Being a long time Lightroom user has helped me have a well polished workflow for my photography projects. So why should I bother trying Capture One Pro?
My Current Lightroom Workflow
It's like a comfortable old pair of slippers. New ones do not feel right, so you frequently wear the old, stinky ones. Lightroom is the first software I've used for organizing my images and working with my raw files. I've also used it for clients to select their desired images, to tag images with keywords, for exporting, watermarking, and what not. It has shaped my workflow based on its user interface and functionality. I do not wonder if I need the same tools or functionality when I work with a different software. It's natural. Here is a typical photoshoot of mine:
- I tether to Lightroom via a USB cable (will come to this one in details further). Images are stored both on my laptop's hard drive and on the memory card in the camera.
- I shoot a frame with the ColorChecker Passport I'd use for color correction later.
- After the photoshoot the client is allowed to select the images they want to buy. The selection is made using the built-in rating system in Lightroom.
- When I get back to my work desk, I copy the folder with images to a NAS device (a.k.a. backup file server).
- Then I use the ColorChecker Passport image to create a DNG profile which I use to color correct my images. I also use the white balance tool on the same file to set the correct white balance for all images in the session.
- I copy the image settings from the ColorChecker image and paste them on all images from that setup.
- I filter by the highest rated images and start retouching them one by one in Photoshop. When I save them in Photoshop Lightroom automatically stacks the newly created TIFF/PSD file with the original. This way I know this file is completed. I flag it with a "Pick" flag and I'm off to the next image until there are no unflagged highest-rated images left. This way I can't miss a file.
- I export the retouched files for the client and for my portfolio. Those for my portfolio have a watermark. This watermark I configured into the export preset.
With Lightroom I don't bother to work on a catalog that refers to files from the NAS device. The slowdown is only when I open and save the files in Photoshop.
That's it. Lightroom helped me to organize my images, easily filter those that I've already retouched and export the final files for the client. It's a very nice piece of software indeed.
Why Capture One Pro?
Main reason: Tethering. It's what annoys me many times using Lightroom with any client, especially a high profile one. I photograph them and at a certain moment they say, "The images are not changing on the computer screen." The reasons are various: faulty USB cable, or I'v unplugged the USB cable from the camera without noticing, or the camera went to stand by while I'm waiting for the client to change outfit or make up. When this happens Lightroom says it can't detect a camera, so I'm trying different remedies. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Unplugging the USB cable from the computer or camera, the plugging it back in, restarting the tethering session in Lightroom, restarting Lightroom, restarting the camera. I even restarted the laptop several times (and sometimes it worked). When it's not working I simply continue shooting without being tethered. I'm using Lightroom 5, by the way.
painfully patiently worked like that, I've decided to give Capture One Pro a try. I downloaded the latest one (9.3) and tried it for 30 days working on several commercial projects. Here's what I think about it.
Catalogs vs. Sessions vs. Collections
I don't know why it needs to be so fragmented, but Capture One Pro has all those. A catalog is like a group. I have a "Tethered" catalog where I shoot all my tethered sessions into. I create a new session for each client and store it in that catalog. The session has a folder structure like the following:
Captured/ - all captured files are here
Selects/ - I don't use this one
Output/ - where the output files and folders are placed
Trash/ - the heaven for less important files
When I archive the project I simply grab the [Project folder] and copy it to my backup storage device.
In Lightroom I have a catalog for each year or for each quarter. For example I had a "2016-Q4" catalog. There I keep all archived projects for Q4 (so far) and if I want, I can go back and work on the projects' files.
In Capture One Pro, the only similar functionality I found is to create a catalog ("2016-Q4") an in there to import existing sessions (importing the session file for each project). It creates a "Collection" which is something like a folder and you can browse your images, search by keywords, filter by rating, etc. However, when your files are not on the local computer, it is quite painful to work with the archives. If you want to use Capture One for your archives, you have to have a fast network connection to your backup devices. Otherwise the interface freezes quite often as it (probably) reads those big TIFF/PSD files which over network means it transfers every single byte from them as you click.
