Disappointment After Disappointment — What Is Wrong With Canon?

Disappointment After Disappointment — What Is Wrong With Canon?

Back in 2008 the Canon 5D Mark II was a photographer’s dream. The camera revolutionized the industry and opened new creative horizons for many professionals. The low light performance, dynamic range, and image quality were unheard of. This technological wonder was a huge hit in the photography world and beyond, especially in the indie filmmaker community. Later in 2012 came the 5D Mark III, with a solid body but somehow conservative specifications. Since then, it seems that Canon has decided to freeze progress, and lately, take a few steps backward.

Before going any further, I’d like to emphasize that I have been a long-time Canon user since the 90s. I own several Canon cameras and an extensive collection of EF lenses. I don’t mean to trash Canon for no reason, but truth be told, I’ve found the 5D Mark IV and 6D Mark II to be huge disappointments.

The Problem

Ever since the launch of the 5D Mark II, Canon has been extremely conservative in every aspect of its products. The only exceptions being the great Dual Pixel Autofocus technology (DPAF) and the high resolution Canon 5Ds body. However, the DPAF is a video feature designed to be used in live view mode, not for stills photography. Unfortunately, the video modes on Canon DSLRs are so crippled that there is no point on giving us a nice autofocus system if everything else fails.

Like many of my fellow photographers, I was eagerly waiting for the 5D Mark IV and Canon 6D Mark II to update my camera’s body.

Finally, the long-awaited 5D Mark IV came in August 2016 but the dynamic range at base ISO was only matching the entry-level crop-sensor camera from 2011 and lagging far behind its direct competitor. A little bit embarrassing for new a $3,500 flagship camera. The rest of the features were nice but nothing that could justify the upgrade from the Mark III, at least in my case.

The dynamic range of the Canon 5D Mark IV only matches the Nikon D5100 crop sensor from 2011. Source: DxOMark.

At this point, many photographers were expecting miracles for the 6D Mark II, but the first reviews of this new camera show a worrisome trend. Not only are the specifications underwhelming but the image quality is not even matching that of the previous version. The test results from camera tester William J. Claff of Photons to Photos shows that the dynamic range of the 6D Mark II is slightly worse than the Mark I at low ISO, and significantly lower than the Canon 80D crop-sensor camera.

According to William J. Claff measurements, the Canon 6D Mark II dynamic range at base ISO falls behind the original 6D and 80D

DPReview confirmed these results and revealed that “almost as soon as you start to push the image or pull detail out of the shadows, you risk hitting the camera's electronic noise floor and hence you won't see the advantage over the smaller sensor 80D that you might reasonably expect.” Continuing, “The EOS 6D II should have a 1.3EV image quality advantage over the 80D, when the images are compared at the same size, since its sensor is so much bigger. Despite this, the EOS 80D's images shot with the same exposures look cleaner, when brightened to the same degree.”

Video Wreck

On the video side, the situation is even worse. After creating the DSLR video revolution back in 2008 with the 5D Mark II, Canon constantly crippled its DSLR. Basic video features like peaking and zebra never made it to any DSLR of the brand. The 60fps mode was sadly missing on the 5D Mark III. Was it a hardware limitation? Absolutely not, the Magic Lantern team demonstrated that the Mark III was capable of 1080/60 in raw recording and gave us all the video assist features via their firmware hack.

Another issue that consistently plagues Canon bodies is the image softness and moire. Video Specialist Andrew Reid from EOSHD noted about the Canon 100D/SL1 magic lantern hack: “Forgive the conspiracy theory, but I thought moire was a result of pixel binning on the sensor itself. But now we have unfiltered direct access to the sensor output in video mode with raw, it seems the sensor isn’t so much to blame as Canon’s image processor. In the stock Canon video mode it is as if the sensor is doing a nice output, but the processor is resampling the image to purposefully hobble it with moire and soft detail.”

But as if holding features and crippling image quality were not enough, Canon decided to take a step backwards with the new 6D Mark II. The video All-I mode has been removed, leaving us with lower video bitrate compared to original 6D.

When it comes to 4K, the new 6D skipped it entirely. Sure, the 5D Mark IV has 4K, but with a 1.74x crop and completely huge and inefficient 500 Mbps MJPEG codec from the 90s, the 4K mode is just unusable.

