The Apple versus Windows discussion tends to get some strong opinions from both sides. Many creatives swear by Apple and consider them to be the only option, and this is mostly due to the operating system. Preferences aside, it would seem that Macs are sometimes the slower and worse option for creatives.
If I'm not mistaken, most photographers and videographers tend to use the Adobe suite software for editing and post-production. As much as I like Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premiere Pro, I wish they were better optimized; unfortunately, they remain relatively slow. I can appreciate how it's probably difficult to do that for Windows due to the vast number of configurations on the market. Even so, it seems Apple Macs are still the slower option in comparison. In a recent video by Linus Tech Tips, they demonstrate why and how Macs continue to remain the slower option. It would seem that this is actually intentionally implemented by Apple. Sebastian discusses how most people that buy Apple products are interested in the look and feel as opposed to the raw performance. For creatives in our industry, this is a problem, because the "Pro" models from Apple are not in fact for professional users.
Personally, I'm not surprised by this because, in my experience, Apple has sometimes neglected the professional market. I can appreciate how they have other priority markets that are more profitable, but this doesn't help me, and for that reason, I now continue with Windows.
That's not true, clearly, Nikon is for wannabes :P.
The difference is while Canon, Nikon, Sony and most of the other camera brands it really comes down to personal preference. For simple photo and video editing it doesn't make much of a difference. Getting into more advanced work you are no longer looking at anything prepackaged. You are building your computer for whatever tasks you need it to accomplish and apple doesn't give you that option. Even being able to cool your system properly can turn into a huge issue for Apple computers. I don't know if Apple gives you the option to have an overlay of what your computer is actually doing but thermal throttling is very real.
I'll admit with my current computer it was a week or so of tinkering with settings to get everything running exactly how I wanted but with Apple you don't have that option and you'd be losing performance. I got a bit more performance out of my ram by overclocking it. After that I did a very slight overclock of my cpu but managed to keep it stable with a decent undervolt (runs cooler at a higher clock speed). Video card is the same thing.
As far as I'm concerned, Apple gave up on the Pro market when they removed all the useful connections on the MacBook Pro and forced the use of dongles and/or port replicators. Between professional shooting, I did a years long stint in the IT industry, where I learned that (at the time) running Windows was like walking around all day with your pants down around your ankles when it came to security vulnerability.
I've been out of IT and back in the professional photography field for well over 10 years and friends with far more current experience in IT field have informed me that Windows is far more secure and robust these days so I've been considering switching back as my Macs die off.
In deference to the Apple hardware, I have gone well beyond the average TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) so I have gone well beyond exceeding the initial investment. While I've never been an Apple fanboy, experience tells me that they have used higher quality hardware which is why they tend to last far longer. At home my oldest of my two MBPs' is an early 2011 and stays on my desk. Yes, its slower- No dispute there but its also about 8 years old without any major hardware failures. I've definitely gotten my money's worth out of it along with the newer MBP (The last generation before Apple decided to blow off pros). The 27" iMac in my studio is a late 2011 i7 with 32gb of ram and while I've noticed that my later MBP is faster, it still works well enough when it comes to imaging work.
Like I said- As they die off, modern Windows based units are in my future.
Apple!!? Windows!!??? What are they?
My goto is a netbook with an Intel Atom. When I want to export something, I just go on vacation. When I get back it's done. It really makes me want to travel more.
I have always used Windows - not because I dislike mac it's just what I have always used and always will.
I would rather squirt tabasco sauce in my eyes.
I second your preference and would love to watch lol.
Prove it!
Oh boy....boring. No other topics?
Nope just this one :-).
I use Apple cause I like it. I don’t like the windows. This speed issue is something I could relate too. Thanks to this video I know a bit more about what I’m experiencing on my MBP and have a more realistic expectation for the next MBP I’ll be getting.
The new Mac laptops are not build for 'pro' use, in my opinion. I've had a 13 MBP for 10 years now (it's a 09), and it's still running strong and can do most things, slowly, but no hickups. I maxed the ram and switched to an SSD along the way. Now it's become my wife's mobile workhorse since she doesn't like to sit at her iMac at the desk all day, and she's very happy with it (she typically has 50+ chrome tabs open, Office, Illustrator and Photoshop all going at the same time). Yes, it sounds like a banshee 1/2 the time, but it works and keeps up. I'm still amazed it's still ticking after 10 years!
Which brings me to the new Lenovo X1 I got as my mobile workhorse alongside the iMac that we share. It's nice, fast, and the battery lasts literally all day. It also is about 1/2 the price than the comparable MBP, and with an egpu attached can literally do desktop-level video editing. It also doesn't throttle as badly as new Mac, and the legendary Thinkpad keyboard is miles away from those new apple macbook ones. Would Apple still make a similarly well-built MBP like the previous gen, I'd totally have gone that route, but this new generation it just doesn't make the grade.
Clickbait. Wish these people would stop with the bullshit content. Also wish people would stop believing it. I had a 2014 Macbook Pro and it worked great until I replaced it for a fresher display. At the end of the day, go with whatever works for you.
Linus literally provides evidence for his claims. Nice try though.
If someone feels like their Mac just isn't working fast enough with Adobe products, get Affinity! Those are engineered for the MacOS environment, and are a much better value, as you aren't supporting the bloated Adobe corporation. Get what it takes for you to produce great images, and I'll do likewise.
That doesn't change the fact that whatever equivalent software you're running will be slower, on Mac hardware you literally paid twice as much for. Looks pretty though, full marks for that! :)
Affinity Photo and Capture One scoot right along on my 2012 MBPro.
I'm sure it does, and it probably would on both the PC's I could buy for the same amount of money, because it's the exact same hardware.
I was a Windows guy maybe 10 years ago, having machines built up for purpose builds. At least once a year I was dealing with serious issues and down time. My computer guy, who hates Macs, told me I should go to Macs, I would be better off for what I wanted.
Switched and never looked back, until lately. Apple refusing to update drivers for Nvidia is going to be it I think. I want/need to use Cuda, so once my current OS doesn't work for what I need to run, I probably will have no choice but to go back to Windows.
Shame Apple has to be such dicks....
Anyone notice that today's fanboys are Windows users? While Mac users get work done, Windows users seem to feel the need to justify why they use or changed to Windows (kind of like Sony camera users). I'm guessing it is all that time they have to sit and watch that Blue Screen of Continual Updates that takes over their computer for 30-100 minutes at a time.
Or maybe people are just getting tired of Apple and their glitter rolled crap. Maybe people are getting tired of manufacturers producing cameras with extremely minor updates. Maybe other companies are taking advantage of how the big players in the industry are dragging their heels.
You never know, Apple might start supporting Nvidia again and make their pcs from just a few years ago relevant again.
Also blue screen point made me chuckle. You haven't used a windows pc in a longggg time have you lol.