It simply works. I don't need to start or stop a tethering session. It automatically starts when a camera is plugged in. It recovers much easily when you happen to unplug your cable and plug it back in. It is way faster and more stable than Lightroom's tethering.
I have to mention an important note here: USB cable quality is a very very important thing. I thought USB cables are all the same, but they aren't. I'm not a cable guru, but I've seen "thin" and "thick" ones, so to say. The thicker ones have an extra screening around the cable. They work better for me. For those DIY-ers, here's the hack I did to keep my cable steady when shooting:
If you want to look more professional you can always buy the real one.
There were several cases when I had tethering problems with Capture One but I also found the solutions. One of them is you have to go in the settings and uncheck the Canon, Nikon, and Sony from the list of camera providers under the Capture tab. This is valid only if you use a DSLR. Sometimes the USB cable gets unplugged and plugging it in doesn't make the tethering work. I found that restarting Capture One with your USB cable unplugged and then plugging it back after the software loads fixes the issue. But compared to the experience I had with Lightroom tethering in Capture One works much smoothly and quickly.
I can't praise this functionality enough. It's a lifesaver when it comes to shooting from angles where you can't check your composition, especially when you shoot products straight down having your camera on a tripod. That's the second feature that made me like Capture One more.
Backup When Shooting
While Lightroom is able to store images both on camera's memory card and on the local hard drive, Capture One Pro can't do that. The reason behind this is Lightroom uses a hack to do so. In general, camera manufacturers provide means to store the files only on your hard drive when shooting tethered. Capture One works with the standard functionality, so this is the reason why files are stored only on your computer. If you need to have a live backup during the shoot you have to find your own solution. I am attaching an external hard drive and I run a small piece of software that copies the new files.
Image Adjustments While Shooting TetheredThe cool thing about Capture One is you can adjust the white balance, color, brightness, and contrast on your first image from a set, and every image following can have those applied automatically. This helps when you want to show the client how the final image will feel like as tonality. The software also has an option for displaying an overlay when you shoot for final products that need some specific composition. That could be adding text and other graphic elements over the image. A typical case is when shooting for a cover you have some design and composition constraints you have to pay attention to. Applying an overlay image can give you an idea if your composition is spot on.
Rating the Images
As I said I am trying to align Capture One Pro to my current Lightroom workflow, because this is what I'm used to. The next thing is to see if the client can go through the images and rate the ones they want to buy. This worked fine, although clients were frustrated when they rated an image and it disappeared.
In Lightroom, your filters are like "show me all images with rating > 2 stars." When you have a 3 star image, and you mark it with 4 stars it stays there. However, in Capture One you have a filter "show me images with exactly 3 stars." That's why when you rate an image with 4 stars it disappears from the filtered results. Anyway,
my clients I can get along with that.
This is an issue for me. While Capture One Pro provides lots of great tools for color correcting and color grading your images, it doesn't support DNG profiles but only ICC profiles. ColorChecker Passport comes with a software that creates DNG profiles. This means with Capture One Pro, I can only use my pricey Color Checker Passport for picking white balance. There are tools to create ICC profiles but they come with other pieces of hardware. ColorChecker Password is not one of them. The reason Capture One uses only ICC profiles is (quoting their customer support) "The vast majority of our professional customers and institutions prefer our option." Currently I use the provided ICC profiles that come with Capture One Pro.
Applying Adjustments Over Multiple Images
You may want to set the same adjustments to all images in a given set. By copying the adjustments of one image (Shift + Ctrl/Command + C) and pasting onto a list of selected images (Shift + Ctrl/Command + V) you copy all adjustments. If you need to copy only some of them you can go to the "Paste" panel and mark only those you need. This is similar to what I had in Lightroom.
See the icon I marked in red? When it's on you can apply adjustments and rating over multiple images. In the beginning it had me wondering why I could not apply rating changes to multiple images. So, you better have it on.
