Rumor: 100MP Canon EOS R With IBIS on the Horizon

Rumor: 100MP Canon EOS R With IBIS on the Horizon

A 100 MP Canon mirrorless body with IBIS would be the first stabilized sensor of this kind of resolution in a standard-sized body. If true, it could rewrite the playbook on ultra-high-megapixel cameras and could pose a serious problem for the medium format industry.

Canon Rumors reported a note from Northlight Images about the possibility of an extraordinarily high-resolution mirrorless EOS R body from Canon. Just as the latest 50-megapixel bodies closed the gap between DSLRs and bulkier and pricier medium format cameras, a 100 MP EOS R camera would begin to touch the latest high-megapixel Hasselblad and Phase One resolution limit.

Of course, Phase One recently released the 150 MP IQ4 system, and Hasselblad can't be far behind. Add to this that the 100 MP EOS R isn't rumored to be released until at least 2020 and the fact that you're still talking less surface area on that chip, and it's clear Hasselblad and Phase One will still have the edge for a long time (although they will soon be joined by Fujifilm with its own 100 MP medium format option coming mid-2019). But to have in-body image stabilization would be a huge win for high-megapixel lovers, as those pixels need to be protected as much as possible from any kind of camera shake. Not to mention, you'd get all the other features that come with a smaller mirrorless body, including everything from portability to a bit more than just a single focus point.

I am very ready for this. Are you?

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If Canon can implement a higher resolution and better colour accuracy mode by implemening pixel shift by moving the sensor via the IBIS like Panasonic's new cameras, the medium format manufacturers will likely be worried.

david shepherd's picture

That sounds good in theory, but it will not happen. If pro's want better color, MF is the way to go. The Pixel Shift method doesn't work without a tripod and the 35mm bodies are for speed. Medium Format manufacturers are not scared of 35mm at same resolution because there is no comparison in the image quality. The real disruption is Fujifilm making the bodies less expensive. Phase One making a deal with Fujifilm to support their MF files was a huge red flag.

Michael Jin's picture

Medium format manufacturers are not scared because the public perception of medium format comes from the film days where you had 6x7 negatives. Modern medium format sensors are barely larger than full frame.

Also, I've seen Foveon sensors produce better colors out of camera than most medium format systems and those are even smaller than full frame. Color rendition is a function of sensor technology, not sensor size.

In the end, a whether its a CCD, X-Trans, or Bayer, the medium format variants will behave just like the smaller ones except with the benefit of larger pixels.

Spy Black's picture

"....I've seen Foveon sensors produce better colors out of camera than most medium format systems..."

Too bad the luminosity values are total shit.

"Color rendition is a function of sensor technology, not sensor size."

Color rendition is a function of the sensor/processor, but yes, not of sensor size. The color rendition of my M4/3 Olympus blows the doors off any Canon or Sony camera, never compared it to a MF camera tho.

Michael Jin's picture

Yeah... the crap thing about Foveon sensors is that you really need a controlled environment or at very least tons of light to get the most out of them. :(

Sacha Martin's picture

"The Pixel Shift method doesn't work without a tripod"
No, it seems Olympus has found a way to make this work handheld.

I currently own a 5dIV and a 70D. And a bunch of L lenses and Sigma Art lenses. All together about 20k USD in Camera Gear for Canon, and thats not my main-job. I wont switch brand soon, but I couldnt justify to myself to buy the EOS R. I wanted to want this camera. But having a 5dIV, it didn't make sense to add this body.

A 100mp with IBIS, lets say around the 3,5k USD, I would be on board. It's not for low light or family-weekend-trips, that's for sure. But it would be a "nice-to-have"...

Good investment for a hobby or part time. My GAS syndrome finally got me into xt3 + gfx 50s combo.

I believe I am done with investing in camera, let's see.

Yep, GAS is a real problem. I can't figure out if I want to try the MP-e 65mm macro lens. And I don't rent lenses xD

xt3/GFX50s combo sounds very very nice indeed...:)

But what do they say? If I ever die my worst fear is that my wife sells my gear for the price I told her I paid...

Grant Beachy's picture

I know there's always one annoying guy who says "two card slots" but for the love of god. Just make one camera that hits all the areas for a regular working pro who doesn't need huge files, but does need a kickass, versatile, tough camera in a small package. Just take the eos R, add IBIS, a card slot, eye focus, and video without an insane crop. These are possible things. Literally none of my clients want larger files. I don't even care about dynamic range with the current sensor. Just features that actually address the things that event, portrait, and wedding clients need.

Grant Beachy's picture

I own two. I'd love to see something like that with the advantages of mirrorless.

A real “working pro” understands that modern SD cards have a failure rate that is so miniscule that’s it’s ridiculous and would care a lot more about things like IQ and dynamic range and all the other things that actually make a difference than they would about an issue that’s been manufactured by youtubers and people who need to have something to be outraged about on social media. Few have done more to perpetuate this artificial controversy than Fstoppers.

The UGLY truth is that even if Canon dropped a 100mp with IBIS, dual cards, full 4K with no cropping, flawless eye tracking, etc. etc. etc. There would be something that would be put up as the “critical flaw!!” that they could hyper focus on and have something to post about to keep their hit counts up.