Want to film in 4K at 24mm equivalent? You’ll have to attach a 14mm lens to your camera. And by the way, be ready to buy a substantial amount of memory cards because at this rate, a 128 GB card will be full after only 30 minutes of recording. I hope you like to transcode. But for real, the Dual Pixel Autofocus is great.

Perhaps remorse struck Canon a few month later when it decided to issue an update to enable the LOG mode on the 5D Mark IV. However, LOG is not available at this time on the top-of-the-line Canon 1Dx Mark II. I’m sure that loyal Canon customers will appreciate being left behind after spending $6,000 on this professional body while cheaper versions are being upgraded.

“Why don’t you buy a damn video camera?”; “DSLR are not made for video.”; These are usually the kinds of comments we get when we dare asking for decent video features on Canon professional cameras in 2017. Let me answer: No, I do not want to buy a damn video camera. The reason is not due to the hefty price tag, but due to portability and versatility. Even if the C200 was available at $900, I would not buy it. Video cameras are big and bulky, and I cannot afford to carry a C100 Mark II that weighs twice as much as my current 5D. As a run-and-gun shooter I want to take photos and videos and be able to switch conveniently between the two. Another point is that professional cameras are fitted with S35 sensor giving a 1.5x crop factor. But I like to maintain the full frame look and non-cropped focal range of my DSLR.

By the way, DSLR can and has been used for video for years now, even in Hollywood movies. We are not asking for extravagant video features in DSLR. Built-in ND filters, XLR connectors, ultra-high frame rate, and uncompressed output are reserved for professional cameras and we know it. What we want is decent video specifications contemporary of the era with reasonable image quality. If the 5D came without 4K crop, clean 8-bit video, and codec from this decade I would have bought two already.

Market Segmentation

The reason behind Canon’s choices is called market segmentation, which is the art of distilling camera specifications among the product range in order to force customers to purchase the different versions. You want 4K video? Then you’ll have to buy the $6,000 EOS C200 camera. Want high resolution? Get the 5Ds. Swivel screen on a full-frame camera? Get the 6D Mark II. LOG mode? You’ll have to drop the 1Dx Mark II and buy the 5D IV.

The folks at Canon think they can get away with this because their loyal customers are being held hostage by their EF lens collection. Switching brands is not easy when you have invested thousands of dollars over the years to build a nice assortment of lenses.

But the breaking point is coming. For the reasons explained previously, I need a small video camera. One than can fit in a portable gimbal and does not weigh a ton with cables and handles coming out from everywhere. I got the Panasonic GH5 with a few lenses. Close to $3,500 lost for Canon thanks to its nonsense market segmentation strategy. Dear Canon, people are not buying products they do not need; they’ll just stop buying from you, especially if the competition is offering alternatives. This brings me to my next question: Is Canon too big to fail?

Too Big to Fail?

Back in 2013 at the CES show in Las Vegas, most people were filming the event using a Canon 5D Mark II or III camera. A few editions later, these bodies almost disappeared from the alleys, replaced by Sony or Micro 4/3 cameras.

However, impressions can be deceiving. At the moment, Canon remains the leader of the digital camera industry. Far ahead of Nikon and Sony, with the lion’s share of the market. Facts must be stated and the vast majority of photographers are only taking pictures.

Various estimates show that the DSLR video crowd only represents 5–10 percent of the market. But is the camera business doing so well that Canon can ignore this minority of users? The latest CIPA report shows that the shipment of digital cameras have been free-falling over the last 10 years, eaten up by the smartphones even though the interchangeable lens camera market shows some signs of resistance.

But video aside, the photo features of the new 6D are not encouraging: stagnation or decrease of the image quality, lack of dual memory card slots, and concentration of the AF point to the center. This is not appealing for potential buyers. Sure, the 5D Mark IV shows some sign of progress on the dynamic range front but still lags behind three years old entry-level crop-sensor cameras from the Nikon.

Unfortunately for Canon, the competition has been extremely active lately with Sony’s massive level of innovation (albeit not always functional) and fast release cycle. Fujifilm cameras are also delivering impressive image quality with the X series, while the Micro 4/3 consortium is uniting many manufacturers under the same hardware standards. Even Pentax is hunting in the full frame market territory.

