size/form factor, why limit the camera to only one view (OVF or EVF) when patents exist which can do both?
Yeah, that would also be great. But a hybrid viewfinder and bigger battery aren't mutually exclusive. I'd like both!
Me too! I just didn't want to get too greedy :-D
They could change the shape of the camera to be more like a medium format camera. If you're holding the camera, looking at the back, there wouldn't be much body to the left side. The body would be thick and it would allow for a big battery in the grip and a comfortable grip. I personally never liked the Sony system because I felt like it was too shallow to hold and the battery life was horrible.
I am sure many are looking forward to what Nikon and Canon come up with in terms of mirrorless. In the mean time, there are options out there if you can't wait, and the numbers show that many just couldn't wait. Personally, for my work, I see very little compelling argument for mirrorless until technologies improve (and yes, Sony has come a LONG way), and I personally believe it would be a mistake for Canon or Nikon to release a "me too" just to be in the market. Unless they are improving on something that exists today why should they? I would love to see mirrors and shutters done away with, and for that matter, clean, high dynamic range iso's past 6400, and why do we harp on full frame? It was just the size of film that made sense at a time... Today we can make sensors any shape and size we want? So why not go bigger? And why isn't medium format ACTUALLY medium format? I want my 6x9cm sensor!
My point, what an amazing time we live in photographically, and if all you can do is complain about a camera manufacturer and what they have or have not released, you are not spending enough time taking pictures and honing your craft. Also, didn't I just read a very similar article as the above except Nikon instead of Canon when Nikon claimed "we're working on it..." or some such thing?
I liked big and heavy cameras until a few years ago, even with my small hands. That was when Mother Arthrosis decided to invade my shoulders, elbows and fingers. Out of necessity, I switch to lighter cameras and lo and behold, I actually like lighter and smaller. Not everybody is the same.
Technically, the flange distance can be changed by using a sensor that slides forwards and back. Then the body could use both short flange, specifically designed mirrorless lenses, but also natively use current EF lenses. However, the level of precision required is quite daunting.
I was thinking the same thing, would be really cool if you could just input the flange distance you want and it would adjust the sensor.
The Canon R&D, Marketing department probably have more research done on the mirrorless segment than most uers on this forum.