Rumor: 100MP Canon EOS R With IBIS on the Horizon

Rumor: 100MP Canon EOS R With IBIS on the Horizon

A 100 MP Canon mirrorless body with IBIS would be the first stabilized sensor of this kind of resolution in a standard-sized body. If true, it could rewrite the playbook on ultra-high-megapixel cameras and could pose a serious problem for the medium format industry.

Canon Rumors reported a note from Northlight Images about the possibility of an extraordinarily high-resolution mirrorless EOS R body from Canon. Just as the latest 50-megapixel bodies closed the gap between DSLRs and bulkier and pricier medium format cameras, a 100 MP EOS R camera would begin to touch the latest high-megapixel Hasselblad and Phase One resolution limit.

Of course, Phase One recently released the 150 MP IQ4 system, and Hasselblad can't be far behind. Add to this that the 100 MP EOS R isn't rumored to be released until at least 2020 and the fact that you're still talking less surface area on that chip, and it's clear Hasselblad and Phase One will still have the edge for a long time (although they will soon be joined by Fujifilm with its own 100 MP medium format option coming mid-2019). But to have in-body image stabilization would be a huge win for high-megapixel lovers, as those pixels need to be protected as much as possible from any kind of camera shake. Not to mention, you'd get all the other features that come with a smaller mirrorless body, including everything from portability to a bit more than just a single focus point.

I am very ready for this. Are you?

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Ian Meyers's picture

definitely intrigued

michaeljin's picture

Interesting.

100mp, ibis, tilty flippy screen....1080p @ 60fps, no 4k over hdmi

Interested, hopefully they announce specs and release date next month at CP+. I’m looking to upgrade from the 5dsr but looking for more than just more megapixels. I’m ok with 50, wouldn’t say no to more but would like a couple more fps, two CFast cards and good AF-C with silent burst shooting mode. Is that to much to ask for?

Adam Ottke's picture

Ha. Probably is a bit much to ask for ;-) Of course, I imagine they'll have lower fps for 100 MP. But that's the other thing...I don't know why it's so technically impossible to add 50% resolution image capture at a higher frame rate for these things. I understand the camera still has to grab those pixels and dump a bunch of them at a faster rate, but you'd think it could do a short burst if they just had a killer, super fast buffer in there, which more of these cameras need to have anyway these days. Would be nice to have 100 MP at 3-5 fps, 50 MP at 5-7 fps, and 25 MP at 10+fps all in one body. I'd pay good money for that if it had good AF to go along with it.

david shepherd's picture

I would rather have more dynamic range on these sensors than megapixels. If the camera sensor was able to see more detail with less light, I would be very happy with that on the 35mm level. Shot a wedding a couple weeks ago and the low light situation exposed that my D800 is long in the tooth for what's available today. That got me thinking about getting a D850 for my outfit, but I love what the D750 sensor. With that said, The only reason to invest in more megapixels these days is for uncompromised detail and only the D850 is in the conversation with Medium Format, but it still is not close. The D850 only has speed on its side otherwise, modern MF bodies make any FF 35mm image obsolete.

Adam Ottke's picture

I love the D750, too. But the D850 is hands-down the best camera of its kind on the market today (for stills). Will still beat the D750 in DR and general low-light capabilities, especially when you factor in the increased resolution. They've done a lot in these few years. But yes, the D800 is getting a bit old. The D810 was what the D800 always should have been. And now with the D850, they've really knocked it out of the park. Wondering if Canon can step it up to the next level if this all actually comes true.

david shepherd's picture

Canon files look great too, but not as flexible as Nikon's. Canon would have to update their sensors but I think that Loyal Canon Users do not want that because they love the Canon look.

The D850 is amazing! I'm not sure how much latitude the files have, but the D750 as at least two EV in capture one. I am going to rent it eventually and find out for myself.

What size prints are people planning to make??

david shepherd's picture

2mb Instagram post

I do 20x30 metal prints all the time and want as much detail as I can get. I also have a spot on my wall for a 48x60 whenever I get the right shot.