In this context, Nikon had to celebrate its 100-year anniversary with humiliating news. Canon’s traditional competitor is facing important financial losses and is seeking help from Fuji at the demand of the Japanese government, which wants to prevent the yellow company to fall under Chinese or Korean control. Canon is not there yet, but Nikon has been overtaken by Sony for the first time in history early this year. Sony now finds itself in the number two market position for full-frame interchangeable lens cameras in the U.S., ahead of Nikon and behind only Canon.

Personally, I’m afraid that Canon may face a similar fate if the company refuses to respond to the fierce competition in a stagnant market. Falls can be quick; The drone maker DJI was founded a little over 10 years ago by a Chinese student, yet it became the main civilian drone manufacturer and joined the Micro 4/3 consortium. DJI has hurt GoPro’s business and entered into the photo market with the Osmo camera. The Shenzhen-based company recently acquired Hasselblad, another legendary name in the industry, and who knows what they are going to do next. What if DJI decides to tackle the photography market head on? History shows that DJI will not hold the specs.

Another reason of concern is the lens business, a traditional stream of revenue for Canon. Again, more and more Chinese and Korean companies are stepping in Canon’s turf with aggressive commercial strategies. Rokinon for instance is now making autofocus lenses. In Japan, Sigma has seen success for its Art series lenses, which cost up to 40 percent less than the native Canon equivalent.

Conclusion

Every day, more and more photographers are jumping ship to the likes of Sony, Fujifilm, Pentax, or Nikon. Yet, Canon remains the leader in terms of market share thanks to its captive customer base. Some will call them “Canon fan boys” but the truth is that dynamic range is not everything, and Canon products are extremely solid performers. Lovely colors, legendary reliability, perfect ergonomics, and flawless customer service is what professionals need and Canon knows it. No need to be condescending with Canon users. They are not dumb.

At this point, what are the alternatives? If I do not opt for Canon, who else produces full-frame cameras with cutting-edge technology, decent video performance, and a solid selection of lenses?

Sony would be an obvious contender, yet the overall reliability, battery life, and color science is preventing me to switch. Sony lenses are extremely expensive but things should change soon with Sigma jumping in the FE mount wagon (another sign that Sony’s market share is growing). The new Sony a9 also showed some signs in the right direction in terms of battery life and ergonomics.

Nikon cameras have the best dynamic range, their lens selection is on par with Canon, but this brand also lags behind in terms of video features and is somehow as conservative as Canon. I don’t expect any radical changes from Nikon with the D810 successor that will be announced soon. However, Nikon recently shared its ambition to take the mirrorless market seriously and delivering the ultimate camera. Time will tell, but with their current financial situation the future of the company is at risk. There might not be another opportunity to impress.

Then, the Micro 4/3 segment is extremely dynamic thanks to Olympus and Panasonic. As I mentioned earlier, I bought a GH5 to cover my video needs after the 5D Mark IV disappointment in this area. By the way, Panasonic proves that a company can propose ground-breaking DSLR-like cameras but still offer professional video cameras at the same time. Take note Canon.

Unfortunately, I find the Micro 4/3 sensor a bit too limited in terms of high ISO performance and dynamic range. Hence, the GH5 will not completely replace my Canon camera for photography.

Finally, I have no other option left than to wait. Canon does not want to deliver and the alternatives are not completely satisfying. Canon is its own enemy. I’m still satisfied with my current 6D and 5D Mark III. They serve me well so unless an upgrade opens new creative options or facilitates my workload, why should I spend another $2,000 or $3,500 to get a slightly improved version of my actual camera?

Therefore, I’ve stopped investing in my EF system completely. I am keeping an eye on the future Sony a7R III and a7S III cameras. If Sony puts itself together and fixes its well-known issues, I may make the switch once and for all.

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Make your own camera profile. Then any Nikon can have "Canon colors."

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm no expert on the matter), but isn't that the whole purpose of owning a color passport? To create a camera color profile, that guarantees accurate color for a particular situation?

Matt, I'm pretty sure Mike's posts are satire. Just say his name out loud.

