The Fuji X100VI has been riding shotgun on the hype train since its announcement. And while it's a good camera, this camera is better.
The Fuji X100VI has been so hyped up that it has apparently become the most preordered camera in history. There is even a limited edition version that is selling for astronomical amounts, considering the only thing you get from the limited edition version is a special logo on the body and lens cap. It's not even a special color or finish? But, while everyone is riding this hype train, I think it's important to point out that there is a better all-around camera available without any type of wait. And that camera is the Sony a7CR. And while I'll be primarily talking about the a7CR, an equally great option at a cheaper price point is the Sony a7C II. But more on that later!
The first thing I want to do is talk about the specs because the a7CR beats the Fuji in pretty much every single spec category. Instead of a 40MP crop sensor, you get a 60 MP full frame sensor. And this is the same sensor found in the Sony a7R V, which is one of the best full-frame sensors in existence. You also get better image stabilization, with 7 stops on the Sony instead of the 6 stops offered by Fuji. The Sony also gives you better all-around autofocus. There are more points of coverage, and the focus tracking is faster and more sticky when it locks focus. This is because the Sony has an entire AI processing unit dedicated to advanced autofocus features. Things like the ability to track faces, eyes, animals, insects, cars, trains, and planes. And while Fuji also has this ability, more importantly, the Sony has human pose recognition. Which means it can calculate where and how the human form will move through a frame. For example, if someone has their back to the frame, as they turn, the camera can recognize this and begin locking focus at the point where the eye will be before the eye is actually available! So even though the Fuji X100VI does have upgraded focus ability compared to the previous model, after playing with one for a while, I could quickly tell that the tracking ability wasn't on the same level. Not terrible by any means, but still noticeably better on the Sony.
From here, let's talk a bit about the physical aspect of the camera. The main selling point of the Fuji is its small compact size. But in fact, the Sony body is actually smaller and lighter than the Fuji if you compare the setup without a lens. Add one of the various compact Sony lens options, and you have a setup that is now bigger and heavier than the X100, but it's not too far away. For example, an a7CR paired with the Sony 35mm CZ f2.8 lens is 515 g for the body and 120 g for the lens. This leaves us with a total weight of 635 grams. In comparison, the Fuji is 521 g with body and lens. But the key here is that you get to choose which compact lens you want to have attached to the Sony. So while you are stuck with a 35mm equivalent on the Fuji, the Sony gives you a ton of possibilities. And although the Sony will never fit inside a pocket, as a past owner of an X100, I never once felt like that camera was a pocket-sized camera either. And when hanging on my shoulder from a strap, or even shooting with the camera all day, I think you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference in weight. In fact, I’d bet at the end of a long day, the Fuji would feel heavier because it just doesn't have as good of a grip when compared to the Sony.
Now, one area I do feel the Fuji wins is in general aesthetics. While I do Iove the silver version of the a7CR, especially paired with the silver Small Rigs bottom plate, the vintage vibe of the Fuji with the manual dials and viewfinder definitely feels more complete. If you need an optical viewfinder, then the Fuji is also the way to go. Though when I owned the X100 in the past, I found myself exclusively using the EVF or rear screen, so for me, it was sort of a wasted feature.
But one thing the Fuji has I wish the Sony had is a joystick. While I've learned to use the touch screen to move my focus point when using the a7CR, I still think having a joystick would give a better shooting experience. That said, as a whole, the Sony has more customizable buttons, which results in a lot more in-the-moment functionality. So given the choice, I think I would rather have the extra buttons over the joystick, rather than have the joystick and very few custom buttons. And while the Fuji has those nice vintage dials, they are sort of a one-hit-wonder setup because if you decide to use the front or rear dials to control your shutter or ISO, the dedicated dials on top essentially become eye candy. Where on the Sony, the dials are fully customizable to do ISO, aperture, shutter, and exposure compensation, and you can even set the dial to control things like picture profiles, or audio levels.
