Just a few hours ago Apple announced their all new Macbook Pro line of laptops. The most impressive of the group is the 15inch model which includes a retina display! I'm currently typing this on a massive 24inch ultra sharp monitor that has 1920x1200 pixels. Apple's new 15 inch screen has a shocking 2800x1800 pixels. Apple also finally made the jump to USB 3.0 which makes this the most impressive laptop for creative professionals on the go. Pre-order the new machine here.
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I'm too scared to look and see how much it costs...
In Europe even more,too much Apple.
I think I saw it for something like $2700 dollars. I'm not sure because I think I fainted just after. Perhaps someone can confirm this?
It's true with the pricing over here in Europe. The official RRP for the 7D (body only) is 1699 in both the UK and the US, despite the exchange rate being in favour of the UK (it's currently around 1.55USD to 1GBP). But thankfully, the "street" price does reflect the exchange rate better, even if it's perhaps not as low as it should be (or we'd hope it to be).
they killed the 17" mac pro and also killed the MAC PRO today. Very sad day for professionals.
Mac Pro was not killed but silent upgraded. The only one who was "killed" was the 17' MacBook Pro or it's maybe in standby because there's not possible yet to get a "retina display" for him since DPI are a factor of "Size/Resolution".
I'm not a Mac user but I'd take pixel count over screen size any day. I also think they will eventually get rid of the mac pro but they have not yet, they just gave it a new update today.
http://gizmodo.com/5917271/the-mac-pro-is-half+dead-apple-has-kind-of-up...
I don't think Mac Pro is going to be killed anytime soon. There will always be a need for a robust, upgradeable workstation.
i work for a university, and our apple rep told us that they are indeed getting rid of the Mac Pro in the near future. it seems the success of thunderbolt has lead them to realize they don't need PCI slots anymore. they'll likely design a high performance iMac for the pro market that will probably disappoint us all...
I guess zooming into 100% just won't do. iForsee an apple magnifier, optional for $499 :-)
Really nice resolution, but after using a 17" machine for a while, I could never go back to 15" for editing. I like it for making my images just slightly larger and more immersive; resolution is somewhat less important to me. The Retina display gives more pixels, but not more user interface, on-screen text, etc. I'm also using a machine that's less than 1/3 the price of that new one, so I'm not in Apple's target demographic. Obviously. :-)
"The Retina display gives more pixels, but not more user interface, on-screen text, etc."
Well of course it does: As the ppi increase, elements on your display become smaller.
You might be confused because that's not the case on iDevices with retina, that's because all the graphics on those have been updated with higher resolutions but there probably won't be a Mac OS "HD" ;)
Actually "Mac OS HD" is very much coming. The whole philosophy that Apple has is to crank up the resolution for text and images to be clearer and less pixelated, not to make everything smaller. Also, Steve Jobs started experimenting with vector based GUI's for computer over a decade ago, just to be able to have texts, icons and so on the same size no matter the resolution. And it has already been stated that OS X apps are getting an "HD update".
I wasn't aware of that, thanks. I like this philosophy for iDevices but i wouldn't mind smaller elements on a 15"... Still I think that it will take some time for all of the developers to jump on this train.
15" is not big enough for professional work.. . And releasing a "new" Mac Pro with no thunderbolt, no USB 3, and a video card from 3 years ago is not an upgrade... its a big F-U to the professional. As Lee Morris himself just said he doesn't use mac, I will follow. In fact, Lee seems to be pretty damn good at all this so maybe he will post what he uses so all of us that blindly followed Apple all these years have someone with a bit of vision to follow now.
Uh... what? It has Thunderbolt. It has two Thunderbolt connectors. And two USB 3s. And they made it smaller. With a much better screen. And they changed the harddrive to flash. And a slough of other changes.
He said Mac Pro not MB Pro.