Careful, that's stooping very low :)

some one is joking and you take it so seriously you start judging people by camera brand? I don't even know how to get lower

Nikon………….

And probably spell right. Yup, I went there. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But yeah, real pros use Canon because their companies supply them with Canons. Again, Canon has better marketing. No real reason (except recently) that Nikon should be so far behind. They have their own professional services and decades of lenses, as well. Beyond sensor performance, both brands are relatively neck and neck in performance/feature specs.

Good evening..I rushed to sign up using my real name..so nothing to hide...I really enjoyed reading the article about lenses and skin tones...I kept all my old prime lenses Contax Nikon and Tamron..never owned a Canon tho...and adapted them on my Olympus Epl6 MFT..best of both worlds...but I do want to chime in ..the winner will go to the camera with best OlEd or EVF..currently Sony..zI was able to pair an AIR to an OlEd..currently the brightest screen ...on any camera ..about 8 months..viewfinder was 80$..another use for a cell phone...skin tones. Not sure what that's about....never had a problem with my skin tones...see who supplies the chip..for the camera

For better or for worse, Canon-Japan (not the regional subsidiaries, but the place where these decisions are made: Japan) is an extremely Japan-centric and Japan-traditional company. Their offerings are, basically, designed for the Japanese market. They only barely listen to anyone else--the subsidiaries are given what Canon-Japan produces for Japan and have to make it sound like it's good for everyone.

That's why the Kiss--explicitly "designed for women" in Japan according to a former Canon-Japan CEO--was renamed "Rebel" for the US market.

The 1-Series is Canon-Japan's camera for still camera professionals, and in their minds still camera professionals should only be using the 1-Series, and nobody else should. They said the 5D was designed "to woo 'enthusiasts' from film," and in their minds, the 5D series, 7D series, 6D series, and the xxD series are all for advanced amateurs, not professionals.

And their cine cameras are for cine. Period. That's the way they're thinking.

Raw data files from the Whitehouse...or missing information in transition to .jpg...too funny...topical missing information...too funny ..had to give a smile to this thread

I've been a Canon guy now for some time. I see the lackluster upgrades and I'm not happy about that. However, I have a complete solid reliable system. In addition to the lenses, there is the wireless speedlights. I converted to speedlights for portability years ago and haven't looked back. Sony and Fuji make me take serious looks. I love what comes out of these cameras. It still comes down to the complete system for me. Yes I've seen Godox. In my FB feed I also see a lot of problems and inconsistent day in day out reliability with Godox. Regarding lenses, I rely on the IS feature. I'm not sure about the heavier Sigma Art lenses and IS. I've been burned before with too much promise and not enough delivery. So for now I'm going to stick with the devil I know.

Nikon is equally guilty. Jumped to Sony months ago and am quite happy. Was a Nikon user for 17 years.

I couldn't agree more. I have about $15,000 in Canon glass. I jumped on the 5d MK II, when it first came out and was thrilled. I was a bit more restrained in upgrading to the 5D MK III; but shelled out the $$ for it. I've found Magic Lantern to be a saving grace in what I perceive as intentionall crippled firmware. When I examined the specs of the 5D MK IV and considered its price, I chose to stick with my MK III, for now. With various lens mount converters, I've considered trying out a Sony Alpha body; but don't feel that I can jusify the high price, until Sony works out some of the known kinks, especially battery life.

Canon really needs to rethink this trickle, trickle strategy of improvements. Nokia once thought that they owned the cell phone market; then came along a computer company and search engine giant that had never made a single phone. A few years later, Nokia is struggling to stay alive; while iPhones and Android dominate. In today's world, you must innovate or die. Canon seems to be ignorant of this axiom. I wish someone, near the top, would come to terms with this reality. I've spent plenty on Canon products and was once enthusiastic about doing so to take advantage of the great technology. I'd love for that feeling of awe over photography innovation to return; without having to adjust to a completely different brands user inerface and giving up on countless accessories I have that are Canon body exclusive. (JMHO)

I stand by my viewpoint that the success of the video mode on the 5D2 was a complete fluke. Every point and shoot camera back in the day had video mode, but it was crappy and nobody ever used it. Canon probably realized they could do it with the mk2 when they introduced Live View, and during development, Nikon didn't have any DSLR video modes either (they beat Canon to the punch by less than a month in 2008), so they probably viewed "full HD video" as just another bullet point on the box, as "HD video" was big marketing back then.