The client has selected several images for retouching. I need a way to differentiate between files that have been retouched from the non-retouched ones. The retouched files are in TIFF/PSD format. The presence of such file may assure me the image has been retouched. In Lightroom, it can group the raw and the retouched file together into a "stack." I can't find stacking in Capture One Pro. If I store the retouched file in the same folder where all raw files reside, I can easily miss to retouch some because I have to always check if every selected raw file has a double with a TIFF/PSD extension.
Too complex, too error prone, too lazy to do that. Any solution that visually keeps the retouched file and the original ones as different files in the same folder is too risky for me. Here's a better way:
- I list all highest rated images that have been color corrected.
- I select them all (Ctrl + A or Command + A), right click to choose "Export > Variants." It exports the selected files as TIFF files (in my case) and places them into the Output folder. All exported (now TIFF) files have no rating.
- I retouch the files and rate them with 5 stars one at a time.
- I continue retouching until no unrated TIFF files remain in the Output folder. You can easily check that by filtering by "None" rating and if your view becomes empty, all files have been processed. Simple and fool proof.
I miss a shortcut for editing a file in a default application. In Lightroom I press Ctrl/Command + E and it opens it in Photoshop. In Capture One I have to use right click and choose Edit > Open With > Photoshop (take notes, Phase One).
Again, I miss the Lightroom stacking functionality (*cough*, Phase One).
Presets / Recipes
As in Lightroom, Capture One Pro allows you to create presets for exporting. They call them "recipes" where you configure the output file type, output location, watermarking, and metadata. The cool thing is you can run several recipes at once while in Lightroom you could run one preset at a time.
When I first run several recipes on retouched files I got the following error:
After some wandering around I found I had to "Regenerate the previews" (*cough cough*). You can regenerate the previews of a single image by right clicking and choosing "Regenerate previews." However, when you select several images and use the right click again, it won't re-create the previews for all of them but only for the one you've right clicked over. Not very intuitive. You have to choose File > Regenerate Previews instead. After that's ready you can successfully export your files.
I watermark the images in my portfolio. In Capture One Pro, I found you can watermark your images with a text or an image but the controls are far less than Lightroom offered. When watermarking with text you should be aware if the image is dark or light and if the text will be visible or not. In Lightroom, I had an option for text shadows. I used a lighter text with darker shadows. In Capture One Pro I don't have that, so I had to use an image instead. And, yes, I'm too lazy to watermark my images in Photoshop. Why? Because commercial clients don't want watermarks while I use them for my portfolio. It's much easier to put watermarks during image export than applying it manually in Photoshop.
I can do my job both with Capture One Pro and Lightroom. I can use them interchangeably but I feel better if I use only one application. The biggest issue for me using Capture One Pro is browsing files that are over network (e.g. NAS device). Apart from that it's a great piece of software that can surely replace my Lightroom workflow. Old slippers are still more comfortable but I decided to get a new pair too.
I feel the same pain with LR tethering. Canon 5DS now uses USB3 and it's super buggy. I was blaming USB controller in my computer, so I replaced it. Not much have changed. I replaced half a dozen cables - same issues. I even have a Corning optical USB cable - $100 USB cable. This one, attached to an original Canon USB, gives me most reliable tethering.
I noticed one thing, if there are no cards in camera, tethering in LR works better. I might lose 2-3 exposures in a 300 shots session, but it is still less painful, than CF+Tether.
For the backup, I have a NAS with backup client on my desktop. It is configured to immediately sync new files in my photo library to a NAS drive, so it is transparent as automatic.
Thanks for sharing that information Serge!
I've never thought about having no card in the camea when shooting tethered. I hope this one helps someone who reads the comments here.
Curious to know what computer and OS your using? I have a 5Ds with 2015 MacBook Pro - tethering has been seamless (no disconnects, ever!) until I've updated the OS last week and now I'm getting issues whenever the camera is left to sleep
While we're waiting for Serge to answer, I want to share I had the same experience. Since OS X 10.8 and on tethering in Lightroom became worse (tried with different Canon cameras). As far as I know, Adobe blames Apple. Apple do not care. So I tried Capture One and it seems Adobe has to fix their software. It's probably because of their hacks (to keep files on the memory card) that OS upgrades mess up.