You know, like dual card slots.

Michael Jin's picture

A real working pro would be paranoid about being sued or having their reputation irreparably tarnished over something so stupid as losing images to memory card corruption.

Shame! Disrepute! Ignominy! Financial RUIN!

Oh... the DRAMA.

I guess there was no professional photography in the days of FILM. Or before there was DLSRs with two slots. Which was relatively recently.

The list of technical difficulties that can hurt a professional photographer is long, and horrifying and a real pro is better served focusing on what’s actually meaningful.

If two card slots help you think you’re a pro... knock yourself out.

While you’re focusing on a non-issue, soccer parents with 6D’s will be stealing your gigs and diluting the market even more.

Michael Jin's picture

Back then you had no choice. Today you do. You'd be an idiot not to take advantage of the benefits that technology has afforded you.

People also shot sports with manual focus lenses a long time ago, too. Do you think any professional sports photographer should be using a manual focus lens to photograph an NFL game today?

Get real. 2 slots is about goingthre extra step to try to make sure that the images of a moment that you can't recreate are secure. It's about having respect for your craft and respect for your clients that you're doing the best you can to deliver what you promised. Any system can fail. We do our best to mitigate risk because the images that we take are important to the people we work for.

So keep being arrogant and flippant about it because you'd rather have the latest new toy rather than do what's best for the people who are paying you.

Adam Ottke's picture

Honestly, if people weren't so sue-happy today, I'd agree with you. And no, it's not and shouldn't be that much of an issue. But in the film days, people weren't suing everyone back and forth. A missed cake cutting shot because something happened to that roll of film during processing wouldn't cause a lightbulb to go off in the bride's head saying, "Ooo, ooo, opportunity! I can get a whole new wedding paid for to reshoot this scene for $30,000 if I sue and become really upset!" And it's not always that calculated. Some people actually are THAT upset. So I understand photographers' concerns with liability. Honestly, I think the answer should be internal storage that's reasonable (64/128 GB) and super fast along with a single card slot. Boom. That should be doable in tight spaces and would solve the problem for everyone. And a bunch of people wouldn't even need a card, then.

Grant Beachy's picture

The risk of my house catching on fire is miniscule, but I still carry insurance. Two card slots are completely within the range of technology, and since I shoot events that can never be duplicated, it's not far from malpractice to shoot on one card if I have the option.
EOS R has great IQ, and good enough DR if you shoot tight, which can be done. I'm just asking for a few obvious additions.

Grant Beachy's picture

Just quickly: there are other reasons for having your files duplicated. You can keep a copy on your person and one in a bag, so theft or fire has less chance of taking images that haven't been backed up. If I'm on the road, I don't always have a quick backup option, and this is peace of mind. Corruption is one of many ways you can lose files.

Laughing Cow's picture

In Mpixels the M is for Marketing, right?

Blake Aghili's picture

Meh! It will be 100 mega pixels of cramped pixels on a 35mm sensor size.
In love with Fuji GFX :) I can't even withstand the image quality of my 45MP Nikon-D850 for tight beauty shoots now that I have the Fuji medium format ... it is MUCH better ... number says ok 5 mp more but noooo, it is the sensor size

I see a future Silver Award at DPR.

Snarkiness aside, I would love for Canon to do anything groundbreaking. It's been over 10 years since the 5D2 which blew the industry away, and since then everything has been incremental or just-not-quite-as-good as other offerings out there. So I'm intrigued, and hopeful.

Do it.... Do it

The 50 mp canon eos is ok for studio work but a poor performer in the real world due to lack of dynamic range. I would be very surprised if canon have come such a long way in a short period of time to double the mp and yet improve dynamic range. If not then there is no real benifit to a high mp sensor in a small body with IBIS thats gonna be sitting on a tripod in a studio .

Sacha Martin's picture

Two things:
1. Fujifilm has already announced that its 2019 100 MP GFX camera will have IBIS, surprised Fstoppers writers are not aware.
2. Canon's 100 MP is likely on a smaller full frame sized sensor, so it means the dynamic range and noise performance will be lower than the current Canon full frame cameras. And logically the Fujifilm GFX100 will have better noise performance and Dynamic range, since it is a larger sensor. (And lenses designed for 100 MP)

Adam Ottke's picture

The GFX sensor will certainly be nicer. But everyone keeps pointing out the GFX as the same thing as this, but better. I agree that it's amazing and should create some incredible images. But it's a BIG body. Still makes a difference. And no doubt the EOS R AF system combined with physically smaller/lighter lenses should mean a lot for focus performance (which is always an IQ consideration). Just saying, there's still something to be said for a better-featured, smaller body with ultra-high-resolution like this if they can pull it off. Two different beasts.

art meripol's picture

It's the one I'm waiting for. Love my 5Ds. For what I shoot speed/fps isn't the need. Resolution and detail to handle any size of commercial need a big plus. Being able to keep using all my Canon glass at 100Mb on all that a mirrorless system offers? Sure!

David Laymon's picture

Dual SD card slots?

and lens diffraction ?!!!

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