The Photographers You Idolize Are No Better Than You

The Photographers You Idolize Are No Better Than You

We look up to other people in all aspects of our lives. Most of us admire our parents or an older sibling. We desire to be like those who have "made it" like actors, musicians, or wealthy business owners. As photographers, we probably all have a list of our favorite people in the industry. I'm here to tell you that they are no better at photography than you are.

Fstoppers.com has given me a very unique, inside look into the photography industry. I've had the rare opportunity to have met with and gotten to know a large number of my photography idols. I've been able to ask them the questions that they would never answer on camera, such as "How exactly did you book that job?" "How much did that campaign pay?" or "Are you making more money shooting or teaching at this point?" In many cases, my idols, the photographers who I always wanted to be like, are actually like me already, but in many cases they are just a few years ahead of me. The thing that all of my favorite photographers seem to have in common is that none of them think that they have "made it." Most of them are still constantly struggling to land that next big job or start that next big business idea. I assumed that once you reached "the top" you could relax but I've found that there is no "top". No matter how successful you become, you can always land more jobs, gain more sponsors or raise your rates. It's exciting to set a goal and then reach it but as soon as you do it's time to set another goal.

When I first got into photography my goal was to assist as many professionals as I could to become a well rounded photographer. I assisted commercial, portrait, wedding, food and architectural photographers. I learned a seemingly endless amount of information from each of them, but I was always shocked by how much each of them didn't know. I watched each deal with amateur problems like forgetting to lower their ISO from 3200 for a studio session or forgetting their cameras maximum sync speed and wondering why their flash wasn't showing up or not understanding crop vs full frame cameras or lenses. Many of these photographers didn't understand the basics of Photoshop.

I've also randomly met shooters who have assisted one or more of the most famous photographers alive today. After we've had a few drinks the stories begin to fly and are usually all pretty similar: "You know that million dollar campaign that ________ shot? Well I was there for that campaign and that photographer didn't know what the hell they were doing. Basically I had to come up with that lighting scheme myself." I've heard so many stories about some of the biggest photographers alive today not having a basic understanding of lighting, their camera or post production.

As I've learned all of the industry's dirty little secrets over the past few years it has both inspired and depressed me. It's inspiring to know that the photographers I've looked up to throughout my entire career are not that different from me. It's inspiring to know that even the best photographers in the world still struggle with some of the same things that I do. It's inspiring to know it actually is possible for me to reach their level. At the same time it's completely depressing to think about how much time I spend online learning every technical aspect of my camera equipment only to hear that the last giant fashion campaign was shot by someone who doesn't understand what ISO is.

The title of this article is "The Photographers You Idolize Are No Better Than You" and that is actually a lie. The Photographers you idolize may not know their camera better than you, but they are actually better than you and me both at a lot of other things that matter more.

Business
Hugely successful photographers are master businessmen and women. If they aren't good with business, they hire someone who is. Most of these photographers have agents that can not only help them find jobs but also do all of the negotiating. If these photographers don't have a private agent they will have a manager on staff that deals with this aspect of their business. Underbidding a job in many cases is worse than overbidding and these photographers know exactly how to negotiate with each client/campaign.

Client Interaction and Perceived Value
I was once told a story about a famous NY photographer by his assistant. The photographer would set up 5-10 extra, unnecessary lights, for every photoshoot and then set them all to fire a fraction of a second late so that they wouldn't affect the actual picture. The set might have 10 lights set up but only 1 or 2 were actually affecting the image. The assistant heard one of the art directors say to another "look at this production, we would have never gotten this quality if we had hired the other guy."

Now this is a story is way over the top but perceived value is a very real thing. Why does a photographer need to shoot with a Hasselblad digital camera to shoot images for a web campaign? Why do you need a 10 million dollar studio to shoot products on seamless? You don't, but your clients appreciate it. I spoke to an art director at a large advertising agency and he told me that they liked to hire a specific photographer because that photographer spent a ton of the photography budget on everyone involved with the shoot. The photographer would hire a professional chef to show up and cook for agency reps. His studio was extremely nice and for the art director "it was so refreshing to get out of our crappy offices and go to his studio for a shoot."

Production Value
Production value is the biggest thing separating a good picture from a great one. Haven't you ever watched a behind the scenes video of a giant campaign photoshoot and thought "man, they are only using 1 light, I could totally do this." Well it's true you could, but most of us are to lazy to do it the right way. High end photographers think about making flawless images. You might have an amazing location and dress but if your model doesn't look professional then neither will your picture. Fashion photoshoots require 5 major components and most average photographers fall short in at least 1 of these areas. The model, lighting, location or set, outfit, and the post production must all be world class for the final picture to be world class. As I said above, many of the best photographers in the world are not very good at each of these things, but they realize their shortcomings and they hire a team to handle each aspect. The photographers work with modeling agencies to get the best talent available for every photoshoot. If the lighting is extremely complex many of these photographers have a team of lighting specialists that recreate the photographer's "vision." The photographer has a location scout or a set designer to find or build the perfect location for each picture. Hair, makeup and clothing stylists are brought in to make the models look as perfect as they possibly can. After the shoot it's very rare for these photographers to do the retouching themselves; they almost always have someone on staff or send their photos out for retouching.

