Canon Screwed up Again: The New R Camera Is Just a Mirrorless 5D Mark IV

Canon Screwed up Again: The New R Camera Is Just a Mirrorless 5D Mark IV

The 5D Mark IV didn't really impress when it was released two years ago. In the middle of the ongoing mirrorless war, the leaked brochure of the full-frame Canon R camera shows what seems to be a simple mirrorless 5D Mark IV.

The race to the bottom continues for Canon. After the boring 5D Mark IV, the stagnant 6D Mark II, and an insipid line of EOS M cameras, we are going to be served with what appears to be a derivative of an existing DSLR.

The sensor seems to be recycled from the 5D Mark IV with 30.3mp (30.4mp on the Mark IV), and identical values for the resolution (6720 x 4480), pixel unit, and total number of pixels. While the 5D Mark IV certainly has the best sensor made by Canon, it still lags behind the ones from Sony and Nikon.

IBIS (In-Body Image Stabilization) is missing, which makes sense because two of the four RF lenses are fitted with Image Stabilization (Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS STM Macro and the RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM). Also missing is the second card slot, but at least Canon sticks to the traditional SD card, unlike Nikon, which picked the expensive XQD format for its Z line.

In the video department, the Canon R can record in 4K UHD/30 and 1080p/60, but the amount of crop is unknown at this time. Unfortunately, based on the poor track record of this company regarding video, I fear the worst. The 5D Mark IV came with a 1.7x crop factor in 4K recording, while the fantastic DPAF (Dual Pixel Auto-Focus) was simply disabled on the Canon M50. At least Canon got rid of the inefficient MJPEG codec and the R camera can now record in h.264 at 120 Mbps.

Talking about auto-focus, the brochure indicates an impressive number of AF points with a maximum of 5,655 points. In terms of lens compatibility, the camera can be fitted with EF and EF-S lenses via the adapter, but the EF-M lenses are not compatible. Considering the poor selection of EF-M lenses, they won't be missed.

The four Canon RF lenses to be announced on September 5. Despite their weight, the RF 50mm f/1.2 and RF 28-70mm f/2 lenses are very appealing.

Here are some of the main specifications of the Canon R camera:

  • Sensor: 30.3 megapixels (6720 x 4480)
  • Image format: JPEG, RAW (14 bit Canon original), C-RAW (Canon original)
  • Card: 1 slot, SD/SDHC/SDXC
  • EVF: OLED color electronic viewfinder, 23mm eyepoint, 0.71x/33.3° magnification
  • Autofocus: Max. 5,655 when selected with cross keys. EV -6 to 18 (f/1.2, at 73°F/23°C, ISO 100, One-Shot AF)
  • Metering range: EV -3–20
  • ISO sensitivity: 100 to 40,000 (extended ISO: 50, 51,200, 102,400)
  • Maximum shutter speed: 1/8000 s
  • High-speed continuous shooting: 8 fps (5 fps at servo AF)
  • Video: 4K/30 and 1080/60, crop and video features unknown
  • Codec and bitrate: MPEG-4 AVC / h.264, 480 Mbps (All-I) or 120mbps (IPB)
  • LCD monitor: 2.15 millions dots, articulated flip screen, 100 percent coverage, 3.15 in./8.01 cm diagonal (2.63 in./6.67 cm width, 1.75 in./4.44 cm height)
  • Battery: LP-E6N, 370 shots CIPA rating (450 with power saving)
  • Weight: 660 g (including battery / memory card), 580 g (body only)
  • Size: 135.8 x 98.3 x 84.4 mm

To be fair, this camera will take nice pictures and sell like hot cakes. Canon products are extremely solid performers. Lovely colors, legendary reliability, good weather sealing, perfect ergonomics, and flawless customer service are part of the equation. Specifications are not everything, but I personally think that Canon missed another opportunity to be competitive. The Canon R system only demonstrates that this brand is not willing to give us anything more than they are forced to. In this case, Sony, Fuji, and the Micro Four Thirds cameras are what forced Canon to release a full-frame mirrorless product. Will it be enough to convince people not to switch to Sony and Panasonic? Personally, I find the Canon response quite pathetic. At this point, I would recommend to anyone to wait and see what other manufacturers are going to announce this month. Panasonic is expected to unveil its own full-frame mirrorless system on September 25, while Sony should introduce a new a7S III soon.

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194 Comments

Hahahah a fan boy wrote this article.

