No 4K video on the 6D Mark II? The Internet Is Not Pleased

Yesterday Canon announced the 6D Mark II, the long awaited update to the almost five year old original 6D. Although a massive update from the original, some of the features (or lack thereof) are leaving many scratching their heads. Chief among them is the omission of 4K video. The internet has noticed.

The 6D Mark II is a curious beast. While I have no doubt that it will be a great performer, it's lagging behind other manufacturers in a big way as far as innovations go. Check out the videos by Kai Wong and Jared Polin for other perspectives, but in my opinion, including a fully articulating screen gives the appearance of wanting to compete with other manufacturers in the realm of video. In short, it's suffering from an identity crisis. For video, it's woefully lacking in features when compared to the equally priced Panasonic GH5. If it's a stills camera the Nikon D750 is clocking in at $200 cheaper with similar features plus dual card slots. In short, who is this thing for?

Canon needs to realize that we live in a world where the quality of almost every new camera out there is incredible and innovation is everything. It's not enough to come out with a "good" camera anymore. Being full-frame isn't enough to make you special, especially at such a high price point. 4K should have been a no-brainer. Nikon's D500 does it for $100 cheaper. Yes, it's a smaller sensor, but it's also a far more robust camera. Essentially this is an 80D with a full frame sensor at almost double the price. What?

The 6D Mark II is the very definition of a missed opportunity. Even doing a 5D Mark III "light" with 4K video, flippy screen, and a single card slot at $1599 would have been better than this. That could have been a gamechanger. But this? I don't know. What do you all think?

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Chad Rollins's picture

It makes sense to me! The C100MKII doesn't have 4k, it helps create space for the other products without taking market share from the 5D and 1DXII

Christian Santiago's picture

Unfortunately for Canon, its competitors aren't following the same strategy. Sony, Panasonic, Fuji, and even Nikon (They're starting to get it), are all putting advanced video features into their DSLR and Mirrorless bodies.

Canon is free to draw a line in the sand to protect their "precious cinema line" But not everyone wants to pay 7000 dollars for 4k Video. And pros nowadays are making a living doing both and demand gear that can keep up with their needs.

@ Chad Rollins You seem to forget that there is competition who give it all and don't hold back. Sony also has a line of cinema cameras but they put really good 4k video in their cameras. Canon seem to think that they are the only one out there.

Yea youre missing the point, people can go out and buy a Panasonic for $600 and get 4k

I mean, let's get realistic. Canon seems to think they still run the show. The 5dmk4 may have 4k but it is more a gimmick. It has a 1,74 crop and the most ridiculous codec you can imagine. Even a 600 dollars Panasonic does a better job.

I am probably wrong, but could it be that Canon is trying to draw a line between their video systems and still cameras? Only crossing that line in their pro-level devices? But what do I know, I rarely shoot video with my DSLR, and only if specifically asked to so by a past customer of my still services. And I have never shot 4K.

Reginald Walton's picture

I agree, why cut off your hand by giving lower level cameras the same features as the pro level cameras without the costs? People are greedy.

Christian Santiago's picture

Because all of your competition in this competitive field is offering more value? Even Nikon's starting to see the light.

Sony's just going to keep taking everyone's lunch money.

Reginald Walton's picture

I don't think Canon is missing their lunch money. And good for Sony playing catch up.

Sully Cortez's picture

It's just a freaking joke! Like literally, a slap in the face to those who aren't brainwashed by the Canon name. We can see through the thin veil of stupidity and realize this is not an 'upgrade' but a minute incremental way of squeezing more money from customers who just don't know any better. Check out my video on why Canon literally dropped the ball big time: http://bit.ly/6dmkiijoke

I literally wish you knew the meaning of the word 'literally'. They 'figuratively' dropped the ball, in your opinion.

Alex Moan's picture

I often feel like Canon has dug themselves into a ditch by creating so many different models. I also question why they don't try to make some statements as they watch Sony climb towards the throne. They have the technology, and their strategies to push filmmakers to the c-series is not working very well since the people buying DSLR's are so focused on small body sizes.