Mountain Lion is to blame here, apple messed with the USB stack to save power for laptop computers creating both problems in Lightroom and C1 with tethering reliability. The tether tools tether boost or any powered usb hub with BCS 1.5 (the ability to change phones or devices essentially) will work to increase the reliability of your connection.
Also run some of the minor updates - I think it was fixed in 10.8.3
Also any time you using power to write to two places (to a card and computer) in a very efficient system like a camera w/battery, you increase write time and the chance for failure. I would recommend against this. I know it feels like you have a back up.. but its a false sense of security.
The problem is the design of the tethering process I think. Why the computer has to save files while it can simply tell the camera "save the file and after that send me the file so I can do whatever I want". I don't know why it's not made the following way. The chance for failure when saving the file is the same when shooting non-tethered.
I guess it's manufacturer's SDK but why... I do not agree with LR's approach to hack into the tethering process as this is very error prone when manufacturers change camera interfaces and OS changes SDK... but again, why all cameras decided to implement their SDK this way?
They do it that way for speed and reliability. You're asking a lot to have a small, battery operated computer - your camera - to write to a card and a computer at the same time. That is probably one of the reasons tethering with LR has become unreliable.
Maybe I am missing the advantage of having in on the card? What is your reasoning here?
Also another good practice is to always use the Usb port on you macbook pro closest to the power supply. It will have the most reliable connection to any camera. Not all Usb ports are powered the same. This is the case on any computer.
Yes, that's what I always use for tethering.
It's backup. That's what I liked in that approach the most — writing both on camera and computer. Now I'm using an external hard drive with Capture One where it backs the shots up.
You can't have too many backups!
I am on the Windows platform. Current PC is a Z170-based, with Intel Alpen Ridge USB/Thunderbolt controller. I will try to tether to Mac. Good idea.
Did you try using a usb2 cable ? That could bring both devices down to usb 2 standard?
Well, cable still have to be USB3. I can plug it to USB2 header, so it will link as USB2. Also a good thing to try.
Lightroom is a terrible program for tethering. As in the article I have experienced exactly the same problems when a cable disconnects or the camera goes to sleep. Lightroom simply can't handle this and invariably has a lot of trouble trying to see the camera again.
After using C1 for a while there's no doubt that this is a far superior tethering application. Not only does it 'just work' but it also has a much better interface with many more advanced settings than LR.
The problem is I still use LR for cataloging to at this point in time i need both. In summary LR is good for file management (although very slow) and applying develop presets where C1 is best for capture in the studio, out in the field etc.
With this article I'm trying to tell Phase One to try to impove the part with cataloging, like browsing files on a NAS device.
If they implement stacking of the original and the retouched file, it will be priceless.
The likely will not implement the NAS functionality you are looking for. Capture One was never built to do that. This not in defense of them not being able to, more of an explanation why.
Catalogues generate preview files you can manuipulate when not connected to your NAS, if you have the catalogue living on your laptop you can work "offline" reconnect to your NAS when you are done with your edits and then process out from there. Should speed up your edits, but its a total bottleneck anytime you are reading and writing over a network. There are a lot of chances for data corruption.
Because its a non-destructive editor, they have chosen have the software write a bunch of little side car files .cos etc that are constantly being written and rewritten. This is a very efficient way to apply and copy settings, but because of it C1 is always writing files, so when its doing it over the network it slows everything down.
Also its always reading the image data and making/rendering new previews at the different percentages of zoom - so being able to read image data fast is hobbled again by your network.
The problem is I can't even browse my archives. If they are only raw files it freezes from time to time, but if they are retouched TIFF files the UI completely stops for several minutes. I can't view the "Output" folder at all. I don't need to edit the files there. I just need to browse my files.
It still needs to render the previews of those TIFFs which is a data intensive process. Unless your network is extremely fast and your NAS is too this is not surprising to me.