The Unnamed Trait
If you want to become a big name photographer everything I've written above is extremely important, but I don't believe that any of those traits are THE most important. The most important trait is something that I don't think I can fully explain with a couple of words. This trait has nothing to do with photography specifically, it has everything to do with success in general. Successful people are "Do'ers." By that I mean successful people accomplish things. In many cases it doesn't even matter what they do, they just have to do something, anything, over and over again. "Talented" people take initiative to do, create, or start something. The average person doesn't actually do anything themselves; they go to work, they do what they are told, and then they come home and watch tv and get ready for the next day of work. Successful people see a problem and then fix it. They have an idea and they create something. Think about the people that you look up to in your life. You probably admire them because they have done something unique or different or they do something specific very well.

The average person is a talker. They claim to be smart, they claim to be talented and they claim to have great ideas. But they also always have an excuse about why they aren't doing anything. Don't you know a person that is always planning something big but their big ideas never turn out? Every time you talk to them they have given up on the last idea but this new idea is "it" and this time it's really going to work. You probably have very little respect for this person because each time someone promises you something and then can't deliver you lose a little bit of faith in them. It's always easier to "talk" than it is to "do." These same people are the ones that will sit back and look at other people who are doing things and talk bad about them or their projects. These are the people that love to visit websites like ours and attack the writers or the photographers in the articles for not doing a good enough job. The truth is, successful people don't have enough time to hate on other people because they are too busy doing things- like making money.

If there is one thing you take away from this article let it be this: stop talking and start doing. My world is filled with people with "great ideas" that they want me to be a part of. At this point I only want to be involved with people that have proven that they actually can accomplish their goals. Everyone has good ideas, that is not a unique talent. The talent lies in making your idea a reality.

When Patrick and I came up with idea for Fstoppers I tried to get other photographers in the area involved and nobody was interested. If the rolls were reversed I wouldn't have been either. Two wedding photographers had an idea for yet another photography website? We had no experience in web design or video production and we wanted to start a video based website? That's crazy. At the time we were just talkers like everyone else. Through a lot of hard work and luck, Fstoppers did turn into something and because of that one relatively small success, we can say with confidence that we had a pretty ambitious idea and we made something of it. The creation of this simple website has gained me access to the secret club of photographers that "do". Without Fstoppers I would have never been able to meet my idols.

Now you may be thinking, what in the world does this have to do with photography? It has everything to do with photography. No matter where you are in your photography career you need to be creating better images on a weekly basis. This does not mean that you need to take more images, it means you need to create better images. Do you talk about your next concept for a photograph or do you plan it out and shoot it within a few days and then move on to the next idea? When you do shoot for yourself how meticulous are you in regards to the final product? Are you involving the most talented models, stylists and retouchers available in your area? It may be difficult to get the most talented people in town to collaborate with you at the beginning but once you prove yourself, just like we did with Fstoppers, the talent will find you. I bet you have an idea for a single photo or a photography series or a behind the scenes video that you have been thinking about for literally years. Turn off your computer and your TV and actually do it. When you're done with it, enjoy the feeling of accomplishing a goal for a day and then move on to the next idea.

The photographers that I idolize may not be a better photographers than me, technically speaking, but they are far better than me in the areas that actually matter. I am still trying to figure out how to make the jump from average photographer up to the "top" but as I said before, I don't think there is a top. The road to success for 99% of people isn't a jump, it's a steady incline from one successful project to the next. You're not going to go directly from shooting girls on Model Mayhem to shooting a campaign for Prada but if you act like every one of your photoshoots is for Prada I have no doubt you will get there. The photographers that we all look up to had to start from the bottom just like us.

In my mind I am a very average wedding photographer so I am always shocked and flattered to hear that I have inspired someone else in some way. Three years ago, before Fstoppers, I was struggling to book my next job just like all of you and nobody knew who I was. Honestly I'm still struggling to book photography jobs today. I didn't think that Fstoppers would ever turn into what it is now. I simply had an idea and unlike all of my other failed ideas, this one actually worked. I did something and it paid off. I'm honestly no different than you, at best I'm just a few years ahead of you.

I hope that this article has inspired you. I hope you now realize that you are just as capable as anyone of "making it". But the truth is, I didn't really write it for you. I wrote this to myself because I am probably the laziest person I know. I needed to give myself a pep-talk for 2013. There are a lot of ideas that I need to make realities.