Since then, they've given the market a few scraps, but since they had larger, more expensive, professional video cameras, they still didn't consider the market to be anything they really needed to pay attention to. The 5D3 was good at video too, but nothing revolutionary. Then they saw the HDSLR boom and introduced the C-series. Yes they've been adopted by film crews all over, but every single one of them complains about it. I personally dislike a lot about the C300 and it's brothers. It's more proof that Canon has absolutely no clue what people actually do with their cameras.

Again, this is just what I'm guessing, but I've been working with Canon cameras for the several years, work as a camera assistant on TV shows and commercials, and have watched them get passed by by competitor after competitor. They're no longer the old standard, middle-of-the-road workhorse, their new stuff is just old news for video work.

Canon just dropped the ball, as simple as that.
They got lazy with their good reputation and sooner or later they will pay the price for being lazy and offering the worst cameras on the market.

Actually, I think photographers (or hobbyists) are the ones getting lazy by wanting cameras that will do everything for them.

All "pro's" what? Assistants?

And I'm sure people shooting Pentax 645Zs for engagement photos get paid a grip.

I agree with all you've said. However I couldn't help but notice that while you crave a full frame look for your videos against the 5D IV's 1.74x crop, yet you purchased a Panasonic GH5 for video, which has a higher 2x crop.

I myself am looking to buy a camera for video purposes, and I was wondering why did you not choose the Sony A7Sii instead of the Panasonic? Would that not have been a better fit for your sensor size needs, and considering you already own many Canon EF lenses? What tipped you towards buying the GH5 with all new set of lenses instead?

I'm guessing features. While current Sonys do have many features inherited from the FS line, the GH5 is about as well balanced a hybrid photo/video camera as you'll ever find.

Remember that there are Speed Boosters and AF adapters for EF lenses, too, to get closer to a FF appearance. New lenses aren't necessary, especially with the poor video AF.

mf43 lenses come with a certain ff focal length in mind. so the will sell you a 35-100mm f1.8 or so to give you a feeling like a 70-200. so if there are lenses for all focal ranges you would want

I think the author overreacts a bit here. Although I agree regarding the lackluster update of the 6dii, I don't agree in many other aspects. Furthermore, I don't know whether I can take an article like this seriously, too, regarding comments like the following:
"Finally, the long-awaited 5D Mark IV came in August 2016 but the dynamic range was only matching the entry-level crop-sensor camera from 2011 and lagging far behind its direct competitor. A little bit embarrassing for new a $3,500 flagship camera. ".
I attached a comparison of Bill Claffs DR measurements for your enlightenment comparing the 5div to the new Sony flagship A9 and your entry level D5100 (since you cite B. Claffs data, I think this appropriate). Are you seriously taking the arbitrary single number Dxo provides to compare cameras? Using a single number to judge a sensor metric like DR, depending read noise which changes with gain, for example, is something beginners fall for. In my opinion this is nonsense. Sony's A9 has 13.3ev according to this metric (vs. Canon's 13.6). So is the A9 sensor rubbish? The 5div is an excellent camera and much better than many people make it. DPAF works amazingly well, combined with touch it allows for a super quick workflow at weddings, for example. Using the 5div alongside the A7rii professionally at weddings, I can only say positives about the 5div, which is on par in IQ in real life and much better in many other aspects (responsiveness, initial AF acquisition, flash use, ergonomics (our preference), faster focussing even in LV, sensitivity to -4ev everywhere when using DPAF). The Sony A9 is now the first MILC in my opinion to level the playing field and even raise the bar in many aspects, which is why we replace the A7rii with it now.

The Sony A9 was a step backwards in terms of DR for Sony. Their object was pure speed.

Again, in my opinion, if you're shooting weddings (or similar subjects like events, location portraits, families, journalism), the Canon system is still the best bet by a long shot. If you're shooting static subjects like architecture, products, landscapes, studio portraits, food - the Sony A7RII is king.

Agree, for static things only the A7rii is excellent.