Even better is that the Sony offers the 1-2-3 option on the main dial that essentially lets you have complete functionalities programmed to a simple dial turn. An example of this is that I have my 1 set for my everyday shooting, with aperture priority, auto ISO, AF tracking, and all that other fun stuff. But one thing I find myself needing occasionally is the ability to lock focus on something and not have the AF lock onto a face or eye. So rather than dive into the menu or use up a custom button to turn face detection on and off, I have dial 2 setup so that my focus mode changes to a non-tracking option and face and eye detection are turned off. And this would work for any situation where you find yourself needing to make multiple setting changes for certain situations. Maybe you want this 2-dial set to turn the camera to ASPC crop mode while also changing the drive mode to hi and the file output to uncompressed raw. The possibilities are pretty endless.
Speaking of APS-C crop mode, since the Sony is a full-frame camera, you can also shoot in crop mode which basically crops into the full-frame sensor so you're shooting on the same size sensor as the Fuji. And because the a7CR is a 60-megapixel sensor, you still get 26 MP in this crop mode. So now your lenses can do double duty with the Sony without a ton of compromise in comparison to the X100. For example, if you have a 24mm lens, you can shoot 35mm in crop mode. Or if you go with the 50mm G compact lens, you can get 75mm in crop mode. And it's this feature that led me to go with the a7CR instead of the a7C II. While the a7C II still has this ability, since it's a lower-resolution sensor, you obviously won't get as much resolution when in crop mode.
From here, one of the things everyone always loves to talk about is the film simulations for the Fuji, which is something I never really understood. I always shoot raw for flexibility in post-production. And if there is ever a set of images I want to quickly share with a certain style, I can easily just run them through Impossible Things Ai editing in Lightroom and have a basic style applied to all the images and also have them auto-adjusted for things like white balance, exposure, contrast, and even shadow recovery. If you really want those in-body film simulations, though, I found this place called Sony Film Simulations, where this guy figured out how to adjust the Sony Picture Profiles to emulate various film simulations. And because it's an outside service, you wouldn't be tied to only FujiFilm simulation and could instead use things like Kodak Portra 400 or Kodak Tri-X in addition to the Fuji simulations like everyone's favorite Classic Chrome. And while these film simulations aren't perfect, I don't think the ones baked into the Fuji cameras are perfect either. So, it all comes down to getting close to that style you're after. But again, for me, I'd rather keep the post-production aspect of photography outside of the camera. At least until someone can let me upload my own preset or style into a camera.
Last thing we need to dive into is price. And both the Sony a7CR and a7C II are more expensive than the Fuji X100VI and that price doesn't even include a lens. Thankfully, there are a good number of reasonably priced compact lenses you can get for the Sony setup. But even then, if you go with the cheaper a7C II and a 24mm G lens, you’re looking to spend about $1,000 more than the X100VI. But that's assuming you can even get your hand on a retail copy. If you resort to eBay, you could be spending even more on the Fuji than you would on the Sony. And the only reason I could possibly recommend the Fuji over the Sony is if you need an optical viewfinder, you live for a joystick, or you need your camera to have vintage dials and a built-in flash. Otherwise, I think the Sony is all-around a better camera. And I'm not even getting into the video aspect, but the Sony has way better features and capabilities on that front as well.
In conclusion, while the Fuji X100VI has gained significant attention for its vintage vibe, compact form factor, and amazing image quality, the Sony a7CR still emerges as the superior choice for those seeking unmatched performance and versatility in a compact camera. While the cost is steeper, the features and capabilities you gain are worth the added cost. And even though the Fuji may have better aesthetics, I still constantly get comments and compliments on my Sony a7CR.
Is it really fair to compare the A7CR to the X100VI when, with the addition of a lens could see the cost close to $4000? That’s well over double the price (not silly eBay prices) of the X100VI. You do mention the A7C II which is still a fair bit more expensive with lens but the A7CR is the main focus here.
There are other cameras that are more expensivethen even the a7CR and still get compared to the x100 line. Price is absolutely a factor. But at the end of the day, they are both aiming to be compact cameras for everyday carry and travel.
The problem is, there really isn’t a comparable camera to the X100VI at a similar (new) price - the user experience is totally different too. Saying more expensive cameras get compared doesn’t really justify the A7CR comparison, especially if people in the market for an X100VI are attracted by the price and can’t afford to spend more.