Agreed with the other guy, you might be an idiot.. Comparing a guy that runs a reasonably successful blog with other industry professionals is about as irrational as "FAN posts" get. That notebook's price point and specific feature set are unmatched in the industry as of now. There is absolutely no professional carrying around a 17" notebook however, there seems to be a LARGE following for the 13-15 models to be more powerful. My guess is the 13" screen/processor/battery life weren't full optimized so apple held it back. Cudos to apple, I'll be upgrading VERY soon :)
That is an insane pixel pitch
jason, where do you see mac pro has thunderbolt and usb 3? wow i take back everything bad i just said. O wait a second.. you are wrong. The new MAC PRO does not have anything but a new processor...
umm....
http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/
2 minute mark in the video confirms what Jaron said.
wow. I am really speechless. the fact that you guys do not know the difference between a macbook pro and a mac pro tells me everything.. not just one, but 3 of you. Maybe apple is right in targeting the consumer that have no clue...
the reason apple did that is the mac pro sales has really fallen off so it makes no sense for them to put the money into the mac pro when there's not a lot of people buying it. With the release of final cut X it really slowed down sales.
Mac Pro sales have fallen off because they haven't upgraded the machine in FIVE years. Every professional forum I am on, whether its photography, video, 3D, Animation, etc. is all pining for an upgrade to the Mac Pro. Apple is killing it through attrition. Fair enough. I bought an iMac when Avid included it on the certified list.
My guess is that Apple will either,
a) Transition the Mac Pro into a beefed up iMac Pro with retina display, or
b) Update the Mac Pro when they release stand-alone retina displays.They're testing the retina display for Pro users with the Macbook Pro, which hits videographers and photographers alike.
Robert, I just thought I'd leave a comment so you don't think you're going crazy. ;)
(Typing this on a Mac Pro, not a Macbook Pro)
You're right about that. Last Apple product I I owned was a Mac in 86. I don't see anything within any of their product range that would make me buy one. I look at hardware when determining what I am going to build for a pc or laptop so a "named" product is useless. More power to you for studying and knowing the specs all Apple products. I can tell you the transistor count and L2 cache on every Intel and AMD cpu back to P3 and K7's respectively.
building a laptop lol... who are you chuck norris?
Sorry Robert, I misunderstood you. However, my name is Jaron.
Looks really great except for the fact that there is no Firewire 800 port. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
I guess I will just have to rough it with my current MacBookPro until the adapter ships. Or throw away my AptusII, Hmmm, decisions.Really, do Apple even talk to photographers when they make these decisions. Ever Digital back available today uses FW 800, two, the Phase IQ series and the Leaf Credo series have USB 3 ports, and they don't work yet, they are promised to be enabled at a later date with a firmware upgrade. How long have the IQ's been out?
thus the release of the thunderbolt adapters.. My guess is the fw800 ports affected the rigidness of the body and they nixed them
Can't wait to put Windows 8 on this puppy.
If you're calling yourself a "professional" and your editing on a laptop screen on the regular I would seriously reconsider my profession. 17" nor 19" nor 20" is enough to edit high res files that cameras are getting out today. At MINIMUM, as a professional photographer you're going to want a 24" EXTERNAL screen that is properly color calibrated.
The power of this machine is it's display and portability. When paired with the soon to be released Retina 27" external Cinema display this mobile device becomes a portable editing station that not only allows you to import, edit, organize and quickly transfer your images/video but it's a wonderful way to display your work to clients on a screen that is ... magical.
17" was just too heavy and bulky. The concept of being able to dock my machine and utilize a huge, beautiful counterpart and then take my data with me AND use it for 7 hours.....brilliant.
....and I've never owned a Mac in my life.
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Well, as a "professional" I have to work in press-rooms, at the fields, on the floor of the civic center, and other places when I am shooting in the field. And my two 27" screens at the house aren't doing me any good when I am on deadline hours from home.
I bought an iPad for client review, I am not handing them my laptop. And I do agree that 17" is just too big and bulky. I never carry the 17" any more. My current model MBP is 15" and pretty nice to travel with. Fits nicely on the tray on the airplane too.
Yes and client will see the "magical looking photos" and agree to print them. And after will complain that the photos he/she got doesn´t look in the same magical way he/she have seen on the "magical retina screen".