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Lee Morris is a professional photographer based in Charleston SC, and is the co-owner of Fstoppers.com

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Thanks :) 

Great read.  Definitely something I needed today.

Great article. I mostly agree - but to a certain amount also disagree.
I do believe there is such a thing as talent. Yes skill in something can progress with hard work or practice - but also think that raw talent counts for a lot.I'm not looking down on people but instead saying this from a point of view of someone who I don't think has much, at least in the creativity side of things. To get to the point .... people with such talent can be "better" with less get up and go or practice I think.

I'm rather guilty at the moment of having a project in mind but not doing anything about it.
The internet is a time-sponge, taking time that it doesn't need. I should just close this browser and

Good topic Lee,
"At this point I only want to be involved with people that have proven that they actually can accomplish their goals. Everyone has good ideas, that is not a unique talent. The talent lies in making your idea a reality."
and this: "I assumed that once you reached “the top” you could relax but I’ve found that there is no “top”. "
and of couse: "The Photographers You Idolize Are No Better Than You"

you just read my mind )

I've start two years ago and have no idea how to ask somebody to pose me, but I've start with one thing - I need to work for my portfolio, after this my portfolio will work for me. Unfortunately my progress too fast to collect enougth images - I look on my pictures, which I took an year ago, and I have no idea, how I can took so worst photo. At begun I've saw an untold amount of great photographers around me, and a huge numbers of awesome and genius in internet. For now most of "great" photographers became mediocrity, "awesome" became just good, and I see that number of genius photographers not so big. Other guys - reachable within few years of practice, self-criticue, self-analysing and trying remove mistakes to make my pictures better than now (I know - I've met few of my idols already, and I saw exactly same things that you told). 

I'm not sure about usefulness of this topic for "talkers", but I believe - this topic very useful for "doers", and after reading this they will find additional forces to keep moving.

Thanks for your hard work to create this article.

Wow, thank you. You hit the nail. I somehow knew and felt it before but its so good to get that reconfirmed. I need to kick my ass and realize my ideas!
One of the best articles ever. Maybe too good to be passed to others ;)

OK, actually its so good I had to share it - I put the link on my new and first ever blog http://f16plus.blogspot.co.at/

at least I had a start and kicked my ass to do something

2013 will be a "let's do it" year !

Well done Lee.

Glad I started my morning with this.

Lee. I've only read about 6 paragraphs as I struggle to do extensive
reading, probably why Photography bit me. But from what I've read so far, I can
really relate to your perspective and thoughts on this. I have a troublesome
modesty surrounding everything I do, but when I compare my work (of 3 years
experience) to many professionals I actually get excited and feel as if I'm
heading in a good direction. This normally does not last long as I quickly fall
back in the 'I don't think I'm good enough' scenario.

I've bookmarked this so I'll continue reading again, but so far, so good. Well
done!

great stuff! Thanks for sharing this! 

Wonderful article - thank you!!

Wow, one of the best article I have read ever!  I really needed to see this, I think as artists we all doubt our ability constantly and I consistently find myself asking "am I good enough?".  I own a florist business and constantly have the self motivation battle with that in addition to fighting with what I really want to do which is full time photography.    AS a Brit expat my visa to stay in the USA means I have to have a successful business and meet lots of requirements and so making that leap I'm not sure will ever happen and I am getting old!  My favourite part though was that we all make mistakes as I shot half an outdoor portrait shoot at ISO 1000!!!!!!!  Doh

Right, this is why I keep fstoppers in my google reader. Thanks for the read.

Thanks Lee I needed to read this. I picked up a camera properly 18 months ago when my marriage broke up and I needed to develop a new social life. I love seeing live bands but was uncomfortable going on my own, I was comfortable with a camera in my hand. Since then, I have had a mix of good luck and hard work and have been lucky to shoot some really well known bands. I know I'm shooting beyond my ability and my equipment but people like what I do and some of it's been published. I'm trying to learn as fast and as hard as I can to catch up to the opportunities, however none of this stops the innr voice 'You don't know what you're doing'. This has helped enormously, thank you!!

I read it, even if it is long!! it´s a great read!! Thank you for your sincere words and for sharing your inspiration!. I have already share this with my other contacts....and it is not only for photographers what you have written her, it´s a great message for any one trying to be different to change!!! Thanx

Guadalupe Segura
Lima-Perú

Gr8 Piece of writing! Thanks

Good one. I remember hearing Scott Kelby talking about screwing up a bunch of shots during an NFL game because he'd  forgotten to reset something or other, maybe ISO. At least he admitted he screws up. Made me feel like a pro. I've often left my ISO on 3200 and wondered why I was severely over exposing.

Great Great article Lee!! Keep on "DO" ing!!!!

Let me be an other one to say thanks!

Lee, this is fantastic. Thank you!