Everything you write is correct. But isn't it the case that with Sony you get what you pay for and also with Fuji you get what you pay for? Even if it is not important but rather interesting: with a cost factor of about 2.4:1 I dare to say that Sony is not conditionally worth 2.4 times more. It depends on the respective user and the field of application what you decide on.
what they said, and also -> Sony's menu. a disaster. Fuji is already not super straight forward but getting around a Sony is really really annoying.
That goes for any camera if you are not familiar with it. Take this video for the Canon Mark IV. 23 minutes and he's barely 1/8th into the settings. :)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bD8xlLYeDA)
Proper photographers set up:
1. Custom Buttons
2. Function Buttons
3. Favorite list.
Only noobs continue to menu dive and then complain.
nope. sonys are particularly hated because of this. Not the same as any other camera. Much much worse.
Nope. Sonys are particularly hated by Sony haters. The menu is just a desperate and last ditch effort to whine about something.
D810: "Menus and menus after menus" LOL
(https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxVmV6jFJWCpGrcXXSzoTu_Fz64Vdi1mub)
Proper photographers set the controls to “M”.
Only noobs press buttons 👍🏻
That's not what we're even talking about. Nice try, though.
weird, I have been a professional photographer for more then a decade, and most of my images are taken with aperture priority and auto ISO. Guess I'm a noob still and didn't even know it!
I must be missing your joke. Don't you need to press a button to take a photo? Even if you're using a remote?
Also, if you have bad eyesight, "M" with targeted/tracking autofocus. It's annoying when your sharp photos look blurry to everyone else.
Sarcasm is obviously not something in many people’s vocabulary 🤦♂️
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So, in other words, you don't use it often so you're not familiar with it.
I used to second shoot for a wedding photographer and he would have me use his Canon 6d because he can't open my a7iii files. I had to go through every single tab every line of the menu. At the end of the day, I got done what I needed to get done without the sniveling. You have a choice, be professional or be a pansy. Sounds like you've chosen the latter route.
Even if Sony menus are 'bad', once you set the camera up to your liking you are rarely going into the menus but using the function and user menus and custom buttons. I own an A7III and can say I've used it for so long now I pretty much know where the settings I use are within the menu system. You just get used to it and it's not a problem.
Exactly. The only time I get into the menu is to format the cards, sync the time, and sensor cleaning.
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I was merely pointing out my own experience of using a Sony camera for five years now. I don’t hate Sony menus and didn’t find it a particular ‘pain in the ass’ to set up once I got familiar with it (couple of days). As with any menu system, I just get used to it. As long as I can quickly get to the functions I need when out shooting, that’s all that really matters to me. If you think Sony menus are bad then that’s your own valid opinion and we are allowed to have different opinions.
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The X100VI does something I thought was impossible. Its menu is actually worse than Sony's. It's even worse than the old menu system Sony had. There are things Fujifilm does well, but menus are definitely not one of them.
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I'll take my Z8 any day over both these, Way overpriced cameras! Lets talk about Video on these cameras. I had the X100V, sold it because it overheated too fast when used as a Blog camera.
I'm not sure about Sony; I had their Nex7. I loved that camera, but it also constantly overheated.
Now my Z8 does get warm, and sometimes it gives me the Hotcard warning, but never a shutdown.
Overpriced? Your Z8 is $4000 BODY ONLY when not on sale. Then, when you add their big and ugly 35 f1.8, it's close to $4900.
And the Z8 cannot be called a compact camera.
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I have no doubt it performs well. I'd wager, better than the Fuji, which have been reported to have soft images and AF not to the big 3 standards. However, one of the premises of this article is small form factor, which Nikon 35mm is not. It's the Quasimodo of 35mm lenses.
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Did anyone else stop reading at "But in fact, the Sony body is actually smaller and lighter than the Fuji if you compare the setup without a lens"?
I imagine it's even lighter if you don't include a battery. Even more so if you tape a large rock to the front of the X100IV.
Perhaps you should compare the sizes with the X100 in a waterproof chamber. That would be no less silly than the no lens comparison.