It's not a matter of screen size but resolution. Everything a TRUE professional wants it's resolution and performance. Conclusion, this MB Pro 15 meets all the requirements, for sure.
27 retina? Did you already did the math of a 27 inch screen with at least 200dpi ? Do you know how many pixels it's needed? "soon to be released" ?!
Eeek... guys calm down, if you don't think this is it for you then don't buy it. I am personally very impressed and can't wait to get one. On the other hand... who da hell edits on a 15" for "professional" work. I own a 17" right now and I love it, but finding its a fatass when it comes to travel or location work. I agree that a 24 or 27" calibrated is a must for the guys that are far better than me. I also intend to get a 27" once they release a newer and higher res version of that screen. But let's face it, for tethering and for studio work, this thing is like Victoria Secret's gorgeous bum, everyone wants it! haha. Quick on the SSD, fast processor, killer graphics card, thunderbolt and usb 3.0 and even hdmi out, i think this sucker is a win. Just remember, this is a LAPTOP, PORTABLE powerhouse is key here, not to be mistaken or compared to a dual 27" or dual 36" (for the rich) combined with a desktop "mac pro".
Just my 2 cents. Cheers :)
" who da hell edits on a 15" for "professional" work."
Every pro I know or work with.
Loving how you say "calm down", then bashes people for doing "professional" work on a 15" screen, and resorts to all caps near the end. ;)
lol no no its not what i meant guys, yes i do realize lots do work on the 15" but i meant it in that most don't do the majority of their work on it, again could be my inexperience. Most i see use dual screens or use heavy duty desktops for their stuff. Oh and the caps isn't for yelling hahaha my bad.
Yep. You are right. Portable and powerful to quickly see photos/videos on location.
I have 17inch MacBook Pro and its heavy to drag along. I would love to switch it for smaller one sometime soon.Shame it doesn't have FireWire built in. Using some adaptors will be on the way with this one.
But 2 big screens are proper professional editing station. Not a laptop.
It's the photographers dream for now . . . until the next latest technology comes along. I though full HD was the peak of electronic display until people started talking about 4K. What's next? 8K? :)
16K maybe?
Hmmm ... Most of stuff on TV is still SD upscaled or 720p. But more and more is being shoot to broadcast as true HD (1080p). I think we need to wait for 8k or 16k a bit longer. My bet would be that in few years everything on home TV will be 1080p/2k and then 4/8k or retina TV will be in production? not sure if 3D will get ever adapted on large scale.
can you guys just give me one?
It is incredible machine, but resolution is to high, resolution of my 17in 1920x1200 is sometimes is too detailed and it make my eyes tired, where did they put firewire 800, what I am going to do with old G-drive on the go, it mean I will have to use USB-2 instead now.
They made the same mistake with Final cut Pro-X, they build machine for the future, but they didn't care about the past and today users.
You will haev to use adaptor Firewire to thunderbolt. Not the best solution, but exist. At least you don't have to use USB 2 (ugh) or sell your Gdrive.
ahhaah you make me lough so hard! every photog dream?! b*tch, please... really?! I already own a 15" hi-res mbpro and i don't even attempt postproducing on this monitor, both for display size and color accuracy.. c'mon, do you REALLY need this impressive amount of pixels?
kudos my HP LP2475w, that's every photographer [on a budget!] dream!
With the HDMI port, will it be possible to use the macbook as a monitor ?
Just a note that a lot of people commenting on screen size being "too small for professionals" seem to forget that many photographers and videographers travel and need to take a computer with them. Anything larger than a 15" laptop isn't really feasible or convenient (well, maybe a 17" is if they are going somewhere local), especially if they are travelling abroad by air. Something with a small screen is better than nothing.
For the rest of us, larger is usually better, but you can edit on smaller screens. Bigger just makes it easier. I use my Dell laptop with my desktop's screen redirected via RDC to it so I can sit in comfort on my settee and have the TV on if I want. If I need to, I can sit at my desk and use the larger screen.