Reginald Walton's picture

Well, they've been doing business, successfully mind you for several years and it seems to be working. Not that they get everything right, every time, but I think they know a little bit about the business at this point. Gotta have different price points for different levels and budgets.

Alex Moan's picture

I agree, and I'm a Canon person so I want them to stay on top. I just would love to see them play the game of innovation a little stronger than they have.

Canon is coasting on previous sucesses

Brian Stricker's picture

I see it as 'the internet" wanted the either the specs of a 5D IV for the price of this camera or a an 80D priced camera with a better and bigger sensor. Seems kinda unrealistic to me.

People expect competition between the brands at all price points

Jeff Laity's picture

I've seen a lot of crappy 4k. Canon probably tried it and didn't like the results. If it's just a marketing limitation then Magic Lantern will have a hack. If not then maybe video quality is more important than specs to them. Image quality is my first concern, which is why I didn't hesitate to buy a 5D4 days after this announcement.

What do I think? Well... I think armchair pundits have been shouting that Canon is making poor decisions, and stating various consequences ranging from almost no consequence to "they're going out of business because of this", for several years now - but Canon's market share is over 45% and growing! I think the kind of people who read FStoppers, watch YouTube "previews", and generally know the specs of cameras and lenses before the company announces them thanks to rumor sites are, from a total market perspective, practically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Finally, I think that the VAST majority of people do not have the desire nor the hardware/software to do anything with a 4k file - so it's inclusion as a feature is unimportant to them (see my first point, above).

Jonathan, you hit the nail on the head! I talk to people all the time who have no need for 4k - and everyone says that Canon is stupid... well you know what? They are NOT stupid! They have a shit load of marketing that tells them they're right and the market continues to buy their cameras from Canon.

Filming in 4K for 1080p output can be a wise decision, as it allows for cropping, zooming, and stabilizing without losing quality. However, as Jonathan noted, I don't have the hardware to efficiently edit 4K video.

This is what happens when you get big, fat and comfortable.

Yup, they gain market share and sell a shitload of cameras while they sit back and laugh at all the folks who say they're going down the dumper.

Spy Black's picture

I don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape about this. There's 3 things to consider here. First and foremost, this is a STILL IMAGE camera! Considering it's previous incarnation, this is a significant upgrade to make up for what was a really lacking camera, even compared to it's rival, the Nikon D600/610.

Secondly, it's a base camera, a camera designed for those who want to break into full frame still photography who want to own Canon. In a camera like this, video is thrown in essentially for shits and giggles. About the only error Canon has really made is overpricing it, although I suspect the price will drop fairly quickly.

Finally, this is CANON we're talking about here. If you want 4k video from Canon, well, you're going to have to PAY for it, because Canon has dedicated video cameras in that resolution, and they are steering you right to them if you want to see a Canon plate on your 4k camera.

But let's face it, it's now 2017, and the video revolution that started with the Mk II and Magic Lantern is long over. It's a Panasonic and BlackMagic world now, and if you want 4k video, you're sadly looking in the wrong place in 2017.

So move along now, because there's nothing to see here...

Jonathan Reid's picture

I've got the 1dx mark 2, the flagship. Even so, it's a terrible camera for 4K video and stills. I want a camera that can do both well. Why can't Canon give it to me? Sony do it with ease.

Terrible for 4k? I know plenty of pros and high paid shooters that will disagree with you... they keep doing the jobs and quietly getting the work instead of whinging on the 'net.

Chad Andreo's picture

The 4K codec impractical for event and wedding shooters. This was obviously done on purpose to protect the c300.

And yet you bought the Canon and not the Sony..

Jonathan Reid's picture

I shoot 4K and stills for a living. I got the 1D because my largest client bought it for me. I've had a year of the Canon 1D to compare to a year of the Sony A7R2. The quality of the 4K footage is almost the same, but the Sony has a much better codec and does not crop into the footage. By the way Planet Mich, I keep getting work, but I complain on the net too, because I want Canon to rectify this issue. I truly want to stick to Canon. What else can we possibly do to get heard?

Eduardo Francés's picture

Here they wont here you, I can assure you this with 100% certainty.