Oh STOP crying already! If everyone is soooo happy with the other OEM's, then sell you Canon gear and jump ship, but shut up already! People want every feature imaginable in every camera and want it for $500. Hey, here's an idea, go create it and make untold billions and put Canon and Nikon out of business. :)

The point you're missing is that people would happily change brands, except that they're locked in with a large investment in Canon lenses. Ask yourself why Canon users are complaining. They(myself included) want to love Canon products. They're looking for light in a very dark tunnel, but it feels that Canon keep denying us basic feature requests. The article points out that they're deliberately crippling the product. I would say that the most rational response is to complain.

Like I said, sell your Canon gear and start over. If you bought good glass, you'll get most of your money back. If people can't get good pictures from all of the technology available today, then find another "hobby". Or "the most rational response" would be to stop buying their product, if they are not providing you with a camera that can do everything for you for dirt cheap. I'm not saying they couldn't do better, everyone can, but my point is that people want mid-level cameras to do every trick in the book for them and want it for almost no money. Isn't photography about being creative? If the camera does everything for you, then everyone would be a photographer.

I have the best Canon DSLR that they make - pro level, not mid ranged and it can't do what my mid ranged Sony could do. Of course, you can make excellent photos with any camera, even a box brownie, however, the best tools make the job easier or make you more efficient. For me personally, I long for the efficiency of one camera for both video and still imagery.

F-stoppers did an article on what it costs to change brands, selling up and restarting and it was at least a $5K loss.

Strictly talking about 4k:
As a Canon shooter I say this: what is the surprise? And i dont mean to sound off like a Canon defender... But Canon has always been very protective of their pro grade gear, they have always reserved the best features for their top of the line.

Is it a dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb move? Yup it is, but it isnt surprising, more of the same stuff with Canon.

Besides thanks rumors sites we already knew 4k wasn't going to be available.

So it wasnt a big surprise, again , sadly Canon has been always been like that.

Planned obsolescence. If they give you what they can right now, what will they have to charge you $1200+ for next year?

As a service provider, I've spent years cultivating relationships with clients. We've worked out how to communicate effectively with each other and we work well together.

If I was Canon, I would tell my clients, I now have different service offerings and if they want everything that I can offer, they'll have to hire me for two or three different services, all whilst my competitors offer it in one package. I'm confident though, it's difficult for my clients to build up the same relationship with my competitors, so most will have to suck it up and spend more.

What I don't see is that any new possible clients will weigh up what they can get with other competitors and will go for the best value - not me clearly. My existing clients my stay, but they're not going to be happy.

Bottom line, I won't follow Canon's business model.

Before about 5 years I have bought Canon 5D mk III and it was nice camera. Then I bought Canon 85 1.2L II and looked forward to shoot portraits with it :-) Well, I like to have my focus point on eyes, so I have used border crosstype points, but it was not quite accurate - many photos were slightly off focus. I took my camera and lens to Canon service, tried but, but still the same problem. I wrote to some technical Canon guru, who adviced me not to shoot at such low appertures 1.2-1.8, but rather shoot at f3.2 and higher. Ok, really great advice :-)
Then I sold all Canon stuff and switched to Sony A7R II. For my use (not fast actions) it is great camera, only the white balance and especially skintones and colors were much better on Canon. This I really miss. To make good skintone with my Sony A7R II is really difficult for me - still too much orange/yellow.

Great article, I have two 1dx mark ii's and am not getting rid of them. You say you like the full frame look but then buy a GH5 😂

As a Nikon user, I find this thread very amusing.

Simple with Canon you have to spend more and go for 5D mkiv :) if you can't afford it go for another brand..

Interesting read. Hopefully Canon will take notice and work on some of the flaws.
But when I compare to other brands on the market, I'm still very confident with my Mark IV. At the same time, my needs aren't the same as everyone else. Canon is really missing the market on lens development. I stopped reading your article half ways thru (way long) but I didn't see any mention of glass development.
Maybe I missed it.

When my smartphone does 4K and 120fps but my DSLR does not, I can only come to the realization that after spending $24K with Canon in the last 10 years they don't give a shit about my needs. The only reason I am disappointed is because I have not yet sold all my gear to buy a Sony 6500 and Sigma ART lenses.