William Howell's picture

Hey I love metal prints, I get mine done at Mpix, how about you, where do you get your prints?
And I get prints at Bumblejax.com, they are in acrylic, half inch thick.

michaeljin's picture

Endless cropping. Who needs a super telephoto when you have 100mp?😁

david shepherd's picture

While the High-Resolution sensors are great to have for 35mm cameras, they will never match the quality of Medium Format sensors. Honestly, 50mp-75mp is about where I would cap the pixels for FF cameras because you only gain image size after 50mp. I will say that aside from a new sensor technical development, we have seen the best that 35mm currently has to offer in the megapixels race.

michaeljin's picture

And you say this as an engineer who is developing sensors?

david shepherd's picture

I say this as a print professional and commercial photographer at an agency that sees images every day. The difference between Medium Format files and 35mm files are night and day.

michaeljin's picture

Right. So you DON'T actually know what you're talking about in regard to the ceiling on sensor capabilities.

Adam Ottke's picture

Regardless, there are physics limitations with these sensors when they get so tightly packed with pixels. And it is true that a 100 MP 35mm sensor will have issues with diffraction at quite a low aperture. I can probably look up what it'd be, but this is certainly a legitimate concern. I'm sure there's a way to do it where it's still beneficial and amazing, but I can guarantee Canon's engineers (and everyone else's) are thinking about how to mitigate all that...

michaeljin's picture

Of course there will always be physical limitations. Whether we are close to that point or not is something only engineers working in the field would probably know.

Regardless, I don't subscribe to this belief that Medium Format is somehow fundamentally different. It's just the same exact technology used in Full Frame sensors scaled up to a larger size. The benefit from Medium Format comes from the larger surface area of the sensor and subsequently less scaling required to hit whatever print size you're looking to print, not from some MF voodoo that results in better color fidelity or some other nonsense.

Adam Ottke's picture

Sure, but it's hardly voodoo. Higher pixel count allows for greater scaling capabilities. Larger photo sites thanks to dividing the same number of pixels over a wider surface area allows for greater light sensitivity, DR, color, etc. And then there are physical limitations that make MF sensors sharper at certain apertures thanks to physics. And if you can have images at narrower apertures (and therefore greater depth of field) without effects of diffraction visibly kicking in, then you can have more of your image be sharp. So there are concrete benefits. But yes, no doubt these engineers have ways to improve these smaller sensors to be better and better. Still, physics will always play a role; and there won't ever be any voodoo to overcome that ;-)

Alex Cooke's picture

That’ll be one low DLA.

charlie sanders's picture

16 bit color and dual card slots are on my Santa’s list. Higher mp hides luminosity masks when printed or even seen on screens. I’m looking forward to higher mp if only for that one reason.

I don’t Know about 100MP but it sure would awesome to see Canon rise to the top again. The company has survived Since 1940 and lost focus (pun intended) but it sounds like they are ready to get back in the game

JetCity Ninja's picture

one line in and already wrong. Fujifilm long since announced a 100mp GFX100 with IBIS for release and sale early this year. it was previewed at Photokina.

Ken Savage's picture

and 2+ years into a line of MF lenses.

Adam Ottke's picture

I left out the part adding the important note, "in a standard-size body." Thanks for the reminder! But yes, looking forward to the Fuji, too. Should be interesting. But overall, hypothetically better and faster AF, better lens selection (eventually), etc., might make the Canon a more interesting proposition. It's all quite early to say, though (and of course, the bigger sensor will always have its advantages).

Nobody knows if this Canon camera will have a "standard size" body. GFX 100S is already announced with IBIS in a DSLR sized body including battery grip. Also all 7 Fuji GF lenses are designed to bring 100Mpx to the sensor. I don't think Canon have that much 100Mpx capable lenses at the moment.

100 MP is supposedly going to make headlines but any benefit to our erveryday photography is unlikely. Futhermore it will not overcome geometrical limitations of optics and sensor size as you correctly stated.

Basically remindes me of that 4K/8K vglogging camera hype to create footage that is watched with 480p.

Am I the only person who misses Canon's older method for AF focus selection? They used to use rotary dials for AF point selection which is way faster than the 4 way buttons they are using on the EOS R camera.

Huh?

The R leverages the LCD screen for AF Point selection when it detects your eye on the EVF. It’s one of the Rs great features. You drag your thumb and the AF point slides with it.

Have you actually ever used one?

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