Both Lightroom and Capture One store the previews in their local disk cache. If you disconnect from the NAS device you can still browse the thumbnails.
With the NAS device connected Capture One doesn't work properly because it's intreface starts to hang and on OS X there's a beachball. This probably means they are not using a separate process thread to read that information but do this in the main process which makes the interface freeze. Lightroom also reads the file but does it in the background and their interface displays the old thumbnail for some time but you can still browse the files.
If I have to start tethering that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back, I am pretty sure.
What type of photography do you do?
Nothing anyone pays me enough to set up tethering. lol
One thing, that I will miss, if I go away from LR is a MIDI support through the midi2lr. I absolutely love my behringer bcf2000 and I can't imagine using the mouse to adjust the image parameters.
Interesting, I haven't heard about a MIDI controller for Lightroom.
Capture one is bringing midi support with the next update. I was just at the Standout Photography forum in LA this week and they were using a very high end midi control board to adjust color, saturation and luminance with track balls and rotating bezels. Every button and knob was programmable. Unfortunately I can't recall the name of the unit they were using but I imagine they will have support for more than just that one device.
Update: Found it! http://www.tangentwave.co.uk/product/element/
Well, $1,135.25 is quite a bit more expensive than BCF2000. Plus, it doesn't have motorized sliders, which is in my opinion is the best thing about MIDI. I love it, when I can actually see all my sliders positions, without looking at the screen.
If C1 bring up MIDI, it will definitely warrant a serious consideration for switching.
It's not officially supported. Some guys created a free bridge software, that translates midi commands to LR. Thy to youtube: "Lightroom BCF2000"
What is super cool about it - you can adjust several things simultaneously. Like changing exposure and shadows. It saves ton of time, when you don't have to adjust one thing, switch to another, then switch back, to factor in changes from the second adjustment.
BCF2000 is a piece of Lego. It can do whatever you want. Everything is customizable.
I would not use such a controller for Lightroom or Capture One as I have a series of equally exposed shots because in 99% of the time I work in a controlled environment. Maybe for PJ work or shooting in semi-automated mode, this is quite helpful.
However I'm thinking about using it for video work. It's so uncomfortable to cut or color grade using mouse/trackpad/graphics tablet. I've never thought about buying a MIDI controller because I was thinking all of them were those $XXXX(X)+ priced ones... This is quite affordable and I'll definitely think about it for video.
The motorized sliders are a nice touch. The Behringer at that price is pretty attractive. I am however always hesitant to buy there equipment. I used to work in a music store in Albuquerque that sold a lot of there gear and from my experience they're one of those companies that you either get a great copy or a really piss poor copy. Fortunately they've always been great about swapping out for another one.
I'm aware of their audio products quality and it's acceptable for most amateurs or budget semi-professionals. As midi is purely digital, not analog, it should be much easier to implement something of good quality.
I use the BCF2000 with LR. Love it. Huge timesaver in many ways. Particularly in event photography. For studio work, I agree that you don't really have to make all that many changes, but honestly, even in that situation it's a big help.
Lack of color correction with my ColorChecker is really what's prevented me from moving over to C1. I'm planning on buying an i1 Display Pro soon though for calibration in general which from my understanding will give me license to the i1 Profiler software that can create ICC profiles from the ColorChecker. Still not an ideal solution, but I'll probably give C1 another look when I get the i1 Display.
I feel ya. I tried various ways to convert DNG profiles to ICC without success.
Unless you have color critical projects (like catalog work or corporate portraits) it's an acceptable compromise to work with the white balance + the built-in ICC profiles. Human skin tones are in the ballpark with this approach. Not the best but sort of...
However, art photographers do not struggle with that :)
Yeah definitely, for my purposes I was doing product shoots where the color accuracy was quite important, so back to LR it was for me :(
I've tested C1 and Lightroom extensively for all kinds of cameras...what you get with one application, you give up with the other. Extremely frustrating especially when you consider the kind of money these companies are asking.
I the end I've stuck with Lightroom because it's most complete, plus access to my NAS from any computer/anywhere.