Oliver Kmia's picture

I'm a Canon shooter. I wish I could be a Canon fan boy.

So maybe you an explain your own confusion about Codec and bitrate:
MPEG-4 is a container
h264 is the codec, camera shoot 2 different bit-rate for 2 different qualities, but with one only codec
There is no one AVC and one h.264.
One is All-I One is Long gop.

Show very little knowledge to talk about a video product

What about the extra ring on the lenses for extra functionality?
Why just jump on only the soso aspect of the camera?

Click bait?

Oliver Kmia's picture

Hi. The article states correctly that the codec is h.264 but I wrote MPEG-4 AVC and h.264 in the specs list instead of ALL-I and IPB, which is now corrected. Thanks.

But there is some confusion in your comment, here is quick explanation:

MPEG is not a container but a set of standard defined by the Moving Picture Experts Group under several parts.

MPEG-4 AVC and h.264 are the exact same thing which is a codec (compression standard) defined by the MPEG group under Part 10 (MPEG-4 AVC) and by the ITU-T (h.264).

MP4 is the container (MPEG-4 Part 14).

All-I and IPB are the spatial algorithm methods used for compression.

Michael Holst's picture

Tell me more about what real pro's do!

John Dawson's picture

Why? His name and profile pic say it all. Ken, is that you?

Remy De Canniere's picture

It's a troll account FYI.

Michael Holst's picture

Shhhh! I'm fighting fire with fire.

Real pros shoot film, digital is for people shooting kid’s soccer games.

Real pros manually focus lenses, auto focus is for shooting little league games.

Real pros shoot chrome, print film is for shooting hippies.

Real pros shoot monochrome, color film is for shooting county fairs.

Real pros shoot twin reflex, single lens reflex is for shooting the World’s Fair.

Real pros shoot large format, 35mm is just for photos of your horselsss buggy.

Heratch Ekmekjian's picture

I'm having fun reading these comments. It's certainly more interesting than reading specs of a camera I may never buy.

One of the more successful "real Pro's" I know still shoots architecture for magazine and client work with Sinar view cameras.

Jon Dize's picture

In 43 years as a working, licensed, bonded photographer, I have never heard a REAL PRO use the term "REAL PRO." Stop slinging your genitals around, you're going to hurt yourself. This silliness is kindergarten crap.

How did you learn what real pros do?

Philip Chavez's picture

What a dumb answer...

So you think you now better. Why hasselblad made a mirrorless ? or the other `real pro` companies slowly switching to mirrorless ? or you just want to flame this pointless argument

Pieter Batenburg's picture

I really hope for your sake that this is a joke or a provocation. If not, you must be blind and totally ignorant.
People who still mirrorless is a joke and a fluke, aren't blind anymore but just plain stupid.

Francisco Hernandez's picture

Read the name and look at the profile photo, guys. Troll wasting your time and energy.

Charles Lynn's picture

This is ridiculous!

Given a photo, no one can tell which camera, lens had been used to take it, sometimes you cannot even tell if it came from an iPhone!

Camera won't make you a pro.

Chris Rogers's picture

Lmao you guys are gettin trolled hard core. "hugh Janus" lmao how have i never heard that XD. genius lol.

Okay, so take for example Okar Bakke, he have shot pictures for Lexus, Koenigsegg (car companies) exc, and he shoots mirrorless because it is better for his workflow. And I think most pro photographers to this day edits their photos in Lightroom.

Ryan Davis's picture

Real pros use glass plates and can hang their accessories off of their enormous handlebar moustaches.

Remy De Canniere's picture

In today's edition of shitty FStoppers comments : old man yells at clouds.

user-189304's picture

I'm becoming super tired of people doing nothing but complaining about meaningless first world crap.

user-189304's picture

"You must shoot Olympus".

I have no idea what that even means. What are you trying to say about Olympus shooters? Let's see, my stereotype of people who shoot Olympus are those who are into extreme sports.

In any case, if you must know, I shoot Nikon, Sony, Rolleiflex, Zero Image, Kodak, and Agfa.

Edit: cute troll account.

user-189304's picture

Yeah, that must be it, I'm a hipster.

But my demographic aside, at least I'm not stupid..

user-189304's picture

By definition it is not, dumb ass.

user-189304's picture

Yeah, alright, you got me :P :)

Rachel Rotchikokov's picture

Real photographer use Vivitar. You are Idiot.

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