It's true that a lot of famous photographers are great salesmen and not necessarily that great at photography. But being good at making your name known and convincing people you are is more important in this world than taking great photos and/or being a master retoucher. I've seen so many great photographers who won't make ends meet in spite of (in many cases) taking better photos than famous photographers. It is a pity that many of the masters are shy and highly self-critical whilst others are outspoken and loudmouthed. I'm always happy when I meet someone that remains humble and still skilled, whilst getting the attention they deserve. Joey L is one great example. Unfortunately he won't always get jobs because of peoples' preconceptions about his youth.  

Nicely written. thanks

So, so true, and a very timely reminder - Thanks!

Incredibly motivating article that opened my eyes to not only what I may be doing wrong, but what I am doing that is perfectly normal....Thank you!

Nice bro... nice 

The timing of this is perfect! I've been thinking about this exact topic so much lately, it really is true that  successful people are the ones who DO things. What's the use of a good idea if that's all it stays? Great article - thanks!

This is what I come to fstoppers for!

I just recently did a product shoot for a company's website and had 4 lights setup. I was only firing 2 of the lights.  I've also heard clients say, "wow, we never would have been able to do this on our own"  Even something as simple as the beeping of the strobes to indicate the flash is ready to fire again added to the professional feel of the entire shoot.  

Thank you so much Lee !

Thanks Lee.

Honestly, being a low income/struggling to pay my gear loan/2 jobs a week/wishing i was somewhere else/struggling to get ahead, kind of guy from TJ MX. It hits home, it really does, and, you know, I've been making that steady climb in my home town and people are starting to know me and appreciate my business and vision, but then I get a week without booking anything and my world ends, you know?

Instead of getting out there and shooting I get all depressed. I sincerely think it is because i literally have 0cents to my name, and everything I make is either to pay my credit card or to pay my gear loan which I took out when I decided to go all in with photography this year, and although It HAS been a really goood good year, I sometimes feel I have nothing to show for it.

I've been planning on giving back to the community and shooting portraits for an orphanage and a elders home.. have I done it, no. Too lazy/lack of inspiration or both. This is really a wake up call and I repeat, your article HITS HOME.

Thanks Lee.
Cheers.
Alex.

There is no shame is working another job while you get your business rolling. Patrick and I met when we were working at a Ritz Camera for $7/hour.

I believe I had worked my way up to $9 an hour thank you very much....plus ESPs, don't forget those.  Yeah we have no shame and neither should you.

Thanks guys, I know, no shame at all. And believe me I've been applying.. No hits yet, especially because I'm right at the border between SD and TJ.

 If I choose to work in SD I would have to commute 3 hours not because of the distance but the time it take me to cross the border and if I choose TJ well then, you get the idea... I'm still looking and I haven't lost hope. Thanks for everything guys. And especially for teaching newcomers and amateurs like me what we would not have learn anywhere else.

Alex

An excellent read, as with anything you seem to tackle, Lee, top drawer. 

That's my inspiration for the day. Many thanks!

thank you so much for this article. it was "wake up call" for me. thank you again.

Great article!! Definitely inspiring to me. I need to take this advice and do something with my career now!

Great reading! Very nicely done.

This might be the best written and important articles on fstoppers. Nice job Lee.

Thank you everyone for your comments. I don't have time to respond to each of you but I appreciate your stories and kind words and I want you to know I'm reading every comment.

Lee, can I translate it and put to my blog with backlink?

thanks

Yes

A fairly long read for sure, but well worth the time invested.

I think the biggest, but also most ambiguous, bit of advice comes with the "Unnamed Trait". There re many artists/photographers out there right now doing incredibly well. They have built a brand and recognition for themselves, but don't really seem to stand out from the static of their would be competition. It would be nice if there were an exact equation for that type of success!

I think articles like this are important in a sense that they educate the few of us that may have the abilities to reach this potential, but only have ourselves as roadblocks. I also have hopes that it would educate all others to help uplift these few truly gifted individuals.
In a world of electronics where "everyone is a photographer", there should be a better recognition of the truly gifted and a better understanding of what it takes to actually make things happen for them.

You told me alot of good points.Thanks.

but if i work hard and have a great concept in photography..so it is possible to go on the Top.

Fantastic article!

Nominee for article of the year...

I am a few days away from putting my photography business on hold and getting a paying job.  I've been trying to learn everything about my equipment, hours and hours of videos on youtube and always finding myself needing a new piece of equipment for my next idea.  I stopped following all the advice that all this "TOP PHOTOGRAPHERS" were giving people like me because it was just stressing me out and I honestly didn't feel like it was accurate.  Now I only visit just one website Fstoppers...Thank you for this article guys.

Thank you, Lee. Brilliant insight.

 I feel the same way you feel Alex.  Sorry for saying it like this but I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone.

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