Did you have any problems with tethering in Lightroom?
All the time...Canon's, Nikon, etc...it was never acceptably reliable. I tried high end cables, etc...nothing..And never mind if the camera went to sleep...
These days I don't need it
From reading your article, it seems you find C1 more cumbersome ("obtuse" may be a better word based on your experience.) Yet you still recommend it over Lightroom? I've tried it more than a few times and always found it to be kludgy, from an interface to a workflow situation. (It does have some things that LR doesn't have, and if you dont have or use Photoshop, i can see where C1 would be a great replacement- but when using LR in conjunction with Photoshop, the workflow is speedy and efficient (minus a few minor gripes here and there), compared to C1)
Tethering has never been an issue either- you just have to manually turn it on ever time the camera is turned on, but not a big deal nor a hassle.
I'm using Capture One for just over a month. I decided to buy it for 3 reasons: tethering speed (and far less issues), live view (life saver when I had to photograph products for 3 days straight down with the camera high on a tripod), auto image adjustments on each next image when tethering.
All these are related to the live photoshoot. Lightroom doesn't work well for me with clients. I had issues with Capture One with the other side of the coin — retouching workflow and archiving. While I've managed to refine the retouching part and make it fool proof, working with archives and color correcting are the biggest issues for me so far.
I don't use their color management controls (except for the white balance tool and camera profiles). I'm not used to edit images in LR or C1. I just use them for tethering, color correction, and organizing my files.
I don't want to use both applications. I'm currently giving Capture One a longer trial hoping they would read this article and the comments and will do something about browsing files over network. As for camera profiles, I don't think they would support DNG in the future. Maybe X-Rite will update their software someday so they generate ICC profiles.
I'll be very happy if I can browse my network archives with Capture One. Let's see if they will do something about it in the next versions.
It's a shame that they wont support other formats, namely DNG, nor one of the industry standards, the Color Checker. With my camera now using WiFi, i have an ipad that lets the client see the images in real time, which they've been very happy with, over hovering over my laptop. (Plus i don't have a need to use a wired tether)
There's always been a camp that is devoted to LR and one that prefers C1. I've tried C1 and have come away every time hating pretty much everything about its workflow. But i'm glad it's working for you in yours. :)
DNG isn't an industry standard as such; it's a proprietary format. ICC on the other hand, is a long standing industry standard (ISO15076)
I think it's more their refusal to support DNG or any other standard other than ICC (makes it difficult to move from LR to CR1 if all your files are in DNG?) and their kludgy darth vader-esque interface.
I also think so. There's something to do with patents they don't want to pay for.
Unfortunately. So to use the widely used standard ICC profile we have to buy an expensive tool like i1 Display Pro...
Hey guys, i've seen tethering improvement in Lightroom with a little box Tether Tools makes, the Boost Core Controller. It connects inline between the computer and the camera and I believe it boosts the signal or regulates the power. Definitely helped. They also make another once called the Boost Pro. It's all up in the air with my new MBP and it's usb-C only ports. I have to make sure this setup still works.
It will be quite helpful if you share the results. Many users may benefit from that infomation.
I tried a powered USB hub for tethering but it didn't help.
I'm glad your solution worked for you. Looking forward to reading if it works with the new MBP once it lands.
Thanks. And I hear you on the frustration of losing lock with clients in the room. Me, too. It did help but it didn't cure it. I'll report back on the new MBP when I can.
I've been tethering to LR as long as they've included that ability and have never had any connection problems (ok, a few but they are extremely extremely rare). I use a 6 foot usb attached to a 10 foot extension, and the only issues i have is when the camera turns off and LR loses the connection. The tethertools box would be nice if you're running an extension longer than that where normally, you'll have connection failures, like a 25 foot or higher. With Canon now offering WiFi in their cameras, i've been connecting wirelessly using an iPad, which has been much much simpler and portable than by using a laptop.
I used to be like that before OS X 10.8. I'm glad it works for you. I suppose it's the cable that plays a huge role.