The X100 fits nicely in a jacket pocket. I've been carrying one that way for 10 years. The Sony (with a lens) does not.
Also, I'm not sure that "The $4000 camera setup is better than the $1600 camera" is the news story you think it is.
Unfortunately this misses the whole point of cameras like the X100 series. It’s not about the pixels, lenses or even the images. It’s all about the user experience.
For the record I have an A7CR and I like it. But no matter how much I throw at it it’s nothing like an X100 in the hand. Sure the Fuji is limited in comparison. That’s what’s great about it. Tactile controls. OVF. Great files. Or set it on auto and shoot like the cool hipster you want to be.
Apples and oranges.
Wow..... I don't really know where to start here. For reference I own a Leica Q2 Monochrome and a GFX camera so I am basically not worried about the sensor size. I don't need to compensate. I will just leave it at this: that Sony camera is butt ugly- period. I wouldn't buy it for that reason alone. Why would I buy an ugly interchangeable lens camera whose files require an a lot of time in Adobe to make presentable when what I want is is a fixed lens camera with a 35mm lens, a leaf shutter, a built in ND filter and one that shoots incredible jpegs because I don't want to spend half my life editing photos. So I'll take a big pass on this completely off the mark comparison. I also own the Ricoh GR III and I would get that over a Sony camera too.
Buy Leica :)
The price difference is not just a bit steeper it is more or less double going for Sony rather than the X100.
I understand that the point of this is showing you could get a small body full frame camera instead of the X100VI - but wouldn't the a6700 be a closer-in-price comparison? It also has the latest auto-focus tech, has the latest video tech and would be closer in price to the X100VI.
There are lots of cameras that are objectively or subjectively "better" than the X100* at many things. The Sony a7C* line would not be my first choice. Most hype of the X100 is because of the retro styling. Sony fails there. People who actually use the X100* cameras care about the optical viewfinder which has some real advantages. All the Sony a7C bodies including the "R" variant have woefully inadequate EVF's. They are small and unusable in daylight if you wear eyeglasses.
I don't get your EVF comment. I don't have an a7c, but I do have an a6000 and a6400. They have small EVFs and I wear eyeglasses. I have no problems in daylight. If anything, they aren't as good in lower light, but don't feel they are unusable even then.
Just to let you know, some of us think the X100 is uglier than the Sony, and we like interchangeable lenses... and don't mind the menu. I know that will save me a thousand or so by not getting on the bandwagon but I can live with it.
Another sony paid advertisement. Every time there is a new camera out sony starts doing this aggresive nonsense advertisement with people with unreasonable arguments and unfair comparisons. Buy whatever the flop you want, its your money.
Definitely not a Sony ad and I paid my own money for the setup 🤗
Jason, your comment regarding video recording left out a major reason the A7C series (A7C, A7CII, A7CR) is decent, but not stellar in comparison to the Fujifilm APS-C line, including "rangefinder" style model: readout (sensor-scanning) rate. A number of Fujifilm models and the new Sony A6700 APS-C body sport a much faster sensor readout, which is a big deal--very little rolling-shutter, compared to the A7C (and other A7 model line).
Panning, and fast-moving objects will look much better taken with the faster-scanning sensors of the Fujifilm bodies and the A6700. The advantage of several of the Fujifilm models with analog-style dials like those of this Fujifilm model is the "retro" look of 20th-Century film cameras is the simplicity of controls for those who prefer to adjust their settings without tons of sometimes-confusing menus in lieu of old-style dials.
While I own an A7C and various lenses, I have considered selling it and moving to a Fujifilm kit, for easy familiarity of shooting like I did last century.
Apart from the FOV, cropped 24mm images are not looking like the ones shot with an actual 35mm. The same holds true for any focal length.
I realize the Sony is definitely more versatile but better? Define better. For instance I submit my D3s or my H-X2 are significantly better the both the Fuji and the Sony in discussion here. Why? Well I could reach up and pick both in a second which makes them infinitely better than gear I don't own. I also argue my Cayenne S is a better car than my wife's XC-90, but she would wholeheartedly disagree.
Better is highly subjective and depending not only on tastes but also on intended use and enjoyment in use.