And what about the mirrorles medium format? I think there´s going to be a bit of a movement in that sector the next years, with competitive prices like the Fujifilm GFX 50S

I don't think anyone but true professionals (and trophy collectors) would buy MF.

"The low light performance, dynamic range, and image quality were unheard of."
Who is writing this? In the older days Nikon was the one with low light quality and dynamic range, while Canon was pumping MP and had poorer performance.

They have to slow the technology progression or pros will have no reason to purchase the "pro gear" anymore. And, as a pro, I'm totally fine with the weekend warriors having to pay up if they want good gear.

Can we please dispense with this fiction that the Canon 5D MkIII was ever a rival for the Nikon D800. It never came close.

I agree 1000%. Canon seems to want to follow in the footsteps of Kodak. After I bought the 5d mark 1,2 & 3 the 4 looked like an insult. I bought the Nikon D810 and COULD NOT BE MORE HAPPY!!!! And I can't wait to get the D850 next month. See ya canon!!!!

So true that we are captive because of all of the lenses that I've invested in. I'm trying to figure out how I can switch to Nikon but it's not financially feasible. I've been disappointed with Canon for the past few years. https://spencerphotography.net/

Nothing at all wrong with Canon. The fact that it doesn't measure up to some meaningless statistical website isn't the reason people buy, or do not buy, Canon. Or Nikon, or whatever. They buy the cameras to take nice pictures. If they are replacing their current camera they decide whether or not the new one is worth the price. It's pretty simple. Folks buying brand new get shown the current lineup and choose from those.

They don't whine about something as meaningless as DXO scores. People use the cameras and like the pictures. And Canon has made plenty of money delivering what folks want, not what internet "experts" demand.

I switched to Fuji from canon and couldn't be happier, the DR and ISO invariant sensor allows for some real creativity in post with one exposure.

I can't imagine what the sales managers at Canon are saying about Sony's stomp/onslaught into Canon's market share and innovation. I just don't get it. Why Canon is ignoring the wants/needs of its existing users is beyond comprehension to the whole industry. Even Fstoppers is questioning the Canon machine. :-|

Canon HAS to be embarrassed with all the press/blogs/internet stating the obvious... are they ignoring us?

always a bit amused reading articles like this or endless rants targeted at a manufacturer for failing to provide this over that, if you're that disappointed with a brand or if the features lacking genuinely hinders your ability to produce, stop buying their products and switch! i am sure if enough people talked with their wallets instead of ranting on forums that they'll never read canon will actually hear and make the necessary changes

i am first and foremost a serous hobbyist/enthusiast that occasionally pick up paid gigs and is heavily (over 10K) invested in canon gear, i shoot everything from macro to birds to landscapes to astro etc etc being the enthusiast that i am and quite frankly i never felt like the gear is limiting me in any way, if anything it is me that needs to get better an make the most out of my gear, i love the complete solution that canon system offers (be it from OEM or 3rd party options), i love the "canon colour" that everyone likes to talk about, i love the ergonomics of canon cameras and i also love the exemplary customer support that canon offers (which i have had to use on a number of occasions)

do i think canon holds back on purpose on certain specs and features? yes i absolutely do, but they are a business after all and their primary goal is to make their shareholders happy, am i happy that certain features that could (should?) have been added was left out? no of course not, but if it ever gets to the point where it bothers me enough i sure as hell won't write an essay just to rant about it and i'll vote with my wallet, simple, i feel like these days with specs and features people seems to want to equate "less" as "none", you see this all the time especially with dynamic range which frankly while i agree more is always better knowing how much i love shooting landscape it's like one single metric that's so blown over the top, i wonder of those people that always complain how crappy canon is and how much better other brands are have actually hands on extensively used the different systems or are just people sitting in front of a screen reading spec sheets all day

I still agree with the old argument - buy a video camera for shooting video.
Although I despise Canon's minimalist approach when offering new models, I also feel they have the best customer and tech support on the planet. Finding them a company I love to hate - until you need their help. lol

I have a Canon T5i of which the video has now crashed twice. I don't shoot that much video but when I pay $200.00 for a factory refurbish and it lasts fewer than 6 months That's enough!. I have abandoned Canon and gone back to Mamiya RB67 and medium format film.

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